C172 charter in LA

[Timo]

Hi

I have plans to visit the USA this September for 3 weeks. There i'd
like to charter a C172 for 12 to 14 days. Starting point would be LA
(California). Does anybody know a serious company or flight school
where it is possible to charter a C172 in the LA area?

Kind regards

Timo / Switzerland

[Larry Dighera]

On 24 Jan 2006 12:24:38 -0800, "Timo" > wrote in
. com>::

>I have plans to visit the USA this September for 3 weeks. There i'd
>like to charter a C172 for 12 to 14 days. Starting point would be LA
>(California). Does anybody know a serious company or flight school
>where it is possible to charter a C172 in the LA area?

Where will you be staying in LA?

[Ben Hallert]

Depends where you'll be in LA. Justice Aviation at Santa Monica
airport is about 5-10 miles north of LAX, and they have some nice
planes (including Cessna 172s). I received my primary instruction at
Skyward Aviation at the same airport in a Piper Cherokee, and they're
great too.

Ben Hallert
PP-ASEL

[cpu]

The best way to find out is to check the website

http://www.pilotage.com

And you can click on the "FBO, flight school and aviation service" and
click on the Aircraft Ride to find all the available charters in the
Southern Califiornia.

You can also click on the "Airports" to find out which airport is
closer to where you will stay.

[Mike Weller]

On 24 Jan 2006 12:24:38 -0800, "Timo" > wrote:

>Hi
>
>I have plans to visit the USA this September for 3 weeks. There i'd
>like to charter a C172 for 12 to 14 days. Starting point would be LA
>(California). Does anybody know a serious company or flight school
>where it is possible to charter a C172 in the LA area?
>
>Kind regards
>
>Timo / Switzerland

Hello Timo,

When I read the LA part of your message, I thought "Lower Alabama". I
fly in the Southeast part of America.

I would suggest Camarillo if you're in California. Nice people there.

Get a few maps of the area before you come.

Mike Weller

[John Huthmaker]

I live in Los Angeles. If you want to contact me directly I will be glad to
give you my humble opinion of all of the local FBO's. I live about 10
minutes (by freeway) from LAX. I have plenty of recomendations. Not to
knock Ben but I would not fly out of SMO (A little pricey for takeoffs and
landings). View my personal site for my contact info
www.cogentnetworking.com.

--
John Huthmaker
PPL-SEL P-28-161

http://www.cogentnetworking.com
"Timo" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Hi
>
> I have plans to visit the USA this September for 3 weeks. There i'd
> like to charter a C172 for 12 to 14 days. Starting point would be LA
> (California). Does anybody know a serious company or flight school
> where it is possible to charter a C172 in the LA area?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Timo / Switzerland
>

[Carlos Villalpando]

In article t>,
says...

> Not to knock Ben but I would not fly out of SMO (A little pricey for takeoffs
> takeoffs and landings).

The fee is per landing, not per takeoff, and it is at $2.07 per 1000 Max
gross weight, rounded down. So a 172 class aircraft is $4.14.

The landing fee is waived for aircraft based at SMO. So if he was
renting from an SMO FBO, the aircraft would hopefully be listed as based
at SMO, so you can land as many times as one would want at SMO.

It's not the tower collecting tail numbers. They don't care. According
to the FAA safety seminar I went to last fall with the SMO tower chief
as speaker, there's a city guy sitting in a truck next to the runway
with binoculars and a clip-pad taking down tail numbers. There's no way
to pay on the field. They look up the registered owner and mail the
bill there each month.

--Carlos V.

[Jay Honeck]

> It's not the tower collecting tail numbers. They don't care. According
> to the FAA safety seminar I went to last fall with the SMO tower chief
> as speaker, there's a city guy sitting in a truck next to the runway
> with binoculars and a clip-pad taking down tail numbers. There's no way
> to pay on the field. They look up the registered owner and mail the
> bill there each month.

Tell us again why anyone chooses to fly here?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Newps]

A little tape on the N number ought to solve that.



Carlos Villalpando wrote:

> In article t>,
> says...
>
>
>>Not to knock Ben but I would not fly out of SMO (A little pricey for takeoffs
>>takeoffs and landings).
>
>
> The fee is per landing, not per takeoff, and it is at $2.07 per 1000 Max
> gross weight, rounded down. So a 172 class aircraft is $4.14.
>
> The landing fee is waived for aircraft based at SMO. So if he was
> renting from an SMO FBO, the aircraft would hopefully be listed as based
> at SMO, so you can land as many times as one would want at SMO.
>
> It's not the tower collecting tail numbers. They don't care. According
> to the FAA safety seminar I went to last fall with the SMO tower chief
> as speaker, there's a city guy sitting in a truck next to the runway
> with binoculars and a clip-pad taking down tail numbers. There's no way
> to pay on the field. They look up the registered owner and mail the
> bill there each month.
>
> --Carlos V.
>
>
>

[Carlos Villalpando]

In article <4dKCf.760265$xm3.206675@attbi_s21>,
says...

