Aviation Business Idea

[Jay Honeck]

Mary had this brainstorm the other day; I present it here for your
opinion...

Every Harley dealer in America seems to have their own custom-designed
T-shirt. Usually it's got the Harley-Davidson logo, combined with the local
dealer's name, and some recognizable symbol. Our local Harley shop has the
old State Capitol on his (the most historic and recognizable symbol of Iowa
City), for example.

Many (most?) Harley owners seem to collect these shirts. Wherever they
visit, (and we've had Harley rider guests who have done this), they make a
bee-line to the local dealer, to buy their shirt. It's kind of a neat
tradition.

Why not do something similar at airports? If each FBO had a snazzy T-shirt
that was specific and unique to *their* FBO, and their location, would you
not buy it? I know I would.

Mary has often remarked about how cold and stand-off-ish so many FBOs are
(with some major exceptions, of course), and how it would be great to be
able to purchase souvenirs from local airports along our many cross-country
flights. This T-shirt idea would be slick, because (a) it would fill a
perceived need, (b) it wouldn't represent much of an investment from always
cash-strapped FBOs, and (c) there are tens of thousands of airports, all
over the country.

Anyone out there own a T-shirt shop? Could not, say, the Wizard of Draws
be employed creating unique designs for each airport?

Does this dog hunt?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jose]

> Why not do something similar at airports? If each FBO had a snazzy T-shirt

If it were a polo shirt, =with= a pocket, and a nice design, I might be
interested (though not in collecting, just in getting a few).

Jose
--
You can choose whom to befriend, but you cannot choose whom to love.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Rachel]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> Mary had this brainstorm the other day; I present it here for your
> opinion...
>
> Every Harley dealer in America seems to have their own custom-designed
> T-shirt. Usually it's got the Harley-Davidson logo, combined with the local
> dealer's name, and some recognizable symbol. Our local Harley shop has the
> old State Capitol on his (the most historic and recognizable symbol of Iowa
> City), for example.
>
> Many (most?) Harley owners seem to collect these shirts. Wherever they
> visit, (and we've had Harley rider guests who have done this), they make a
> bee-line to the local dealer, to buy their shirt. It's kind of a neat
> tradition.
>
> Why not do something similar at airports? If each FBO had a snazzy T-shirt
> that was specific and unique to *their* FBO, and their location, would you
> not buy it? I know I would.
>
> Mary has often remarked about how cold and stand-off-ish so many FBOs are
> (with some major exceptions, of course), and how it would be great to be
> able to purchase souvenirs from local airports along our many cross-country
> flights. This T-shirt idea would be slick, because (a) it would fill a
> perceived need, (b) it wouldn't represent much of an investment from always
> cash-strapped FBOs, and (c) there are tens of thousands of airports, all
> over the country.
>
> Anyone out there own a T-shirt shop? Could not, say, the Wizard of Draws
> be employed creating unique designs for each airport?
>
> Does this dog hunt?

I don't even wear T-shirts, and I'd buy one from an FBO. I've had to
make myself happy with business cards so far. :-) I love my collection
of FBO business cards.

[Stubby]

Jose wrote:
>> Why not do something similar at airports? If each FBO had a snazzy
>> T-shirt
>
>
> If it were a polo shirt, =with= a pocket, and a nice design, I might be
> interested (though not in collecting, just in getting a few).

Yes, a breast pocket is required for a pen.

[JohnH]

> Anyone out there own a T-shirt shop? Could not, say, the Wizard of
> Draws be employed creating unique designs for each airport?

You can have your own online T-shirt shop in about 3 minutes.

http://www.cafepress.com

All they need is your logo, they'll do the rest.

[Jim Burns]

When ever I visit a gift shop, either at a FBO or at an aviation museum, the
only things I buy are either hats or shirts. So, yes, I would probably buy
a shirt, but it would have to have a pocket, and it would have to be more
than a t-shirt. In fact, the last shirt I bought was a denim shirt with an
embroidered logo from the Octave Chanute Air Museum at Rantoul, IL.

