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John S. Shinal
December 9th 05, 05:20 PM
It's been in the news a bit lately, and they just made a few
flybys of the site using a Hornet :

http://www.newsobserver.com/159/story/375989.html

Is sending a fast jet on a visual pass through a high
birdstrike area all that useful as a survey tool ? Wouldn't an offset
pass using a TARPS pod or something similar be a little more safe and
provide better data ?


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sfb
December 9th 05, 06:25 PM
The locals have been fighting this one tooth and nail for years. Any
reasonable test that simulated the real thing would just generate
another round of lawsuits.

"John S. Shinal" > wrote in
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> It's been in the news a bit lately, and they just made a few
> flybys of the site using a Hornet :
>
> http://www.newsobserver.com/159/story/375989.html
>
> Is sending a fast jet on a visual pass through a high
> birdstrike area all that useful as a survey tool ? Wouldn't an offset
> pass using a TARPS pod or something similar be a little more safe and
> provide better data ?
>
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Kevin Brooks
December 9th 05, 07:38 PM
"John S. Shinal" > wrote in message
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> It's been in the news a bit lately, and they just made a few
> flybys of the site using a Hornet :
>
> http://www.newsobserver.com/159/story/375989.html
>
> Is sending a fast jet on a visual pass through a high
> birdstrike area all that useful as a survey tool ? Wouldn't an offset
> pass using a TARPS pod or something similar be a little more safe and
> provide better data ?

You are using the term "survey" literally, as if this was a geodetic survey
of some sort. Instead the goal of these passes was apparently to closely
replicate, for the benefit of ground observation and (likely) noise level
monitoring instruments, the kind of air patterns that would be flown by USN
aircraft if one of these sites were selected for use to replace Fentress. So
how would a TARPS pod enter into the equation?

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John S. Shinal
December 9th 05, 09:51 PM
"Kevin Brooks" wrote:

>You are using the term "survey" literally, as if this was a geodetic survey
>of some sort.

I meant it as being a survey of bird distribution/density and
the risk it might pose to aircraft. I was only intrigued by the
seemingly risky birdstrike situation.

> Instead the goal of these passes was apparently to closely
>replicate, for the benefit of ground observation and (likely) noise level
>monitoring instruments, the kind of air patterns that would be flown by USN
>aircraft if one of these sites were selected for use to replace Fentress.

I really hadn't considered the noise factor for that flyby
other than how the birds might react (sudden flock getting airborne,
etc). The flightpath planning aspect is a good point, and thanks.


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