New York destination recommendations anyone?

[City Dweller]

The weather is promised to be great, albeit a little chilly, this week end
in New York. Anyone has a any recommendations where to fly from the New York
City area? I was thinking maybe Block Island or even further Northeast to
Martha's Vineyard?

If anyone has some suggestions I am all ears.

-- City Dweller

[Tony]

Don't overlook Nantucket Island. You'll need to get a cab into town.

If you fly to the P Town Airport on Cape Cod it's about a mile walk to
P Town itself: that's an interesting place to visit as well, and easy
walking. Rent a bike, ride on the paved bike paths that wind thru the
dunes and go down to the National Seashore.

Of the various choices in the area, P Town would be high on my list.

[Andrew Gideon]

City Dweller wrote:

> The weather is promised to be great, albeit a little chilly, this week end
> in New York. Anyone has a any recommendations where to fly from the New
> York City area? I was thinking maybe Block Island or even further
> Northeast to Martha's Vineyard?
>
> If anyone has some suggestions I am all ears.

In the years I've been flying, and given the frequency with which people
have recommended Block Island, it's remarkable but I've yet to reach it.
But people do speak highly of that trip.

The real answer depends upon what you want or like to do. I've often flown
to 26N simply because it's close and a 5 block walk to the beach. I like
beaches, esp. when its too cold for swimming.

Nantucket is among the first few places I took my wife and son together.
It's actually not especially stroller-friendly, but otherwise a nice place
to shop/window-shop. I also remember a little park/beach combination that
Alex really enjoyed.

We've also gone to Cape May a few times. That's not quite as "nice" as
Nantucket, but I also recall it being a little more stroller friendly.

But if you don't like walk around shopping towns and exploring, I'm not sure
either will appeal.

Lancaster has a great pilot shop on the field.

On Cape Cod, I've liked my trips to Chatam. You have to be careful there,
though, if you're not instrument rated. Pre-IR, I was once "trapped" there
for a few hours by this silly little layer of clouds that was being blown
off the water. It was practically nowhere but over the airport.

Something similar happened to me at Nantucket, come to think of it, but that
was post-IR; I just went in. That was the first time my wife was in
cottonballed IMC, but it didn't last too long.

There's an interesting little aviation museum at either Wildwood or
Millville (I'm getting them mixed up now, I think).

- Andrew

[City Dweller]

Great, Provincetown looks nice, thanks. A little too far out but manageable.

Thanks again.

-- CD


"Tony" > wrote in message
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> Don't overlook Nantucket Island. You'll need to get a cab into town.
>
> If you fly to the P Town Airport on Cape Cod it's about a mile walk to
> P Town itself: that's an interesting place to visit as well, and easy
> walking. Rent a bike, ride on the paved bike paths that wind thru the
> dunes and go down to the National Seashore.
>
> Of the various choices in the area, P Town would be high on my list.
>

[Matt]

"City Dweller" > wrote:
> The weather is promised to be great, albeit a little chilly, this week end
> in New York. Anyone has a any recommendations where to fly from the New
> York City area? I was thinking maybe Block Island or even further
> Northeast to Martha's Vineyard?
>
> If anyone has some suggestions I am all ears.

Interestingly enough, I am planning on flying down the Hudson River
tomorrow. I have never flown through the New York area in a light plane
and am looking forward to it. Any tips on navigating the VFR flyways? I am
not sure whether I should contact NY approach and get a code, or just
self-announce on the advisory frequency.

The coast of Maine is always a nice trip. There are a couple of FBOs at
Rockland (RKD) that will give you a fresh lobster with a fuel purchase. Not
sure of the quantity required. Too bad the foliage season is over.

Matt

[City Dweller]

I actually did the flight down the Hudson River just yesterday (for the 3rd
or 4th time already). The view of Manhattan at night is just magnificent .
My two passengers were speechless.

We have a VFR corridor over Hudson, so you don't need to talk to NY ATC. If
you are coming from the North, go under 1,500 ft when abeam Alpine Tower on
your right (shrortly after Tapanzee Bridge) and when over GW Bridge, go down
to around 900. Self-announce on 123.05. Stay to your right, remain over
water at all times, and watch for those helicopters, the criss-cross the
river all over the place. When approaching the Lady, go down to 600 and make
a few circles counter-clockwise. Try not to fly directly over Ellis Island.
On your way back up Manhattan, again keep right and over water.