Jim



"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:EZFmf.394649$084.97654@attbi_s22...
> Mary had this brainstorm the other day; I present it here for your
> opinion...
>
> Every Harley dealer in America seems to have their own custom-designed
> T-shirt. Usually it's got the Harley-Davidson logo, combined with the
local
> dealer's name, and some recognizable symbol. Our local Harley shop has
the
> old State Capitol on his (the most historic and recognizable symbol of
Iowa
> City), for example.
>
> Many (most?) Harley owners seem to collect these shirts. Wherever they
> visit, (and we've had Harley rider guests who have done this), they make a
> bee-line to the local dealer, to buy their shirt. It's kind of a neat
> tradition.
>
> Why not do something similar at airports? If each FBO had a snazzy
T-shirt
> that was specific and unique to *their* FBO, and their location, would you
> not buy it? I know I would.
>
> Mary has often remarked about how cold and stand-off-ish so many FBOs are
> (with some major exceptions, of course), and how it would be great to be
> able to purchase souvenirs from local airports along our many
cross-country
> flights. This T-shirt idea would be slick, because (a) it would fill a
> perceived need, (b) it wouldn't represent much of an investment from
always
> cash-strapped FBOs, and (c) there are tens of thousands of airports, all
> over the country.
>
> Anyone out there own a T-shirt shop? Could not, say, the Wizard of Draws
> be employed creating unique designs for each airport?
>
> Does this dog hunt?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Larry Dighera]

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:26:28 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote in
<EZFmf.394649$084.97654@attbi_s22>::

>Does this dog hunt?

It sounds like a profitable idea to me.

The Big Bear airport in California (Elevation: 6,748 ft) has several
tee shirts in various colors and sizes in their glass counter where
you pay your landing fee. The shirt has some reference to the fact
that their airport is a "mile high" and the name of the airport. It's
a good souvenir, reasonably priced, and good quality.

Give my friend Jerry Grossberg a call to discuss product development:
719 487 0210 or 719-487-8376. Tell him I sent you, and he'll give you
a deal.

There are lots of ideas here:
http://www.easycart.net/WomenFlyInc./Wardrobe_Essentials.html
http://www.easycart.net/WomenFlyInc./Whats_New.html

[nrp]

I agree - has to have a pocket.

[Jim Macklin]

I like a flapped or buttoned pocket so stuff doesn't fall
out and big enough to hold a std size wiz-wheel.


"nrp" > wrote in message
oups.com...
|I agree - has to have a pocket.
|

[[email protected]]

"Jim Burns" > wrote:
> yes, I would probably buy a shirt, but it would have
> to have a pocket, and it would have to be more
> than a t-shirt.

I agree. And please make something more stylish than a t-shirt for the
ladies that LOOKS like it's for a lady, too ... not this
unisex-if-you're-built-like-a-man stuff!

[Jim Macklin]

Just bending over to pick up the dropped whatever...


"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
|
| "Jim Macklin" > wrote
in message
| news:37Jmf.18789$QW2.17804@dukeread08...
| > I like a flapped or buttoned pocket so stuff doesn't
fall
| > out and big enough to hold a std size wiz-wheel.
|
| You must be doing too many negative G's! <g>
| --
| Jim in NC
|

[Morgans]

"nrp" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I agree - has to have a pocket.

And a collar. I can't stand shoulder belts cutting into my neck.

I think they call those polo shirts. <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Morgans]

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:37Jmf.18789$QW2.17804@dukeread08...
> I like a flapped or buttoned pocket so stuff doesn't fall
> out and big enough to hold a std size wiz-wheel.

You must be doing too many negative G's! <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Al Gilson]

Yep. I buy 'em when I see 'em. On a side note: I rented a plane in Las
Vegas during our February visit the last couple years. The first year I
looked for a T-shirt or hat for a souvenir-nope. Last year the had some
polo shirts (too espensive) or a hat (proced right) with their logo on
it. One important note: Make sure your FBO logo says where you are.
This FBO at North Las Vegas had nothing in their logo that said where
they were.

