Shelds up!

[John]

Juan Jimenez wrote:

> Get off earthlink and get a free gmail account.
>
You really think gmail will stop spam. gmail/google and yahoo are too of the
biggest sources of it!
John

[Richard Lamb]

Well, I guess that's the way the world works.

I've had this account up for a couple of weeks and
have started receiving the same old spam loaded
with viruses.

Last year, one somehow got through and perty well
ruined the whole day.

So, for a while at least, I'm raising my shields to
max (one reason I picked Earthlink).

I don't have everybody listed in my address book yet.

So anyone sending a legitimate email will likely receive
a reply advising them how to complete the contact.

Sorry about this.

But I'm not going through that mess again.


Ta.

Richard

[Mike Gaskins]

One of my main job responsibilities is admining our email system at
work, and I can tell you truthfully that auto-challenge systems (which
you seem to imply you're using) are not a good thing to put into place.
At best, you're going to tick off a lot of people who truly want to
communicate with you; done on an organization wide basis it can even
land a company's email server on a blacklist (ie, people who check the
RBL server will refuse to deliver messages sent by you).

If you want to drop the spam without resorting to auto-challenge
systems, you would do well to look into SpamAssasssin (it's free).
I've got it checking our incoming mail (along with my home mail
accounts). It uses a multi-tiered approach (blacklisting, RBL's,
content rules, bayesian analysis, online tests w/ DCC & Razor) that
does a LOT to help block it. I've also got my Postfix MTA set to use
greylisting. This combined with a freeware virus scanner has
eliminated over 99% of our incoming spam, and it's literally been
months since I got a spam message at home.

Try it out.

Mike Gaskins

[Juan Jimenez]

Get off earthlink and get a free gmail account.

"Richard Lamb" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Well, I guess that's the way the world works.
>
> I've had this account up for a couple of weeks and
> have started receiving the same old spam loaded
> with viruses.
>
> Last year, one somehow got through and perty well
> ruined the whole day.
>
> So, for a while at least, I'm raising my shields to
> max (one reason I picked Earthlink).
>
> I don't have everybody listed in my address book yet.
>
> So anyone sending a legitimate email will likely receive
> a reply advising them how to complete the contact.
>
> Sorry about this.
>
> But I'm not going through that mess again.
>
>
> Ta.
>
> Richard
>

[Richard Lamb]

Mike Gaskins wrote:

> One of my main job responsibilities is admining our email system at
> work, and I can tell you truthfully that auto-challenge systems (which
> you seem to imply you're using) are not a good thing to put into place.
> At best, you're going to tick off a lot of people who truly want to
> communicate with you; done on an organization wide basis it can even
> land a company's email server on a blacklist (ie, people who check the
> RBL server will refuse to deliver messages sent by you).
>
> If you want to drop the spam without resorting to auto-challenge
> systems, you would do well to look into SpamAssasssin (it's free).
> I've got it checking our incoming mail (along with my home mail
> accounts). It uses a multi-tiered approach (blacklisting, RBL's,
> content rules, bayesian analysis, online tests w/ DCC & Razor) that
> does a LOT to help block it. I've also got my Postfix MTA set to use
> greylisting. This combined with a freeware virus scanner has
> eliminated over 99% of our incoming spam, and it's literally been
> months since I got a spam message at home.
>
> Try it out.
>
> Mike Gaskins
>

Thanks Mike, I'll check into it.

With POP3 service the mail comes right to your computer.
Once there, it is difficult to deal with - without "opening" it.

This might be the answer...


Richard

[Richard Lamb]

Juan Jimenez wrote:

> Get off earthlink and get a free gmail account.
>

More?

[Big John]

Richard

Have you tried MailWasher? They have a free version.

You look at mail before you let it download to your computer. You can
see who it is from and Msg text.

Can Blacklist or ident as Frind by address or domain before it
downloads.

You also should have a good Virus program on your computer.

Both my dial up and Road Runner have virus scanning in them and stop a
lot that might kill my computer.