-- CD


"Matt" > wrote in message
. ..
> "City Dweller" > wrote:
>> The weather is promised to be great, albeit a little chilly, this week
>> end in New York. Anyone has a any recommendations where to fly from the
>> New York City area? I was thinking maybe Block Island or even further
>> Northeast to Martha's Vineyard?
>>
>> If anyone has some suggestions I am all ears.
>
> Interestingly enough, I am planning on flying down the Hudson River
> tomorrow. I have never flown through the New York area in a light plane
> and am looking forward to it. Any tips on navigating the VFR flyways? I
> am not sure whether I should contact NY approach and get a code, or just
> self-announce on the advisory frequency.
>
> The coast of Maine is always a nice trip. There are a couple of FBOs at
> Rockland (RKD) that will give you a fresh lobster with a fuel purchase.
> Not sure of the quantity required. Too bad the foliage season is over.
>
> Matt
>
>
>

[Peter R.]

City Dweller > wrote:

> Anyone has a any recommendations where to fly from the New York
> City area? I was thinking maybe Block Island or even further Northeast to
> Martha's Vineyard?

The three islands (Block Island, Martha's Vineyard, and Nantucket) are all
excellent, very scenic destinations.

For something completely different you could also try Lake Placid (KLKP),
which is straight north up the Hudson River, then across the high peaks of
the Adirondack mountains. Downwind for runway 32 takes you right next to
the 1980 Olympic ski jumps.

--
Peter
























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[George Patterson]

City Dweller wrote:

> We have a VFR corridor over Hudson, so you don't need to talk to NY ATC. If
> you are coming from the North, go under 1,500 ft when abeam Alpine Tower on
> your right (shrortly after Tapanzee Bridge) and when over GW Bridge, go down
> to around 900.

If you aren't familiar with the area, drop down below 1500' where the river
begins to narrow down just south of the Tappan Zee bridge. You will also need to
be below 1100' well above the GWB. Make sure you're down that low when you pass
the northern tip of Manhattan island.

> Try not to fly directly over Ellis Island.

Do better than try. Stay over the water.

George Patterson
If a tank is out of ammunition, what you have is a sixty ton portable
radio.

[tom418]

If you're into bike riding (and have access to a folding bike) , try
Martha's Vineyard. They have a bike path accessable right at the airport,
which takes you into town. A great destination, IMHO.
"City Dweller" > wrote in message
...
> The weather is promised to be great, albeit a little chilly, this week end
> in New York. Anyone has a any recommendations where to fly from the New
York
> City area? I was thinking maybe Block Island or even further Northeast to
> Martha's Vineyard?
>
> If anyone has some suggestions I am all ears.
>
> -- City Dweller
>
>

[Andrew Gideon]

City Dweller wrote:

> We have a VFR corridor over Hudson, so you don't need to talk to NY ATC.

This is true. But if you do talk, you'll get RADAR coverage. With all
those helicopters in the area, that's not a bad idea.

But perhaps more significant: You get more options. For example, when I did
this I requested overflight of central park, down the east river, and then
back up the Hudson.

*That* was a nice trip. I've yet to forgive my passenger for his lack of
knowledge of his camera. He took pictures, but few came out well. You can
see these at:

http://gideon.org/andrew/PhotoAlbum/Flying/Hudson/3/

- Andrew

[City Dweller]

Interesting. So you contacted NY Approach and they cleared you into Class
Bravo then?


"Andrew Gideon" > wrote in message
online.com...
> City Dweller wrote:
>
>> We have a VFR corridor over Hudson, so you don't need to talk to NY ATC.
>
> This is true. But if you do talk, you'll get RADAR coverage. With all
> those helicopters in the area, that's not a bad idea.
>
> But perhaps more significant: You get more options. For example, when I
> did
> this I requested overflight of central park, down the east river, and then
> back up the Hudson.
>
> *That* was a nice trip. I've yet to forgive my passenger for his lack of
> knowledge of his camera. He took pictures, but few came out well. You
> can
> see these at:
>
> http://gideon.org/andrew/PhotoAlbum/Flying/Hudson/3/
>
> - Andrew
>

[Judah]

Andrew Gideon > wrote in
online.com:

>
> There's an interesting little aviation museum at either Wildwood or
> Millville (I'm getting them mixed up now, I think).
>
> - Andrew
>

It's at Wildwood. I haven't been there in a few years, but they used to
have a Mig you could sit in, and a Blackhawk or Cobra helicopter, among
other things. Plus, admission was by voluntary donation...

[Tony]

I don't know if the shows are still going on, but the Old Reinbeck
(sp?) Aerodrome up near Red Hook has interesting WW I airshows. Or used
to, it's been a bunch of years since I had been there.