Al
SFF (Spokane, WA)
(nope...my local FBO doesn't have anything either)

Jay Honeck wrote:
> Mary had this brainstorm the other day; I present it here for your
> opinion...
>
> Every Harley dealer in America seems to have their own custom-designed
> T-shirt. Usually it's got the Harley-Davidson logo, combined with the local
> dealer's name, and some recognizable symbol. Our local Harley shop has the
> old State Capitol on his (the most historic and recognizable symbol of Iowa
> City), for example.
>
> Many (most?) Harley owners seem to collect these shirts. Wherever they
> visit, (and we've had Harley rider guests who have done this), they make a
> bee-line to the local dealer, to buy their shirt. It's kind of a neat
> tradition.
>
> Why not do something similar at airports? If each FBO had a snazzy T-shirt
> that was specific and unique to *their* FBO, and their location, would you
> not buy it? I know I would.
>
> Mary has often remarked about how cold and stand-off-ish so many FBOs are
> (with some major exceptions, of course), and how it would be great to be
> able to purchase souvenirs from local airports along our many cross-country
> flights. This T-shirt idea would be slick, because (a) it would fill a
> perceived need, (b) it wouldn't represent much of an investment from always
> cash-strapped FBOs, and (c) there are tens of thousands of airports, all
> over the country.
>
> Anyone out there own a T-shirt shop? Could not, say, the Wizard of Draws
> be employed creating unique designs for each airport?
>
> Does this dog hunt?

[Flyingmonk]

I'd buy some.

[Flyingmonk]

Heck I'd buy one that said I stayed at "balh blah blah Suite at Alexis
Park Inn".

[A Lieberman]

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:16:53 -0600, Rachel wrote:

> I don't even wear T-shirts, and I'd buy one from an FBO. I've had to
> make myself happy with business cards so far. :-) I love my collection
> of FBO business cards.

This makes me laugh.... I thought I was the "only one" :-)

My wife says, the only "proof" I have been to an airport is the FBO card.
Fuel tickets / receipts don't count! Purchase in the city don't count. It
must be that FBO card. Sadly enough, I have come across 7 FBO's that don't
even have a card!

Allen

[N93332]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:EZFmf.394649$084.97654@attbi_s22...
> Why not do something similar at airports? If each FBO had a snazzy
> T-shirt that was specific and unique to *their* FBO, and their location,
> would you not buy it? I know I would.

I guess I'll have to visit the bigger airports that have people around and
an FBO that sells stuff. ;-)

There are some of the fly-in breakfasts that I've been to that sell t-shirts
and polo shirts. I've got a t-shirt from the 1st annual Fly-In at Burt
International and another from an Ercoupe fly-in in Texas, although I didn't
attend either.

You'll need to get some shirts to sell for your Big Kids Toy Show!

[Matt Whiting]

Jay Honeck wrote:

> Mary had this brainstorm the other day; I present it here for your
> opinion...
>
> Every Harley dealer in America seems to have their own custom-designed
> T-shirt. Usually it's got the Harley-Davidson logo, combined with the local
> dealer's name, and some recognizable symbol. Our local Harley shop has the
> old State Capitol on his (the most historic and recognizable symbol of Iowa
> City), for example.
>
> Many (most?) Harley owners seem to collect these shirts. Wherever they
> visit, (and we've had Harley rider guests who have done this), they make a
> bee-line to the local dealer, to buy their shirt. It's kind of a neat
> tradition.
>
> Why not do something similar at airports? If each FBO had a snazzy T-shirt
> that was specific and unique to *their* FBO, and their location, would you
> not buy it? I know I would.
>
> Mary has often remarked about how cold and stand-off-ish so many FBOs are
> (with some major exceptions, of course), and how it would be great to be
> able to purchase souvenirs from local airports along our many cross-country
> flights. This T-shirt idea would be slick, because (a) it would fill a
> perceived need, (b) it wouldn't represent much of an investment from always
> cash-strapped FBOs, and (c) there are tens of thousands of airports, all
> over the country.
>
> Anyone out there own a T-shirt shop? Could not, say, the Wizard of Draws
> be employed creating unique designs for each airport?
>
> Does this dog hunt?

It might, but my experience is that pilots aren't pack animals like
Harley owners seem to be. I'm in the American Voyager Association and
the group has a saying that Voyager owners are like Eagles, you don't
find us in flocks. :-)

I think pilots are more like Eagles than like buzzards. :-) :-)

Matt

[George Patterson]

Jay Honeck wrote:

> Does this dog hunt?

Don't think so, however, the FBO at 47N has had shirts made up and available in
the pilot supplies. You might contact them and see how many they've sold.
http://www.centraljerseyairport.com

I didn't buy one.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

[tom pettit]

I would! The last time I flew to Burns, Oregon, a local helicopter company
guy had on a neat tee shirt. I asked if I could buy one, and they said,
"no, they are just for employees".

