C-152 Emergency Landing at Rancho Murietta

[three-eight-hotel]

Check out this link:

http://www.kcra.com/news/5844154/detail.html

The video shows the tracks left in the mud by the mains and front
tire...

As quoted by the news-copter, it appears to have been a text book
soft-field approach. You can see when he pans out that the mains are
the only tracks in the mud for several hundred feet, then the front
touches down, causing the plane to over-turn

Nobody was seriously hurt, thank God!

Best Regards,
Todd

[Robert M. Gary]

Wow! I didn't know about this. I teach out of that airport. We had a
pretty nasty accident last summer where a friend of mine was flying
with a primary student and mismanaged the fuel. They landed short of
the airport. She may never walk again, the student was injured but the
CFIs daughter was also onboard (luckily unhurt). Several months ago a
soloed student rented the Bell 47 and lost the tail rotor. She lived
but may have trouble walking as well. :(

-Robert, CFI

[Jose]

> http://www.kcra.com/news/5844154/detail.html
>
> The video shows...

What video? There is no valid link where it says "video" on the page as
it appears now. Got a direct link to the video?

Jose
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[three-eight-hotel]

I remember the one with the CFI's daughter aboard, although I never
really heard any follow-up information. I'm sorry to hear that the
injuries were that severe! :-(

As you know, it's actually a nice airport to land at, minus the gusty
winds at times. Flying out of the foothills, it is a welcome sight to
see all of the open fields surrounding the airport, but it seems open
fields can be deceiving as well...

It's too bad we've been seeing so much of this lately. There was a
lear-jet last week (at least I heard), and the recent crash at
Truckee...

Todd

[three-eight-hotel]

You can try this one, although I was able to get the video to load by
clicking on the link???

http://www.kcra.com/video/5844268/index.html

Best Regards,
Todd

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article . com>,
"three-eight-hotel" > wrote:

> http://www.kcra.com/video/5844268/index.html

Carburetor ice? There has been a lot of wet, nasty weather in CA lately!

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Remve "_" from email to reply to me personally.

[Robert M. Gary]

Especially now where the weather looks so CAVU. Makes you think you're
flying in the summer and forget about carb ice.

[Randy Aldous]

> http://www.kcra.com/news/5844154/detail.html

>> The video shows...



>What video? There is no valid link where it says "video" on the page as
>it appears now. Got a direct link to the video?

>Jose

The little picture to the right, at the top of the story, has a "Video"
link under it. It shows a short adv. before the story. Uses Windows
Media Player

Randy

[Jose]

> http://www.kcra.com/video/5844268/index.html

That one doesn't play either - it insists I have to get more software.

Never mind.

Jose
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[Darkwing]

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Especially now where the weather looks so CAVU. Makes you think you're
> flying in the summer and forget about carb ice.
>

The news report mentioned electrical problems, who knows.

---------------------------------------------
DW

[Robert M. Gary]

Yea, electrical problem seemed unlikely. Can't imagine an electrical
problem that could cause a crash. Especially odd since the reporter is
a commercial pilot himself.

[.Blueskies.]

"three-eight-hotel" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Check out this link:
>
> http://www.kcra.com/news/5844154/detail.html
>
> The video shows the tracks left in the mud by the mains and front
> tire...
>
> As quoted by the news-copter, it appears to have been a text book
> soft-field approach. You can see when he pans out that the mains are
> the only tracks in the mud for several hundred feet, then the front
> touches down, causing the plane to over-turn
>
> Nobody was seriously hurt, thank God!
>
> Best Regards,
> Todd
>

A couple weeks ago that field would not have been soft ;-)

Forced to make a landing because of an electrical problem (according to the news chopper guy?)

[Michael Ware]

Why did they call it a crash? Nobody was hurt, right? Plane looks pretty
intact, just upside down. Why don't they just call it a forced landing.

[JohnH]

Michael Ware wrote:
> Why did they call it a crash? Nobody was hurt, right? Plane looks
> pretty intact, just upside down. Why don't they just call it a forced
> landing.

Actually that would be called a "good landing". A "great landing" is one
where the plane can be used again.

[Ron Lee]

"JohnH" > wrote:

>Michael Ware wrote:
>> Why did they call it a crash? Nobody was hurt, right? Plane looks
>> pretty intact, just upside down. Why don't they just call it a forced
>> landing.
>
>Actually that would be called a "good landing". A "great landing" is one
>where the plane can be used again.

Better yet is "off-field landing." Plane can be reused after a normal
landing.