> Tell us again why anyone chooses to fly here?

Blame the FAA for that. Originally, their landing fees exempted light
aircraft. They wanted to limit the heavy/loud jets because of
neighborhood complaints. When the jet types cried "No Fair!" the FAA
agreed and told SMO that if they were going to have a fee, it must touch
everybody.

--Carlos V.

[George Patterson]

Carlos Villalpando wrote:

> They look up the registered owner and mail the
> bill there each month.

That's going to be interesting if my old Maule ever lands there. As far as I can
tell from the databases, the new owner never re-registered it. It shows up as
"sale reported."

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

[cpu]

>A little tape on the N number ought to solve that.

You mean to alter or cover the N number? No. it won't work. SMO is a
towered airport. According to my knowledge from the SMO guys...the fee
is collected for every time wheels tough the ground. A person sitting
in a pickup truck with radio watches whether the plane is tough the
ground on the runway. Therefore, it is free for go-around but if you
stay in pattern for 3 touch and goes, then you pay 3X landing fee.
There is no fee for home based aircrafts and flight school, only the
outsiders.

[Jay Honeck]

> You mean to alter or cover the N number? No. it won't work. SMO is a
> towered airport. According to my knowledge from the SMO guys...the fee
> is collected for every time wheels tough the ground. A person sitting
> in a pickup truck with radio watches whether the plane is tough the
> ground on the runway. Therefore, it is free for go-around but if you
> stay in pattern for 3 touch and goes, then you pay 3X landing fee.
> There is no fee for home based aircrafts and flight school, only the
> outsiders.

That is the most unfair, ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I can't
believe your airport commission (or whatever is running this Mickey Mouse
operation) allows it. I'd be protesting that policy to everyone who would
listen, regardless of their "you don't have to pay" self-bribery.

If you local guys don't fight it, and if other airports see your airport
successfully raising money by shafting transient aircraft, that kind of
horse-**** policy WILL spread -- and then all we'll be able to do is fly
circles over our home field all day.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[NW_PILOT]

"cpu" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> >A little tape on the N number ought to solve that.
>
> You mean to alter or cover the N number? No. it won't work. SMO is a
> towered airport. According to my knowledge from the SMO guys...the fee
> is collected for every time wheels tough the ground. A person sitting
> in a pickup truck with radio watches whether the plane is tough the
> ground on the runway. Therefore, it is free for go-around but if you
> stay in pattern for 3 touch and goes, then you pay 3X landing fee.
> There is no fee for home based aircrafts and flight school, only the
> outsiders.
>

So the dork in the truck is going to count the poor student pilot on his
solo X/C that bounces 4 times in 1 landing and is going to bill him 4
landing fees?

[Big John]

Jay

This was normal at my field a few years before the end. It also
included the flight schools there who were prohibited from teaching
students with touch and goes. They had to go to other fields to shoot
practice landings.

Reason given was there were enough commercial jets (Oil Companies)
based there and who paid big dollars and they didn't want the extra
runway use.They threatened to move and take money with them.

Old Pilot (who built field died) and his wife who then ran the field
finally died and kids sold to developers who closed the field and gave
eviction notices to all and you know what happened :o(

Now high dollare condo's for the rich. Ain't progress nice ...........

So be it.

Big John
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:50:09 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>> You mean to alter or cover the N number? No. it won't work. SMO is a
>> towered airport. According to my knowledge from the SMO guys...the fee
>> is collected for every time wheels tough the ground. A person sitting
>> in a pickup truck with radio watches whether the plane is tough the
>> ground on the runway. Therefore, it is free for go-around but if you
>> stay in pattern for 3 touch and goes, then you pay 3X landing fee.
>> There is no fee for home based aircrafts and flight school, only the
>> outsiders.
>
>That is the most unfair, ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I can't
>believe your airport commission (or whatever is running this Mickey Mouse
>operation) allows it. I'd be protesting that policy to everyone who would
>listen, regardless of their "you don't have to pay" self-bribery.
>
>If you local guys don't fight it, and if other airports see your airport
>successfully raising money by shafting transient aircraft, that kind of
>horse-**** policy WILL spread -- and then all we'll be able to do is fly
>circles over our home field all day.

[cpu]

> I can't believe your airport commission ...
>If you local guys don't fight it, and if other airports see your airport

It is not my homebase. Sadly I have to pay in order to get to the
SMO's most fameous restaurent Typhoon
(http://www.typhoon-restaurant.com/home.html). You can regular meet
the KTLA Channel 5's anchor Hal Fishman in there. (He appeared in the
movie One-Six Right) SMO is his home base, and many of Hollywood Stars
( Bill Cosby, Harison Ford,...)

I don't think they cares.