I still want one.

tom

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:EZFmf.394649$084.97654@attbi_s22...
> Mary had this brainstorm the other day; I present it here for your
> opinion...
>
> Why not do something similar at airports? If each FBO had a snazzy
> T-shirt that was specific and unique to *their* FBO, and their location,
> would you not buy it? I know I would.
>

[Peter R.]

Morgans > wrote:

> And a collar. I can't stand shoulder belts cutting into my neck.

Agreed. This has always been a problem for me, too.

--
Peter

[Martin Hotze]

On 10 Dec 2005 17:38:31 -0800, Flyingmonk wrote:

>Heck I'd buy one that said I stayed at "balh blah blah Suite at Alexis
>Park Inn".

Or:
"I had great sex
in the hot-tub
in the Blackbird-Suite
at the Alexis Park Inn
I did _come_ close to IOW.
But don't tell my wife!"


I had about 100 T's produced for my business. 2 color print, good quality,
for about $4 each. The polo would be a bit more expensive.


#m
--
.................................................. .. War Is Peace
.............................................. Freedom Is Slavery
........................................... Ignorance Is Strength
............................................. George Orwell, 1984

[Martin Hotze]

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:56:02 -0800, "tom pettit" <tompet<at>peak<dot>org>
wrote:

>I would! The last time I flew to Burns, Oregon, a local helicopter company
>guy had on a neat tee shirt. I asked if I could buy one, and they said,
>"no, they are just for employees".
>
>I still want one.

this is a shirt with quaility and good design. Most advertizing Ts I've
seen are of poor quality, cheap design (I don't want the full fron or back
with their advertisment. It should be small. Understatement rule, IMHO),
awful colors and way overprized.

>tom

#m
--
.................................................. .. War Is Peace
.............................................. Freedom Is Slavery
........................................... Ignorance Is Strength
............................................. George Orwell, 1984

[Jay Honeck]

>> If it were a polo shirt, =with= a pocket, and a nice design, I might be
>> interested (though not in collecting, just in getting a few).
>
> Yes, a breast pocket is required for a pen.

Agreed!

However, the FBO's initial investment just doubled in price...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

>> And a collar. I can't stand shoulder belts cutting into my neck.
>
> Agreed. This has always been a problem for me, too.

This is great. The Harley guys are out there, on the road, bugs splatting
on their foreheads, wearing their dealer's T-shirt.

We, on the other hand, want an FBO polo shirt so that the shoulder harness
doesn't chafe. With big pockets.

Gentlemen, we have become wimps.

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> "I had great sex
> in the hot-tub
> in the Blackbird-Suite
> at the Alexis Park Inn

Martin. I'm shocked -- SHOCKED -- that you think there is some sort of
illicit sex happening in our hot tub suites...

;-)

I don't think Mary would go for the T-shirt thing. But our hats have been
fairly popular...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> You can have your own online T-shirt shop in about 3 minutes.
>
> http://www.cafepress.com
>
> All they need is your logo, they'll do the rest.

Great site -- thanks! A bit pricey, but good for "proof of concept" if
nothing else...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

>> You can have your own online T-shirt shop in about 3 minutes.
>>
>> http://www.cafepress.com

I just designed and ordered two "prototype" T-shirts for the hotel. We'll
see what they look like!

Thanks again,
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Flyingmonk]

A few years back before I lost my 'little' fortune in the stock
markets, my brother-in-law and I started a dotcom company,
AfterSchoolJobs.com. We went to Thailand on an unlated trip and had
1,000.00 Polo shirts made up with our logo on the breast. The shirts
cost us all of $3.27/ a piece. Customs wanted something in the
neighborhood of $7,00/piece as tarrif/tax. We let them keep them.

We broke even on the venture. Looking back, if we had started just a
year earlier than we did, we'd be as big as Hotjobs.com or maybe even
Monster.com (dreaming again). We actually got alot of advertisers, but
in the downtrend of bubble burst, we couldn't get venture capitalists.

Somewhere out there there's over nine hundred Polos with
AfterSchoolJobs.com on them.

[Flyingmonk]

Here's an idea Jay. print the T's and include them with the room
rentals. If printed in quantities, the price would be negligible.

