Beginning IFR book?

[John T]

Any suggestions for a book on the beginning IFR student? My wife wants
some Xmas gift ideas under $50 (and I could really use a new cordless
drill or other tools at $200 or more...;) )
I'm not sure if I'll go after the IFR rating, but I'd like to learn
about it for sure.

Preferably something from sporty's, so she can order it easily.

John

[George Patterson]

John T wrote:
> Any suggestions for a book on the beginning IFR student?

Well, it's not exactly an instruction book, but I recommend Rod Machado's
"Instrument Pilot's Survival Manual." $34.95 at
http://www.rodmachado.com/Product/Books/books.htm

I think Sporty's has it too.

George Patterson
We don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we stop
playing.

[john smith]

> Any suggestions for a book on the beginning IFR student? My wife wants
> some Xmas gift ideas under $50 (and I could really use a new cordless
> drill or other tools at $200 or more...;) )
> I'm not sure if I'll go after the IFR rating, but I'd like to learn
> about it for sure.
> Preferably something from sporty's, so she can order it easily.

IFR: A Structured Approach by John C Eckalbar
ISBN:0-9616544-5-7
Library of Congress Card Number: 2003091541
SPORTY'S: M127A $34.95

Rod Machado's Instrument Pilot's Survival Manual
http://www.rodmachado.com/Product/Books/books.htm
$34.95

[zatatime]

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:22:45 -0600, John T >
wrote:

>Any suggestions for a book on the beginning IFR student? My wife wants
>some Xmas gift ideas under $50 (and I could really use a new cordless
>drill or other tools at $200 or more...;) )
>I'm not sure if I'll go after the IFR rating, but I'd like to learn
>about it for sure.
>
>Preferably something from sporty's, so she can order it easily.
>
>John

Not sure if it's still in print but The Instrument Flight Training
Manual by Dogan was really good when I was getting my ticket.

HTH
z

[Longworth]

John,
I highly recommend this book by Sollman and Harris

Mastering Instrument Flying
Item Number: M279A
Price: $34.95

Bob Gardner's "The Complete Advanced Pilot" is also another great
'complete' instrument training book.

Eckalbar's "IFR: A Structured Approach" is an excellent book but
IMHO, S&H's book is a better book to start.

Rod Machado's Instrument Pilot's survival manual is also a good book
but not as structured and complete as S&H and Gardner's books.

I use this website:

www.campusi.com to search for best prices on books both new and used.

Hai Longworth

[John T]

Thanks for the suggestions so far. I do have the Rod Machado book, but
its not really a nuts and bolts book, as people have pointed out in a
earlier thread, but a good supplemental. I also have "IFR for VFR pilots".

John

[Matt Whiting]

John T wrote:

> Any suggestions for a book on the beginning IFR student? My wife wants
> some Xmas gift ideas under $50 (and I could really use a new cordless
> drill or other tools at $200 or more...;) )
> I'm not sure if I'll go after the IFR rating, but I'd like to learn
> about it for sure.
>
> Preferably something from sporty's, so she can order it easily.
>
> John
>

I don't know if Sporty's carries this, but Amazon does. I like the PIC
book by Peter Dogan as well as any for a beginner. I've bought and read
several other more "advanced" books since, but I still go back to that
one for a refresher now and then. I have the 1st edition and just
bought the most recent (3rd edition I think) as I wanted the sections on
GPS. I'll admit to being disappointed in the newly added sections. The
new authors don't have Dogan's knack for explaining things thoroughly
yet concisely. However, other than a weak section on GPS, the book
covers the basics very well in my opinion. And the cost is around $30
bucks so it meets your under $50 criterion.


Matt

[Bruce E Butts]

In addition to the Machado book and the Dogan book, I have The
Instrument Flight Manual by Kershner. I found all three of them useful
and helpful.

Bruce.

John T wrote:
> Any suggestions for a book on the beginning IFR student? My wife wants
> some Xmas gift ideas under $50 (and I could really use a new cordless
> drill or other tools at $200 or more...;) )
> I'm not sure if I'll go after the IFR rating, but I'd like to learn
> about it for sure.
>
> Preferably something from sporty's, so she can order it easily.
>
> John
>

[Jim Burns]

> Not sure if it's still in print but The Instrument Flight Training
> Manual by Dogan was really good when I was getting my ticket.
>
> HTH

In my opinion, Dogan's book is one of the best. It was an may still be the
primary text for the 10 Day Instrument Rating Courses, and I've personally
used it as the primary text for several instrument ground schools. It gives
real world scenarios at the beginning of each chapter that pull the student
into the meat of the subject in a way that he understands.

My requirements for instrument ground instruction are that the student have
3 different text books. The FAA Instrument Flying Handbook, not solely
written by the FAA, many of the authors you will see listed here have
contributed, making it much easier to read than previous versions. The
second is Dogan's Instrument Flight Training Manual, this was used for
homework reading and class discussions. The third was Gleim's Instrument
Course, which we followed after lectures and demonstrations to prepare the
student for the knowledge exam. I also strongly encouraged the students to
find another text from an author that they personally found easy to read and
understandable. This was used to re-confirm what was taught in class, bring
new points of view to different subjects, and to give the student an
additional source of reference in areas where the other text may have fallen
short. Instrument students should already own a copy of the FAR/AIM. The
AIM will be a constant reference during your instrument training.

Bob Gardner's The Complete Advanced Pilot is a great book that can also be
used as a instrument students primary text. It reads well, is easy to
follow, and is very comprehensive. Many of my students have chosen Bob's
book as their personal reference. Bob is a real "one of us", often in the
news groups helping students and pilots answer questions. His books read
from the point of view of another pilot, drawing on his real life experience
and real life situations. You will find non of the lofty "man on high" or
know it all attitudes that some authors inflict on us.

Bill Kershner's The Advanced Pilots Flight Manual is another great book, and
with Bills background in engineering, he places extra emphasis on the
mechanics and math behind instrument flight.

Eckalbar's book, IFR: A Structured Approach, is written from a multi engine
pilots point of view, and primarily stresses the pitch and performance style
of instrument flying. It's a great book for an advanced pilot, or for a
pilot who, with the assistance of his CFII, want to develop a very
structured method of instrument flying. My opinion is that this is a great
book for continued training after you've mastered the basic instrument
skills. It's one of my favorites to grab off the shelf and re-read.

Sample many, buy the books that you enjoy reading.

Jim

[abripl]

There are some nice IFR dvd's from King or Sporty's.

That reminds me, I am through with some dvd's. If somebody wants the
following you can have it for $2 postage and packing (USA).

King: IFR with cofindence
Sporty's: Flight Review
King: The complete airspace review
King: Communications
King VFR regulations refresher
(the above 3 are part of flight review)

But first contact me at http://www.abri.com/sq2000/emailpers.html to
check what I got left.

[zatatime]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:38:56 -0800, "Jim Burns"
> wrote:

>My requirements for instrument ground instruction are that the student have
>3 different text books. The FAA Instrument Flying Handbook, not solely
>written by the FAA, many of the authors you will see listed here have
>contributed, making it much easier to read than previous versions. The
>second is Dogan's Instrument Flight Training Manual, this was used for
>homework reading and class discussions. The third was Gleim's Instrument
>Course, which we followed after lectures and demonstrations to prepare the
>student for the knowledge exam.


Funny to read someone else teaches Exactly how I was taught. This
method works from my point of view.

Thanks for sharing.
z