Re: Jobs for pilots wtih CP + IR?

[Rachel]

Mark Hansen wrote:
> I was wondering how difficult it is to find work as a pilot
> if you have a commercial certificate and instrument rating,
> but not a lot of hours.
>
> I'm assuming most companies require minimums in the neighborhood
> of 1,500 hours. Are there jobs available for CPs that have in the
> range of 200-500 hours?
>
> Where would one look?
>
> Thanks,

I flew for a traffic reporting company when I had about 300 hours. It
was a part time thing, when I wasn't instructing. I'm not sure that you
can make a living as a low time commercial pilot, even as a CFI.

I do know of some people who got right seat jobs for Part 91 operators.
You just have to know people.

[Mark Hansen]

On 12/8/2005 14:52, Rachel wrote:

> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> I was wondering how difficult it is to find work as a pilot
>> if you have a commercial certificate and instrument rating,
>> but not a lot of hours.
>>
>> I'm assuming most companies require minimums in the neighborhood
>> of 1,500 hours. Are there jobs available for CPs that have in the
>> range of 200-500 hours?
>>
>> Where would one look?
>>
>> Thanks,
>
> I flew for a traffic reporting company when I had about 300 hours. It
> was a part time thing, when I wasn't instructing. I'm not sure that you
> can make a living as a low time commercial pilot, even as a CFI.

I Don't need to make a living at it. I Don't even need to get paid ;-)

>
> I do know of some people who got right seat jobs for Part 91 operators.
> You just have to know people.

Thanks,


--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Sacramento, CA

[Rachel]

Mark Hansen wrote:

>>
>> I flew for a traffic reporting company when I had about 300 hours. It
>> was a part time thing, when I wasn't instructing. I'm not sure that
>> you can make a living as a low time commercial pilot, even as a CFI.
>
>
> I Don't need to make a living at it. I Don't even need to get paid ;-)

Is flight instructing not an option? What's the ultimate goal?

[Robert M. Gary]

I'd have to double check part 135 but I believe you can serve as SIC
for 135 IFR w/o any minimum number of hours as well.

-Robert

[Robert M. Gary]

The "ultimate goal" is always the same. "Two chicks at the same time".
The question is, other than that, what is the ultimate goal. :)
(From "Office Space")

-Robert

[Andrew Gideon]

Robert M. Gary wrote:

> "Two chicks at the same time".


That's a lot of work for the hen.

- Andrew

[Jim Burns]

After reading your "ultimate goal" response post, I thought the below said
"I'd have to double chick park 135"!!
Thanks for the laugh!! :)
Jim

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I'd have to double check part 135 but I believe you can serve as SIC
> for 135 IFR w/o any minimum number of hours as well.
>
> -Robert
>

[Mark Hansen]

On 12/8/2005 15:21, Rachel wrote:

> Mark Hansen wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I flew for a traffic reporting company when I had about 300 hours. It
>>> was a part time thing, when I wasn't instructing. I'm not sure that
>>> you can make a living as a low time commercial pilot, even as a CFI.
>>
>>
>> I Don't need to make a living at it. I Don't even need to get paid ;-)
>
> Is flight instructing not an option? What's the ultimate goal?

I don't really want to instruct, but I haven't thrown the idea out
just yet.

Given what I could expect to earn (if I were able to find a
paying pilot job today) I couldn't afford to leave my current
job (I'm a computer software architect), so I'm looking for a
way I can build hours.

Eventually, I would like to get a paid pilot position doing
non-ATP type flights.

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Sacramento, CA

[Rachel]

Mark Hansen wrote:
> On 12/8/2005 15:21, Rachel wrote:

<snip>

> I don't really want to instruct, but I haven't thrown the idea out
> just yet.

I'd give it a try (maybe a few hours toward your CFI) before you throw
it out. I never wanted to get my CFI - I'm not a people person, and
frankly, the responsibility scared me to death. I really only did it
because I was in college and had the time and opportunity and
inclination to do it. Of course, when I needed a summer job, it made a
great fall back job, and as it turned out, I love instructing. I'm just
sorry that I can't find a part time job doing it. So don't rule it out.

> Given what I could expect to earn (if I were able to find a
> paying pilot job today) I couldn't afford to leave my current
> job (I'm a computer software architect), so I'm looking for a
> way I can build hours.

And that is why I'm happily pushing paper as a non-wrenching A&P while
most of my friends are living 8 to an apartment and flying CRJ's. Maybe
I don't have a severe enough case of the flying disease, I don't know...

> Eventually, I would like to get a paid pilot position doing
> non-ATP type flights.

Non-ATP as in 135/91 stuff? There are people who do this...I have no
idea where they get the opportunity, but it does happen. You really
have to know people. I've fallen into random things, sightseeing tours,
the traffic gig I mentioned, but so far, only one person has offered me
flight time in the right seat of anything I couldn't fly on my own.

[Robert M. Gary]

You don't work for Agilent by chance do you. :)

[Mark Hansen]

On 12/9/2005 10:08, Robert M. Gary wrote:

> You don't work for Agilent by chance do you. :)
>

No. I work for Unify. It's a pretty small company (60+
employees world-wide). Great job, though.

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Sacramento, CA

[Robert M. Gary]

I know Unify very well. I guess you get good parking for Kings games. I
have two ex-Unify guys on either side of my office. Small world.

-Robert

[Mark Hansen]

On 12/9/2005 10:45, Robert M. Gary wrote:

> I know Unify very well. I guess you get good parking for Kings games. I
> have two ex-Unify guys on either side of my office. Small world.
>
> -Robert
>

Well, given that I've been here for so long, I probably know them ;-)

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Sacramento, CA