[me]

I agree that I typically woudnt buy any shirts that have a large imprint on
it. The shirts I look for at sun and fun are the ones that only have a small
logo on the front or worst case a larger print on the back but with nothing
on the front.


"Martin Hotze" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:56:02 -0800, "tom pettit" <tompet<at>peak<dot>org>
> wrote:
>
>>I would! The last time I flew to Burns, Oregon, a local helicopter
>>company
>>guy had on a neat tee shirt. I asked if I could buy one, and they said,
>>"no, they are just for employees".
>>
>>I still want one.
>
> this is a shirt with quaility and good design. Most advertizing Ts I've
> seen are of poor quality, cheap design (I don't want the full fron or back
> with their advertisment. It should be small. Understatement rule, IMHO),
> awful colors and way overprized.
>
>>tom
>
> #m
> --
> .................................................. .. War Is Peace
> .............................................. Freedom Is Slavery
> ........................................... Ignorance Is Strength
> ............................................. George Orwell, 1984

[A Lieberman]

On 11 Dec 2005 07:45:57 -0800, Flyingmonk wrote:

> Here's an idea Jay. print the T's and include them with the room
> rentals. If printed in quantities, the price would be negligible.

Not only that, but it sure would be "free advertisement" if people wore
them outside the hotel :-)

Allen

[Martin Hotze]

On 11 Dec 2005 07:43:34 -0800, Flyingmonk wrote:

>We went to Thailand on an unlated trip and had
>1,000.00 Polo shirts made up with our logo on the breast. The shirts
>cost us all of $3.27/ a piece.

It took me some research, but I almost had your quoted price on a 100 Ts
production. Produced in Europe, so I had no hassle with customs or import
taxes. You sure can find the same or better deals in the US.

#m
--
.................................................. .. War Is Peace
.............................................. Freedom Is Slavery
........................................... Ignorance Is Strength
............................................. George Orwell, 1984

[Martin Hotze]

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:18:39 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

>> "I had great sex
>> in the hot-tub
>> in the Blackbird-Suite
>> at the Alexis Park Inn
>
>Martin. I'm shocked -- SHOCKED -- that you think there is some sort of
>illicit sex happening in our hot tub suites...

why illicit? nobody said that.

#m
--
.................................................. .. War Is Peace
.............................................. Freedom Is Slavery
........................................... Ignorance Is Strength
............................................. George Orwell, 1984

[Jim Carter]

Knowing how much fuel costs and landing fees have risen, this might be a
good tool for competing FBOs at a given field. For an FBO that is the
sole operator at a smaller field, if they didn't try to make their
monthly lease payments from the shirt and kept it very reasonably priced
it could become a sort of traveling billboard for them.

There seems to be a lot of upside potential with very little downside.
Keep them cheap enough and it could become a real neat gimmick.

Regards,

James A. (Jim) Carter


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Honeck ]
Posted At: Saturday, December 10, 2005 1:26 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.piloting
Conversation: Aviation Business Idea
Subject: Aviation Business Idea

Mary had this brainstorm the other day; I present it here for your
opinion...

Every Harley dealer in America seems to have their own custom-designed
T-shirt. Usually it's got the Harley-Davidson logo, combined with the
local
dealer's name, and some recognizable symbol. Our local Harley shop has
the
old State Capitol on his (the most historic and recognizable symbol of
Iowa
City), for example.

Many (most?) Harley owners seem to collect these shirts. Wherever they
visit, (and we've had Harley rider guests who have done this), they make
a
bee-line to the local dealer, to buy their shirt. It's kind of a neat
tradition.

Why not do something similar at airports? If each FBO had a snazzy
T-shirt
that was specific and unique to *their* FBO, and their location, would
you
not buy it? I know I would.

Mary has often remarked about how cold and stand-off-ish so many FBOs
are
(with some major exceptions, of course), and how it would be great to be

able to purchase souvenirs from local airports along our many
cross-country
flights. This T-shirt idea would be slick, because (a) it would fill a
perceived need, (b) it wouldn't represent much of an investment from
always
cash-strapped FBOs, and (c) there are tens of thousands of airports, all

over the country.

Anyone out there own a T-shirt shop? Could not, say, the Wizard of
Draws
be employed creating unique designs for each airport?

