Building an experimental? Learn about torsional vibration issues!

[H_Zwakenberg]

Hi Group,

if you're building your own plane AND you're thinking of installing
anything but a direct drive engine prop/engine system (i.e. a redrive,
drive train, whatever), I urge you to read on:

Donald P. Hessenaur - an engineer who worked at companies like Bede,
RotorWay, Avian and others - wrote a paper about 'Propeller Drive
Systems and Torsional Vibration'. This paper influenced my thinking
about what engine/prop choices I have for my RJ.03 IBIS homebuilt
aircraft project in a major way.

After finding this information on the internet, I reckoned this
document deserves a wider audience. I decided to brush up the
formatting and take out numerous spelling errors, presumably caused by
some OCR process. Other than that, I did _not_ edit the document in any
other way.

Go to my IBIS homebuilt aircraft project website -
http://ibis.experimentals.de/ - go to the dowload section where you'll
be able to download "Propeller Drive Systems and Torsional Vibration".
Sorry, no direct download link here, due to some intermittent
deep-linking issues with my ISP.

Download it, read it, study it. Be informed! For my canard project,
I've decided to go for a direct drive solution.

cheers,

Hans
_____________________________
My homebuilt aircraft project
http://ibis.experimentals.de/

[Morgans]

"H_Zwakenberg" > wrote

> go to the dowload section where you'll

So, you fixed spelling errors, like you did in this line? I hope not! ;-)
<g>
--
Jim in NC

[Bret Ludwig]

H_Zwakenberg wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> if you're building your own plane AND you're thinking of installing
> anything but a direct drive engine prop/engine system (i.e. a redrive,
> drive train, whatever), I urge you to read on:
>
> Donald P. Hessenaur - an engineer who worked at companies like Bede,
> RotorWay, Avian and others - wrote a paper about 'Propeller Drive
> Systems and Torsional Vibration'. This paper influenced my thinking
> about what engine/prop choices I have for my RJ.03 IBIS homebuilt
> aircraft project in a major way.
<<snip>>
>
> Download it, read it, study it. Be informed! For my canard project,
> I've decided to go for a direct drive solution.


If you want the "proven solution" buy a direct drive air cooled
aircraft engine with its lawn tractor ignition and induction-attached
to a production aluminum or tube-and-rag airframe.

If you want to experiment, why experiment with unconventional airframe
designs when airframes are way ahead of propulsion systems in this
market? We have a conucopia of flying airframe designs to suit most all
buyers but relatively few powerplant choices with any substantial
demonstrated success rates.

In another few years,European autoderivative and other diesels will
kill the LyCon export business completely, and third parties will be
undercutting Lycoming on parts so badly that Lycoming is probably going
to die. The Europeans will probably continue the PFM tradition of not
selling to homebuilders. As far as I am concerned there are only two
possible powerplants for homebuilts, autoderivative engines with
US-based parts support, and the P&WC PT-6 series of turboprops. The
Allison 250 I tend to discount because the main versions available tend
to be helo variants and making them work in a fixed wing aircraft
requires what Soloy did-and Soloy is not in the homebuilt business
either. The 331 Garrett and the J-69/Turbomeca centrifugal flow
turbojet (Marbore??) are too loud to be allowed on civilian ramps as
far as I am concerned.

Make no mistake, I will shed no tears at the boarded up windows at 651
Oliver Street.

[Morgans]

"Bashir Salamati" > wrote
>
> He was polite enough to post in your language. Shouldn't you use his
> when flaming him for spelling errors?
>
> Vielen Dank, Herr Zwakenberg. Herr Morgans ist ein Idiot, ignorieren
> ihn bitte.

I figured someone wouldn't get it.

Bashir, you need to chill, then read up on "emoticans." Notice, I put a
wink, and a grin, double, just to make sure nobody missed it.

Humor! Get it? If not, get a life!
--
Jim in NC

[Morgans]

> > Bashir, you need to chill, then read up on "emoticans."
> sp?

I think that is the right spelling; I think it is a made-up word, for
e-mails, and such.

They are the little smile faces:-) winks;-) and grins<g> and surprise:-o and
other ones I don't remember.
--
Jim in NC

[alexy]

"Morgans" > wrote:

>
>> > Bashir, you need to chill, then read up on "emoticans."
>> sp?
>
>I think that is the right spelling;
"emoticons", I believe. And it gets 5 million google hits versus 4
thousand for the spelling with "a", not that usage on the web is a
very good indicator of good spelling!

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alexy wrote:
> "Morgans" > wrote:
>
> >
> >> > Bashir, you need to chill, then read up on "emoticans."
> >> sp?
> >
> >I think that is the right spelling;
> "emoticons", I believe. And it gets 5 million google hits versus 4
> thousand for the spelling with "a", not that usage on the web is a
> very good indicator of good spelling!
>
> --
> Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

Don't you guiys know that one is required to mispel at least one word
in a spelling flame?

--

FF

[alexy]

"karel" > wrote:

>
> wrote in message
oups.com...
>>
>> alexy wrote:
>>> "Morgans" > wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >> > Bashir, you need to chill, then read up on "emoticans."
>>> >> sp?
>>> >
>>> >I think that is the right spelling;
>>> "emoticons", I believe. And it gets 5 million google hits versus 4
>>> thousand for the spelling with "a", not that usage on the web is a
>>> very good indicator of good spelling!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked
>>> infrequently.
>>
>> Don't you guiys know that one is required to mispel at least one word
>> in a spelling flame?
>Is that your reason for making 3 errors in a single phrase? }:-)
>KA
>
I assumed sew.
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