Lots of ways to reduce the risk but no 100% I have heard of :o(

Big John
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` `````````



On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:44:53 GMT, Richard Lamb
> wrote:

>Mike Gaskins wrote:
>
>> One of my main job responsibilities is admining our email system at
>> work, and I can tell you truthfully that auto-challenge systems (which
>> you seem to imply you're using) are not a good thing to put into place.
>> At best, you're going to tick off a lot of people who truly want to
>> communicate with you; done on an organization wide basis it can even
>> land a company's email server on a blacklist (ie, people who check the
>> RBL server will refuse to deliver messages sent by you).
>>
>> If you want to drop the spam without resorting to auto-challenge
>> systems, you would do well to look into SpamAssasssin (it's free).
>> I've got it checking our incoming mail (along with my home mail
>> accounts). It uses a multi-tiered approach (blacklisting, RBL's,
>> content rules, bayesian analysis, online tests w/ DCC & Razor) that
>> does a LOT to help block it. I've also got my Postfix MTA set to use
>> greylisting. This combined with a freeware virus scanner has
>> eliminated over 99% of our incoming spam, and it's literally been
>> months since I got a spam message at home.
>>
>> Try it out.
>>
>> Mike Gaskins
>>
>
>Thanks Mike, I'll check into it.
>
>With POP3 service the mail comes right to your computer.
>Once there, it is difficult to deal with - without "opening" it.
>
>This might be the answer...
>
>
>Richard

[Montblack]

("Mike Gaskins" wrote)
[snip]
> If you want to drop the spam without resorting to auto-challenge
> systems, you would do well to look into SpamAssasssin (it's free).
> I've got it checking our incoming mail (along with my home mail
> accounts). It uses a multi-tiered approach (blacklisting, RBL's,
> content rules, bayesian analysis, online tests w/ DCC & Razor) that
> does a LOT to help block it. I've also got my Postfix MTA set to use
> greylisting. This combined with a freeware virus scanner has
> eliminated over 99% of our incoming spam, and it's literally been
> months since I got a spam message at home.


Our ISP is now using Postini. We're very happy with the results.
http://www.postini.com/

I got flagged just today. I checked in with Postini, through the e-mail link
they send, and saw it was my own yahoo.com messages. I had recently sent a
few saved messages to my home e-mail account.

I <clicked> Approve Sender (me!) and all was good again. 4 years ago we were
getting 10-20 per day, now we're down around 5 spams a month.

When Postini first kicked in we only lost a couple of people. We checked
daily for known addresses before deleting the junk. Now it's on autopilot.


Montblack

[Mike Gaskins]

You can "pull" POP3 mail into a system to process it further.

I'm guessing you're running a Windows system, and most of these are
Unix utilities, but IIRC most have Windows versions out there. My
home setup is to use fetchmail on a cron-job. Every 5 minutes it goes
out, checks my two POP3 servers for new mail, and grabs if present. It
then hands the mail off to Postfix via SMTP for processing and at this
point it behaves just as if you were running your own mail server.
Postfix uses Amavisd-new along with SpamAssasin and ClamAV for
spam/virus filtering.

Messages that fail these tests are quarantined and I never even see
them unless I specifically go and look. Messages that pass are given
to procmail for local delivery and sorting. I then run Dovecot as an
IMAP server so that I can access the mail with any mail program of my
choosing.

This not only affords good spam protection, but I can also check my
email from any computer in the house and pull up the same set of
messages. I also have setup a webmail system (Roundcube) that accesses
the IMAP server, so that I can also check my email remotely just as
easily. You don't have to go quite this elaborate (if I'm not mistaken
fetchmail can hand directly to procmail which can invoke SpamAssasin if
you like), but the tools are out there to help. All of the ones
mentioned here are also free of charge, as well as open source so you
can make changes to the program if you like.

Mike Gaskins

[Frank Stutzman]

Juan Jimenez > wrote:
> Get off earthlink and get a free gmail account.

Get off a virus vulnerable operating system.

Seriously. A Salvation Army $30 pc running a lightweight version of Linux or an old second hand Mac is more than
sufficient for email and usenet. Probably good enough even for most web browsing. Way cheaper than all the
anti-malware you can buy, especially when you consider the on-going subscription prices.

yes, I know there is free anti-virus available, but its using your compute power to run. Much better to not have
the problem to begin with than have to band-aide it.

BTW, I am not trying to start an OT OS religious war. I am the system and network administrator for a 200+ node
medical clinic. Due to our applications, we have to run Windows of various flavors. There is no way, though, that
I allow any of these systems to touch the internet, nor do I allow external media (floppies, CD ROMS) on site
without my approval.
--
Frank Stutzman

[Gig 601XL Builder]

I've got several gmail invitations left if anyone would like one let me
know.



"Richard Lamb" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>
>> Get off earthlink and get a free gmail account.
>>
>
> More?