Does this dog hunt?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Flyingmonk]

Polos, not T-shirts. Good wuality Polos. T-shirts are a dime a dozen.

[Flyingmonk]

Are you thinking of T-shirts in-lieu of good quality Polos, Martin?

[Martin Hotze]

On 11 Dec 2005 09:24:42 -0800, Flyingmonk wrote:

>Are you thinking of T-shirts in-lieu of good quality Polos, Martin?

you can have whatever you want. the company I found here (in Europe) will
produce the Ts or polos according to _your_ design with your colors (if you
feel you have to produce a size XXS or something with matching colors to
your aircraft painting. *g*).

when buying Ts be sure to have at least 170g up to 200 or 220g (heavy T).
Depending on the location you also might sell sweaters.

Jay's idea is easy to accomplish, but I've seen some FBOs during my
holidays: most of them lack marketing.


seen on a cap (a older man had it on):
"this is MY cap, everything else is hers."

#m
--
.................................................. .. War Is Peace
.............................................. Freedom Is Slavery
........................................... Ignorance Is Strength
............................................. George Orwell, 1984

[Matt Whiting]

Jay Honeck wrote:

>>>And a collar. I can't stand shoulder belts cutting into my neck.
>>
>>Agreed. This has always been a problem for me, too.
>
>
> This is great. The Harley guys are out there, on the road, bugs splatting
> on their foreheads, wearing their dealer's T-shirt.
>
> We, on the other hand, want an FBO polo shirt so that the shoulder harness
> doesn't chafe. With big pockets.
>
> Gentlemen, we have become wimps.
>
> :-)

Or have attained an IQ above room temperature! :-)


Matt

[Montblack]

("Matt Whiting" wrote)
> Or have attained an IQ above room temperature! :-)


F? or C?


'My name is Montblack...'

[Martin Hotze]

On 11 Dec 2005 10:24:40 -0800, Flyingmonk wrote:

>>you can have whatever you want. the company I found here (in Europe)
>
>Are you anywhere near Toulouse?

in terms of American distances: yes.
I live in the heart of the Alps.

It really doesn't matter (re shipping costs) where in the EU you are
(except UK, IMHO).

that's the company: http://www.trueimage.de/ (sorry, German only) The
website doesn't give you really good info.

#m
--
If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
W. Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice, Act III, scene I

[Martin Hotze]

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:51:12 -0600, Montblack wrote:

>> Or have attained an IQ above room temperature! :-)
>
>
>F? or C?

this was my text!!!11

:-)



#m, IQ of ~135 when tested in school back then.
--
If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
W. Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice, Act III, scene I

[Matt Whiting]

Montblack wrote:

> ("Matt Whiting" wrote)
>
>> Or have attained an IQ above room temperature! :-)
>
>
>
> F? or C?

Either! :-)

Matt

[Tom Conner]

"Flyingmonk" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Here's an idea Jay. print the T's and include them with the room
> rentals. If printed in quantities, the price would be negligible.
>

That's right. A "professional manager" (MBA) will tell you that if you lose
a little on each sale you can make it up with volume.

[Darrel Toepfer]

Tom Conner wrote:
> "Flyingmonk" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> Here's an idea Jay. print the T's and include them with the room
>> rentals. If printed in quantities, the price would be negligible.
>>
>
> That's right. A "professional manager" (MBA) will tell you that if you lose
> a little on each sale you can make it up with volume.

Bigger cars, trucks and planes... To haul them of course...

[Darrel Toepfer]

Martin Hotze wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:18:39 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:
>
>>> "I had great sex
>>> in the hot-tub
>>> in the Blackbird-Suite
>>> at the Alexis Park Inn
>> Martin. I'm shocked -- SHOCKED -- that you think there is some sort of
>> illicit sex happening in our hot tub suites...
>
> why illicit? nobody said that.

Perhaps he was *soliciting*....

[Montblack]

>>> Or have attained an IQ above room temperature! :-)

>> F? or C?

("Matt Whiting" wrote)
> Either! :-)


Combined - but we're still in double digits.


Montblack
(Throw in a few EQ points and we're there! Wew.)

[[email protected]]

I've had the same "want" for a long time. It would be particularly
nice if they had both a t-shirt and polo available.