Ron Lee

[BTIZ]

I was able to play it right on the web.. just below the picture to the right
of the article that shows the aircraft on it's back are the "stop/play"
buttons.. clicked on it and it played on the web page ok without opening
windows media player

BT

"Jose" > wrote in message
...
>> http://www.kcra.com/news/5844154/detail.html
>>
>> The video shows...
>
> What video? There is no valid link where it says "video" on the page as
> it appears now. Got a direct link to the video?
>
> Jose
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[Jose]

> it played on the web page ok without opening
> windows media player

It (most likely) opened windows media player as a helper app. I
apparantly don't have a sufficiently powerful machine to satisfy the web
designer, despite the fact that I can play other movies just fine.

Jose
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[Morgans]

"Jose" > wrote

> It (most likely) opened windows media player as a helper app. I
> apparantly don't have a sufficiently powerful machine to satisfy the web
> designer, despite the fact that I can play other movies just fine.

It was very slow for me, also.
--
Jim in NC

[three-eight-hotel]

Yet, another one!!! What in the heck is going on, these days?

http://www.kcra.com/news/5847417/detail.html

Best Regards,
Todd

[Sylvain]

Michael Ware wrote:
> Why did they call it a crash? Nobody was hurt, right? Plane looks pretty
> intact, just upside down. Why don't they just call it a forced landing.
>

the journalist in the video was actually doing a pretty good
job IMHO at describing the incident just like that, i.e.,
nice forced landing, good soft field technique, not quite
perfect because of mud...

--Sylvain

[three-eight-hotel]

I agree...

John Hamilton (the journalist), is actually quite good, and seems like
a really nice guy as well. I was watching some of the storm coverage
last week, in Sacramento, and he got up between (very close) systems to
tried and capture some of the localized flooding we were seeing in the
area. It was really gusty, and he aluded to that in a few of his
reports and interrupted one of his reports, saying that tower was
suggesting him to land, due to the next system that was nearing the
airport.

All this is not entirely relevant, but I thought I would add a little
commentary/opinion on the reporter himself. I have been very impressed
with him over the year or so that I've seen him reporting.

Best Regards,
Todd

[Robert M. Gary]

He's actually the guy flying too so he should know something. In
general he did a good job. However, I would have added that the tail of
the plane is **designed** to withstand the force of flipping over. The
fact that the plane ended up on its back is something the design
engineers accounted for, flipping itself is not life threatening.

-Robert

[Robert M. Gary]

Fremont is quite far away from Rancho Murieta. Not sure why KCRA even
reported the Fremont thing other than it made for an interesting
picture. Its not in their TV market.

-Robert

[three-eight-hotel]

I guess I was eluding to the frequency of incidents that we've been
seeing lately, and strayed from the focus of Rancho Murietta.

If it's close enough for a $100 hamburger, than it's too close to home!
;-)

Todd

[Robert M. Gary]

True.

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"three-eight-hotel" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>I guess I was eluding to the frequency of incidents that we've been
> seeing lately, and strayed from the focus of Rancho Murietta.

Frequency? I just saw a comercial on TV from some insurance company that
claims there is an automobile accident every 5 seconds in the US.
How's that for frequency...

0.2Hz

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[Jim Logajan]

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote:
> "three-eight-hotel" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>I guess I was eluding to the frequency of incidents that we've been
>> seeing lately, and strayed from the focus of Rancho Murietta.
>
> Frequency? I just saw a comercial on TV from some insurance company that
> claims there is an automobile accident every 5 seconds in the US.
> How's that for frequency...
>
> 0.2Hz

Did you know that, on average, approximately once every 5 hours 25 minutes
someone somewhere in the world dies falling out of bed? At least according
to this link:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/mor_fal_inv_bed

Another good reason not to get out of bed in the morning!

And it seems more people die falling out of bed (1616) than in aircraft
accidents (1553):

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/mor_acc_to_pow_air_cau_inj_to_occ

;-)

[three-eight-hotel]

It's a good thing every car or siesta accident doesn't get reported on
our local news! ;-)

Can you imagine? "Joe Dirt died this morning while falling from his
pillow-top queen... It was a text-book fall, as you can see while I'm
panning out...... hang on a second...... this just in....... we have
another apparent sleeping accident up-town.... it is unclear as to
whether there are any fatalities, but we will bring you details, as
they become....... hang on a second..... folks.... we have another
one................."

Cheers!
Todd

[Montblack]

"three-eight-hotel"
> Can you imagine? "Joe Dirt died this morning while falling from his
> pillow-top queen... It was a text-book fall, as you can see while I'm
> panning out...... hang on a second...... this just in....... we have
> another apparent sleeping accident up-town.... it is unclear as to
> whether there are any fatalities, but we will bring you details, as
> they become....... hang on a second..... folks.... we have another
> one................."


They always automatically report it's a queen. It was, in fact, a full size
bed ...reporters!

Next they're going to tell me it was a Serta mattress, when it was clearly a
Sealy Posturepedic ....reporters!


Montblack