[Richard Lamb]

Mike Gaskins wrote:
> You can "pull" POP3 mail into a system to process it further.
>
> I'm guessing you're running a Windows system, and most of these are
> Unix utilities, but IIRC most have Windows versions out there. My
> home setup is to use fetchmail on a cron-job. Every 5 minutes it goes
> out, checks my two POP3 servers for new mail, and grabs if present. It
> then hands the mail off to Postfix via SMTP for processing and at this
> point it behaves just as if you were running your own mail server.
> Postfix uses Amavisd-new along with SpamAssasin and ClamAV for
> spam/virus filtering.
>
> Messages that fail these tests are quarantined and I never even see
> them unless I specifically go and look. Messages that pass are given
> to procmail for local delivery and sorting. I then run Dovecot as an
> IMAP server so that I can access the mail with any mail program of my
> choosing.
>
> This not only affords good spam protection, but I can also check my
> email from any computer in the house and pull up the same set of
> messages. I also have setup a webmail system (Roundcube) that accesses
> the IMAP server, so that I can also check my email remotely just as
> easily. You don't have to go quite this elaborate (if I'm not mistaken
> fetchmail can hand directly to procmail which can invoke SpamAssasin if
> you like), but the tools are out there to help. All of the ones
> mentioned here are also free of charge, as well as open source so you
> can make changes to the program if you like.
>
> Mike Gaskins
>

Now that is helpful information, Mike. Thank you.

Yes, this is a win98se box with Netscape 7.2 for browsing.

Postfix sounds like what I've wanted/needed for quite a while.
Will snoop around for a win version.

I'm also considering moving to Linux; damBillGatestosoftwarehell.

In the mean time, though, I think I'm going to leave the shields up.
Too many Romulans among the Klingon crowd.


A few years back, when I was on FlashNet I had an "experience".

One of those critters managed to get through and took up residence
on my computer. None of the AV utilities detected it.

But anytime the phone line was open, the poor computer spat email
viruses all over the place. (it WAS a clue...)

I finally got it cleaned off - but went back to the stone ages to
do it.

With a clean machine, I got back on the net, and found I was being
flooded with email containing viruses. FlashNet had 11 meg inbox -
which was filling up in 45 minutes flat.

Man, talk about feeling picked on!


Richard

I know I'm a little paranoid,
but am I paranoid enough?

[Richard Lamb]

Frank Stutzman wrote:

> Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>
>>Get off earthlink and get a free gmail account.
>
>
> Get off a virus vulnerable operating system.
> snip
> --
> Frank Stutzman
>

Gladly, venerable master.
But this one is unenlightened.

I have an Ubuntu setup disk coming because it was
recommended by a friend.
(might outta go check the snail box today)

There are some windoze apps that I am emotionally attached to.
Cad mainly.
The rest can be easily replaced.
Found a link that reputedly would allow well behaved (their
words - not mine) windows applications to run under Linux.

Like many people, I feel like I'm caught in "the only game in town"

Without knowledgeable guidance, well, there's only google...


Richard

[Richard Lamb]

Web mail address book updated easy enough.

Sorry Corky, you were just too fast for me.


Richard

[.Blueskies.]

Right click the suspect mail in Outlook Express (Never have the preview turned on!) and select properties. Click details
tab then message source, scroll down through to see if it looks legit. That is my way to get through the last 1% that
still seems to leak through all the filters...


"Richard Lamb" > wrote in message ink.net...
> Mike Gaskins wrote:
>
>> One of my main job responsibilities is admining our email system at
>> work, and I can tell you truthfully that auto-challenge systems (which
>> you seem to imply you're using) are not a good thing to put into place.
>> At best, you're going to tick off a lot of people who truly want to
>> communicate with you; done on an organization wide basis it can even
>> land a company's email server on a blacklist (ie, people who check the
>> RBL server will refuse to deliver messages sent by you).
>>
>> If you want to drop the spam without resorting to auto-challenge
>> systems, you would do well to look into SpamAssasssin (it's free).
>> I've got it checking our incoming mail (along with my home mail
>> accounts). It uses a multi-tiered approach (blacklisting, RBL's,
>> content rules, bayesian analysis, online tests w/ DCC & Razor) that
>> does a LOT to help block it. I've also got my Postfix MTA set to use
>> greylisting. This combined with a freeware virus scanner has
>> eliminated over 99% of our incoming spam, and it's literally been
>> months since I got a spam message at home.
>>
>> Try it out. Mike Gaskins
>>
>
> Thanks Mike, I'll check into it.
>
> With POP3 service the mail comes right to your computer.
> Once there, it is difficult to deal with - without "opening" it.
>
> This might be the answer...
>
>
> Richard

[Richard Lamb]

..Blueskies. wrote:
> Right click the suspect mail in Outlook Express (Never have the preview turned on!) and select properties. Click details
> tab then message source, scroll down through to see if it looks legit. That is my way to get through the last 1% that
> still seems to leak through all the filters...
>
>

Right click on the suspect main - in WhAt? ;)

But it works in Netscape too.