[Bob Noel]

In article <PGVmf.620114$_o.524797@attbi_s71>,
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> I don't think Mary would go for the T-shirt thing. But our hats have been
> fairly popular...

hats? you had hats? How did I miss them?

--
Bob Noel
New NHL? what a joke

[tom pettit]

I agree. Polo shirts suck. Only yupee asswipes wear them. Give me a tee.
tom

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> I've had the same "want" for a long time. It would be particularly
> nice if they had both a t-shirt and polo available.
>

[Jay Honeck]

> hats? you had hats? How did I miss them?

Dunno. They're stacked up on the O-540 crankshaft in the lobby...

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Bob Noel]

In article <mJ1nf.397630$084.292258@attbi_s22>,
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> > hats? you had hats? How did I miss them?
>
> Dunno. They're stacked up on the O-540 crankshaft in the lobby...

remind me to grab one in January. (er, make that remind me to buy one).

--
Bob Noel
New NHL? what a joke

[Matt Whiting]

Bob Noel wrote:
> In article <mJ1nf.397630$084.292258@attbi_s22>,
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
>
>
>>>hats? you had hats? How did I miss them?
>>
>>Dunno. They're stacked up on the O-540 crankshaft in the lobby...
>
>
> remind me to grab one in January. (er, make that remind me to buy one).
>

I thought that was the award for the illicit hot tub activity. :-)

Matt

[Morgans]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote

> We, on the other hand, want an FBO polo shirt so that the shoulder harness
> doesn't chafe. With big pockets.
>
> Gentlemen, we have become wimps.

Your point is? <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Morgans]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> I've had the same "want" for a long time. It would be particularly
> nice if they had both a t-shirt and polo available.

Really, if they are silk screened, the screen investment is the biggest
cost, so the only difference between t's and polo's should be the price of
the base shirt.

See, we can all live together, here!
--
Jim in NC

[Jose]

> Really, if they are silk screened, the screen investment is the biggest
> cost, so the only difference between t's and polo's should be the price of
> the base shirt.

A good polo will be sewn. If it's not good quality, I won't buy it.
And the FBO wouldn't want it to represent them.

Jose
--
You can choose whom to befriend, but you cannot choose whom to love.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Jay Honeck]

> A good polo will be sewn. If it's not good quality, I won't buy it. And
> the FBO wouldn't want it to represent them.

Although I agree with you, the object of this game is to keep the investment
affordable for even the smallest FBO. If the FBOs don't buy into the idea,
if a pilot can't get a unique t-shirt at *every* FBO, this house of cards
comes tumbling down.

I think the key is to make the t-shirts unique to the area, and to the FBO,
so that pilots want them as souvenirs. Good quality is a must, but they
just can't be too pricey, or they will rot on the rack. An embroidered polo
shirt is quite a bit more pricey than a screen-printed t-shirt.

So, anyone got any idea how best to get in touch with 10,000 FBOs?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jose]

> If the FBOs don't buy into the idea,
> if a pilot can't get a unique t-shirt at
> *every* FBO, this house of cards
> comes tumbling down.

Not true at all. No pilot will be flying to every FBO, let alone
collecting ten thousand shirts. If the quality is not good enough, they
will rot on the rack too.

In the summertime I wear polo shirts mostly, but I try to wear a
buttondown for flying just because of the pocket. If FBOs made nice
polo shirts with pockets, a neat unique logo, and good enough quality at
a nice price, I'd buy them, and I think that enough other pilots would
that it would work out. Especially considering student pilots, who
could =earn= a free shirt when they get their license from scratch with
their flight school. By that time the flight school has made enough
money on the student to make this a nice touch, which will promote the
flight school as the newly minted student wears his shirt with pride.

A polo shirt can be worn at nicer functions than a t-shirt. But no
pocket, no interest.

Our flying club has made polo shirts with the flying 20 logo on it. The
shirt is $27 retail (I don't know what our cost is). Alas, no pocket,
but you know what I think about that.

http://www.flying20club.org/mercantile.html

Jose
--
You can choose whom to befriend, but you cannot choose whom to love.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[JohnH]

>>> You can have your own online T-shirt shop in about 3 minutes.
>>>
>>> http://www.cafepress.com
>
> I just designed and ordered two "prototype" T-shirts for the hotel. We'll
> see what they look like!

Good luck, let us know how they turn out.

