New & FREE $100 Hamburger Site

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Announcing the new and FREE $100 hamburger site. It is at
http://www.frappr.com/100dollarhamburgers.

I did think about calling it the $95 hamburger map.

Make you post I make no promises to help keep it up to date and clean but
I'll try and if anybody wants to help e-mail me and I'll give you the admin
password.

[Tom Conner]

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote in message
...
> Announcing the new and FREE $100 hamburger site. It is at
> http://www.frappr.com/100dollarhamburgers.
>
> I did think about calling it the $95 hamburger map.
>
> Make you post I make no promises to help keep it up to date and clean but
> I'll try and if anybody wants to help e-mail me and I'll give you the
admin
> password.
>

To be both more accurate, and avoid legal hassles, you should call it the
$200 dollar hamburger site.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

"Tom Conner" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote in message
> ...
>> Announcing the new and FREE $100 hamburger site. It is at
>> http://www.frappr.com/100dollarhamburgers.
>>
>> I did think about calling it the $95 hamburger map.
>>
>> Make you post I make no promises to help keep it up to date and clean but
>> I'll try and if anybody wants to help e-mail me and I'll give you the
> admin
>> password.
>>
>
> To be both more accurate, and avoid legal hassles, you should call it the
> $200 dollar hamburger site.
>
>

Not worried. I didn't use a $ sign in the title

[Peter Clark]

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:45:45 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
<wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote:

>
>"Tom Conner" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>>
>> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Announcing the new and FREE $100 hamburger site. It is at
>>> http://www.frappr.com/100dollarhamburgers.
>>>
>>> I did think about calling it the $95 hamburger map.
>>>
>>> Make you post I make no promises to help keep it up to date and clean but
>>> I'll try and if anybody wants to help e-mail me and I'll give you the
>> admin
>>> password.
>>>
>>
>> To be both more accurate, and avoid legal hassles, you should call it the
>> $200 dollar hamburger site.
>>
>>
>
>Not worried. I didn't use a $ sign in the title

YMMV, but I wouldn't count on that being enough of a change to satisfy
an IP lawyer's sniff test. It's substantially the same concept, with
yours started specifically in answer to the other one changing it's
pricing scheme, with the intent being to attract the other sites user
base. It would at least be enough to get a court hearing, and it's
much easier to just change it now than go through the expense and
hassle of lawyers later....

[Gig 601XL Builder]

The phrase $100 Hamburger goes back LONG before the guy either wrote his
book or started his web site.




"Peter Clark" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:45:45 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
> <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Tom Conner" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>>>
>>> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Announcing the new and FREE $100 hamburger site. It is at
>>>> http://www.frappr.com/100dollarhamburgers.
>>>>
>>>> I did think about calling it the $95 hamburger map.
>>>>
>>>> Make you post I make no promises to help keep it up to date and clean
>>>> but
>>>> I'll try and if anybody wants to help e-mail me and I'll give you the
>>> admin
>>>> password.
>>>>
>>>
>>> To be both more accurate, and avoid legal hassles, you should call it
>>> the
>>> $200 dollar hamburger site.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Not worried. I didn't use a $ sign in the title
>
> YMMV, but I wouldn't count on that being enough of a change to satisfy
> an IP lawyer's sniff test. It's substantially the same concept, with
> yours started specifically in answer to the other one changing it's
> pricing scheme, with the intent being to attract the other sites user
> base. It would at least be enough to get a court hearing, and it's
> much easier to just change it now than go through the expense and
> hassle of lawyers later....

[Larry Dighera]

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:08:28 -0500, Peter Clark
> wrote in
>::

>
>>> To be both more accurate, and avoid legal hassles, you should call it the
>>> $200 dollar hamburger site.
>>>
>>
>>Not worried. I didn't use a $ sign in the title
>
>YMMV, but I wouldn't count on that being enough of a change to satisfy
>an IP lawyer's sniff test. It's substantially the same concept,

The name '$100 Hamburger' was in common use long before the Internet.
There's no question that it's in the public domain. Surely that
fellow who published the book isn't arrogant enough to attempt to
hijack that venerable phrase of pilot jargon.

>with yours started specifically in answer to the other one changing it's
>pricing scheme, with the intent being to attract the other sites user
>base.

Isn't the concept of a free airport restaurant PIREP database
manifesting itself in the void left by the absence of the former free
database possibly a result of necessity, rather than any malice. The
only attraction is the common effort to share information with fellow
airmen for the benefit of all.

>It would at least be enough to get a court hearing, and it's
>much easier to just change it now than go through the expense and
>hassle of lawyers later....

That presupposes the old web site's sovereignty over a bit of aviation
vernacular.

[.Blueskies.]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message ...
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:08:28 -0500, Peter Clark
> > wrote in
> >::
>
>>
>>>> To be both more accurate, and avoid legal hassles, you should call it the
>>>> $200 dollar hamburger site.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Not worried. I didn't use a $ sign in the title
>>
>>YMMV, but I wouldn't count on that being enough of a change to satisfy
>>an IP lawyer's sniff test. It's substantially the same concept,
>
> The name '$100 Hamburger' was in common use long before the Internet.
> There's no question that it's in the public domain. Surely that
> fellow who published the book isn't arrogant enough to attempt to
> hijack that venerable phrase of pilot jargon.
>


It seems these days that anyone can create a trademark or copyright a phrase even if it was around long ago. It is not
like a patent...

