OT, but very interesting.

[Flyingmonk]

Cy, short for Cyclopes, a kitten born with only one eye and no nose, is

shown in this photo provided by its owner in Redmond, Oregon, on
Wednesday,
Dec. 28, 2005. The kitten, a ragdoll breed, which died after living for
one
day, was one of two in the litter. Its sibling was born normal and
healthy.
(AP Photo/Traci Allen)


http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=k3rl2w

The Monk

[Brien K. Meehan]

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/cyclopes.asp

Status: True

[George Patterson]

Flyingmonk wrote:

> Cy, short for Cyclopes, a kitten born with only one eye and no nose, is
> shown in this photo provided by its owner in Redmond, Oregon, on
> Wednesday,
> Dec. 28, 2005. The kitten, a ragdoll breed, which died after living for
> one
> day, was one of two in the litter.

So it was born with its eye open? I suspect Photoshop was involved in there
somewhere.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

[Peter Duniho]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:ufTxf.147$US3.76@trnddc04...
> So it was born with its eye open? I suspect Photoshop was involved in
> there somewhere.

I saw another post here on the question. Where was that? Oh, right...here
it is:

"Brien K. Meehan" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/cyclopes.asp
>
> Status: True

There has been similar discussion everywhere else on the Internet, including
similar information to that found on Snopes (explaining the well-documented
nature of this story).

I do find it amusing to see how many people feel that a newborn animal with
such an obvious defect must otherwise conform to every other aspect of a
normal birth. This isn't the first time I've seen the "but kittens aren't
born with their eyes open!" accusation. Well, kittens aren't usually born
with just one eye either.

All that said, the AP person who claims that faking the photo would be
"virtually impossible" doesn't have a good understanding of current
computational techniques. Rendering the photo digitally (not in Photoshop,
but using a high-quality 3D rendering engine, so that multiple angles can
easily be generated) wouldn't be out of the question, nor would matching the
supposed camera's photo file format (in fact, that part would be relatively
simple).

I doubt that's what's going on here...the whole thing seems plenty
plausible, so it's a lot of work to go to, to make a hoax that just matches
something that can happen in real life. But to say such a hoax would be
"virtually impossible" isn't correct either.

Pete

[Gig 601XL Builder]

"Peter Duniho" > wrote in message
...
> I do find it amusing to see how many people feel that a newborn animal
> with such an obvious defect must otherwise conform to every other aspect
> of a normal birth. This isn't the first time I've seen the "but kittens
> aren't born with their eyes open!" accusation. Well, kittens aren't
> usually born with just one eye either.


I hereby nominate this paragraph for the "logic is fun" statement of the
year.

Good work Peter.

[Andrew Gideon]

Peter Duniho wrote:

> Well, kittens aren't usually born
> with just one eye either.

A related defect is a lack of eyelid. That makes being born with closed
eyes a little tough.

- Andrew

[Matt Barrow]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:ufTxf.147$US3.76@trnddc04...
> Flyingmonk wrote:
>
>> Cy, short for Cyclopes, a kitten born with only one eye and no nose, is
>> shown in this photo provided by its owner in Redmond, Oregon, on
>> Wednesday,
>> Dec. 28, 2005. The kitten, a ragdoll breed, which died after living for
>> one
>> day, was one of two in the litter.
>
> So it was born with its eye open? I suspect Photoshop was involved in
> there somewhere.

Nope...read the snopes report; being born with the eye open is a common
trait of the mutation.

[Flyingmonk]

Wont their eyes (in this case, eye) open after a day anyways? Never
had a kitten that young before.

The Monk

[Brien K. Meehan]

That information is in the Snopes article referenced above.

[George Patterson]

Flyingmonk wrote:
> Wont their eyes (in this case, eye) open after a day anyways?

Takes about a week. Usually two before they're completely open.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

[Flyingmonk]

George:
>Takes about a week. Usually two before they're completely open.

OK... Thanks George. My lab had puppies about six years ago and I
thought that the eyes were open that day, but not sure. It's been a
while.

The Monk

[Flyingmonk]

>That information is in the Snopes article referenced above.

Thank you too Brien, I just scrolled down further and there it was
:^).

The Monk