I hope you included a dotted line on the back above having the words "cut
upon first solo flight" ;^)

Regardless, I hope you don't lose your shirt on the endeavor.

(Ok, I'll stop now)

[Morgans]

"JohnH" > wrote

> I hope you included a dotted line on the back above having the words "cut
> upon first solo flight" ;^)

What a rip-off!
--
Jim in NC

[Morgans]

> > A good polo will be sewn. If it's not good quality, I won't buy it. And
> > the FBO wouldn't want it to represent them.
>
> Although I agree with you, the object of this game is to keep the
investment
> affordable for even the smallest FBO. If the FBOs don't buy into the
idea,
> if a pilot can't get a unique t-shirt at *every* FBO, this house of cards
> comes tumbling down.
>
> I think the key is to make the t-shirts unique to the area, and to the
FBO,
> so that pilots want them as souvenirs. Good quality is a must, but they
> just can't be too pricey, or they will rot on the rack. An embroidered
polo
> shirt is quite a bit more pricey than a screen-printed t-shirt.

I agree. A tastefull, high quality printed, perhaps 2 or 3 color design
would still look good, and not cost too much.

> So, anyone got any idea how best to get in touch with 10,000 FBOs?

Open the door and shout *real* loud, "Calling all FBO's, Calling all
FBO's - come in, please!" ???

[Darrel Toepfer]

Morgans wrote:

>> So, anyone got any idea how best to get in touch with 10,000 FBOs?
>
> Open the door and shout *real* loud, "Calling all FBO's, Calling all
> FBO's - come in, please!" ???

Some of the websites are calling on a weekly basis for fuel prices...

[Jay Honeck]

>>> So, anyone got any idea how best to get in touch with 10,000 FBOs?
>>
>> Open the door and shout *real* loud, "Calling all FBO's, Calling all
>> FBO's - come in, please!" ???
>
> Some of the websites are calling on a weekly basis for fuel prices...

Anyone know who is doing this?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Larry Dighera]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:46:25 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote in
<lo6nf.398056$084.17169@attbi_s22>::

>So, anyone got any idea how best to get in touch with 10,000 FBOs?

As many aviation tabloids are offered free to their readership at FBO
crew lounges, I would consider contacting some of those listed here:

http://www.landings.com/_landings/pages/publications.html

Of course, the FAA Regional Office should also have a list of FBOs.
Another obvious source for FBO listings is AOPA.

Here's a firm that exhibited at AOPA Expo:
http://jensenactivewear.com/index.htm
screen Print and embroidery company specializing in custom tees, sweat
shirt designs & embroider hats, Jackets ect. for FBO, airports,ect

[Skylune]

This one could be called "Sunnin."

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/designer.aspx?pr=Front

[Jay Honeck]

> As many aviation tabloids are offered free to their readership at FBO
> crew lounges, I would consider contacting some of those listed here:
>
> http://www.landings.com/_landings/pages/publications.html

Wow, that's quite a list.

Sadly (but not surprisingly, I suppose), the link to the "B-17 Crewmen
Newsletter" no longer works...

:-(
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Greg B]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Sadly (but not surprisingly, I suppose), the link to the "B-17 Crewmen
> Newsletter" no longer works...

Just Googled "B-17 Combat Crewmen & Wingmen Newsletter" and it shows:
B-17 Combat Crewmen & Wingmen Newsletter
Mr. Arvin McCauley 818/803-9406
12626 N Grand Oaks
Altadena, CA 91001
from http://www.vets.com/alumni/usaf/usaf.txt

Some Bomb Groups have websites such as http://100thbg.org/

[Bob Chilcoat]

You can create your own custom shirt here http://www.zazzle.com/ with no
setup charge or minimum. I designed a shirt for my grandson to wear after
his new baby brother arrived. Had a picture of a celestial galaxy cribbed
from the Hubble site and the text "I used to be the Center of the Universe,
but now I'm just the Big Brother" on it. Was reasonably priced, and pretty
quick. Design something for your FBO.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)


"JohnH" > wrote in message
...
>> Anyone out there own a T-shirt shop? Could not, say, the Wizard of
>> Draws be employed creating unique designs for each airport?
>
> You can have your own online T-shirt shop in about 3 minutes.
>
> http://www.cafepress.com
>
> All they need is your logo, they'll do the rest.
>