[Darrel Toepfer]

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
> The phrase $100 Hamburger goes back LONG before the guy either wrote his
> book or started his web site.

I'm not a lawyer, nor play one on teevee, but I agree with the above and
would testify that I've heard the term used as such, long before someone
placed it on the web... *I* don't figure it as
copyright/tradename-able... 1st one to register it as a domain, gets the
rights to use it, as has been done...

100dollarhamburger.org
100dollarhamburger.net

And probably all the other dot choices (besides .com) seem to be
available...

[Casey Wilson]

>> The name '$100 Hamburger' was in common use long before the Internet.
>> There's no question that it's in the public domain. Surely that
>> fellow who published the book isn't arrogant enough to attempt to
>> hijack that venerable phrase of pilot jargon.
>>
>
>
> It seems these days that anyone can create a trademark or copyright a
> phrase even if it was around long ago. It is not like a patent...

The following information in NOT provided as legal opinion or legal
advice. Go hire an attorney for that. I am a writer and can only relate
information I've gained through experience.
First, no one can "copyright" a phrase. The copyright belongs to the
person that created the art in some substantial form. Only one person can
create the art -- everybody else then copies it at their peril.
A person may register his or her copyright to the art as a form of
establishing ownership. A person may likewise file registration on art to
which they do not own copyright. If a second person can prove they created
the art prior to the registration and thus legally own copyright they can
sue for infringement.
Now, here is an interesting point. If the term "$100 Hamburger" is a
title, it is NOT subject to copyright. That is, a person can NOT register
the title of a piece of work, only the material within. Try this exercise:
go to www.loc.gov [Library of Congress, USA] and do a title search on the
word Images. I suggest you put an operator on the search to limit it to only
material with the single word to avoid listing all the titles that contain
the word -- E.G., Images of History, etc.

So is "$100 Hamburger" a title?

Regards,

Casey Wilson,
Freelance Writer
and Photographer

[Joe Feise]

Casey Wilson wrote on 12/16/05 17:16:

>>> The name '$100 Hamburger' was in common use long before the Internet.
>>> There's no question that it's in the public domain. Surely that
>>> fellow who published the book isn't arrogant enough to attempt to
>>> hijack that venerable phrase of pilot jargon.
>>>
>>
>> It seems these days that anyone can create a trademark or copyright a
>> phrase even if it was around long ago. It is not like a patent...
>
> The following information in NOT provided as legal opinion or legal
> advice. Go hire an attorney for that. I am a writer and can only relate
> information I've gained through experience.
> First, no one can "copyright" a phrase.


Yes, but it could be a trademark...

> A person may register his or her copyright to the art as a form of
> establishing ownership.


Actually, copyright protection is automatic, at least in the US, since sometime
in the 70ies. To be able to defend your right, it is very useful to register
your piece of work with the copyright office.

-Joe
(who, as software developer, knows a bit or two about copyright...)

[Jack]

Peter Clark wrote:

>>Not worried. I didn't use a $ sign in the title
>
> YMMV, but I wouldn't count on that being enough of a change to satisfy
> an IP lawyer's sniff test. It's substantially the same concept, with
> yours started specifically in answer to the other one changing it's
> pricing scheme, with the intent being to attract the other sites user
> base.

Could be. Where did the site get the term "$100 Dollar Hamburger"? It
existed a long time before they came along.


Jack

[Lou]

Why not the $100 cheeseburger?

[Darrel Toepfer]

Lou wrote:
> Why not the $100 cheeseburger?

I hate cheese, you'd have to pay me to eat them...

[Montblack]

("Darrel Toepfer" wrote)
> 100dollarhamburger.org
> 100dollarhamburger.net
>
> And probably all the other dot choices (besides .com) seem to be
> available...


www.foodpirep.com is available.


www.montblack.com is already registered. Drat.

[Greg B]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Darrel Toepfer" wrote)
>> 100dollarhamburger.org
>> 100dollarhamburger.net
>>
>> And probably all the other dot choices (besides .com) seem to be
>> available...
>
>
> www.foodpirep.com is available.
>
>
> www.montblack.com is already registered. Drat.

www.montblack.net and www.montblack.org are available through
www.netidentity.com. E-Mails available too...

[Martin Hotze]

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:55:26 -0600, Montblack wrote:

>www.montblack.com is already registered. Drat.

but .us, .biz, .info .org, .net .... are all available.

#m
--
If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
W. Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice, Act III, scene I

[Martin Hotze]

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:18:28 -0600, Greg B wrote:

>> www.montblack.com is already registered. Drat.
>
>www.montblack.net and www.montblack.org are available through
>www.netidentity.com. E-Mails available too...

there are neither DNS nor WHOIS entries for these 2 domains. So they are
available for direct registration. No need for netidentity.com ... oh, they
are a hosting service like a bazillion others.

#m
--
If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
W. Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice, Act III, scene I

[John Doe]

awesome. thanks.


"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote in message
...
> Announcing the new and FREE $100 hamburger site. It is at
> http://www.frappr.com/100dollarhamburgers.
>
> I did think about calling it the $95 hamburger map.
>
> Make you post I make no promises to help keep it up to date and clean but
> I'll try and if anybody wants to help e-mail me and I'll give you the
> admin
> password.
>