There's also an airport near Penn's Cave in east central PA: a great
afternoon trip.

[zatatime]

On 19 Nov 2005 19:03:38 -0800, "Tony" > wrote:

>There's also an airport near Penn's Cave in east central PA: a great
>afternoon trip.


Penn's Cave is a blast! I did that for the 4th of July. Although if
Provincetown is too far for him, this will be too.

z

[George Patterson]

Tony wrote:
> I don't know if the shows are still going on, but the Old Reinbeck
> (sp?) Aerodrome up near Red Hook has interesting WW I airshows.

They don't fly during the winter, so you'll have to wait a bit. Here's the URL.
http://www.oldrhinebeck.org

George Patterson
If a tank is out of ammunition, what you have is a sixty ton portable
radio.

[City Dweller]

Thanks everyone who responded. I took Tony's suggestion and flew to
Provincetown (PVC) with my girlfriend. It's about 200 nm from Caldwell, and
we had a healthy 25nm tailwind all the way, so it only took us less than 1.5
hr to get there.

The aiport is small, with only a handful of aircraft on the field and no
people at all, yet we saw not one, not two, but three TSA officers in the
main terminal, and a Provincetown policeman to boot. For the lack of work,
the awesome foursome were playing cards at the baggage check table. Now
that's not something you don't see every day. I wanted to take a picture of
that and then title it "Our Tax Dollars At Work" but the FBO attendant said
taking pictures in the terminal was prohibited.

Provincetown, MA is a lovely little town, but unfortunately it is already
beginning to shut down for the winter season, so most of the stores,
galleries and restaurants were closed. We will certainly go back when it's
warm again, the beaches and dunes sure look great.

It's just amazing how mobile you become with a pilot license in your pocket.
What took us 1.5 hours by air would take no less than 6 hours by car, I was
sure to check with MapQuest.

Thanks again to those who responded. Nantucket, Lake Placid and other ideas
all look great and I will try them all soon!

-- City Dweller


"City Dweller" > wrote in message
...
> The weather is promised to be great, albeit a little chilly, this week end
> in New York. Anyone has a any recommendations where to fly from the New
> York City area? I was thinking maybe Block Island or even further
> Northeast to Martha's Vineyard?
>
> If anyone has some suggestions I am all ears.
>
> -- City Dweller
>

[Tony]

Sorry for the bad suggestion, but give it a try again, it's worth it.

[Tony]

Sorry for the bad suggestion, but give it a try again, it's worth it.

[City Dweller]

It was not a bad suggestion at all, we loved it there, and the flight over
the bay to Cape Cod was stunningly beautiful..

-- CD


"Tony" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Sorry for the bad suggestion, but give it a try again, it's worth it.
>

[Andrew Gideon]

City Dweller wrote:

> Interesting. So you contacted NY Approach and they cleared you into Class
> Bravo then?

In fact, I was speaking to TEB dealing with a potential problem (I wanted to
check my xponder). Once that was solved, the controller asked for my
intentions. I'd been planning to fly the exclusion zone, but since he
asked....

He passed me over to LGA tower for the actual trip. Doing it again, I'm not
sure what I'd do...choices choices...TRACON after departing CDW? Contact
TEB to transit their airspace? Just contact LGA from the Hudson?

I'm sure any and all would work.

I'd probably contact TRACON and pass north of TEB just because I think that
would yield the longer/better view.

- Andrew

[Andrew Gideon]

City Dweller wrote:

> It's just amazing how mobile you become with a pilot license in your
> pocket. What took us 1.5 hours by air would take no less than 6 hours by
> car, I was sure to check with MapQuest.

I love mentioned to people that I've taken son and wife to Nantucket and
Cape May for lunch (on different days! {8^). It's a quick and effective
way to present a benefit of aviation to a non-aviator.

Amusingly enough, this is more dramatic than having weekended or vacationed
somewhere.

- Andrew

[Tony]

Andrew, did you go on to tell the people those were $100 hamburgers?

And worth every cent?

[Andrew Gideon]

Tony wrote:

> Andrew, did you go on to tell the people those were $100 hamburgers?

I'm not sure what you mean. That's an expression that wouldn't mean much to
a non-aviator, so the literal answer to your question is "no". But I've
the feeling you don't mean this literally.

> And worth every cent?

As far as I can recall, price never entered those discussions. My memory
isn't perfect, though, so it may have arisen in some cases.

- Andrew