Thanks for the tip, stranger.

Richard

[Dave S]

Mike Gaskins wrote:
> One of my main job responsibilities is admining our email system at
> work, and I can tell you truthfully that auto-challenge systems (which
> you seem to imply you're using) are not a good thing to put into place.

I have used earthlink and its spam-blocker with good success for
over a year. The key: I set it to send me a summary DAILY of senders and
subjects blocked. If I see something I want to check out, I check it in
WEBMAIL and if its legit, then I click to add.

I would venture to say only 30% of legitimate, desireable senders use
the auto-challenge to send me an allowed senders request. BUT.. it keeps
30-50 emails a DAY off my machine (the virus laden, spam laden ones)

So.. Richard, while the setup you are using is not a good idea for
someplace that does high volume business email, for people like you and
me, its not a bad deal at all. Just check the webmail for blocked
messages, and once you add someone its not blocked again.

Dave

[Richard Lamb]

Dave S wrote:

> Mike Gaskins wrote:
>
>> One of my main job responsibilities is admining our email system at
>> work, and I can tell you truthfully that auto-challenge systems (which
>> you seem to imply you're using) are not a good thing to put into place.
>
>
> I have used earthlink and its spam-blocker with good success for over
> a year. The key: I set it to send me a summary DAILY of senders and
> subjects blocked. If I see something I want to check out, I check it in
> WEBMAIL and if its legit, then I click to add.
>
> I would venture to say only 30% of legitimate, desireable senders use
> the auto-challenge to send me an allowed senders request. BUT.. it keeps
> 30-50 emails a DAY off my machine (the virus laden, spam laden ones)
>
> So.. Richard, while the setup you are using is not a good idea for
> someplace that does high volume business email, for people like you and
> me, its not a bad deal at all. Just check the webmail for blocked
> messages, and once you add someone its not blocked again.
>
> Dave
>

Done done it, Dave.

Got the address book uploaded easily.

Even used the notice link to add one early bird
..
I noticed that reading web mail did not remove the mail from the
server, so it was still available for pop3 download.
That's nice.

Maybe there is life after the internet?


Richard

[guynoir]

Richard Lamb wrote:
> Well, I guess that's the way the world works.
>
> I've had this account up for a couple of weeks and
> have started receiving the same old spam loaded
> with viruses.
>
> Last year, one somehow got through and perty well
> ruined the whole day.
>
> So, for a while at least, I'm raising my shields to
> max (one reason I picked Earthlink).
>
> I don't have everybody listed in my address book yet.
>
> So anyone sending a legitimate email will likely receive
> a reply advising them how to complete the contact.
>
> Sorry about this.
>
> But I'm not going through that mess again.
>
>
> Ta.
>
> Richard
>


First, go to:
https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Run their scan.

They will tell you which ports are open (very bad), which are
responding, and which are in "stealth" mode. They will try to scare you
into buying their security software. Go ahead and buy it if it makes
you feel more secure.

Next, install Zone Labs "Zonealarm" firewall (it's free), and have your
computer scanned again to see what a difference it makes. Be sure to
run a scan before you install Zonealarm so you'll see just how open and
insecure your computer was.

Next, download "Spybot" (it's free) and run it on your computer.

A good, free anti-virus software is AVG.

You are, of course, regularly backing up all your data, aren't you? A
good (free) program for that is Syncback. A good but not free program
for that was Ghost. Now it's Symmantic-Norton Ghost, so it may have
turned into a piece of crap. It's too early for me to tell yet.

Finally, broadcasting your real email address on usenet is an open
invitation for spam. So change your email address now and use a phony
or coded email address like I and many others do. I consider using
Microsoft Outlook an open invitation for viruses, too, but that opinion
was formed several years ago and I'm sure they've improved their
security since then.

I haven't gotten ANY spam in the last two years, and I haven't had a
computer virus ever in the last ten years that I've been online.

--
John Kimmel


I think it will be quiet around here now. So long.

[Richard Lamb]

guynoir wrote:

>> Richard
>
> Finally, broadcasting your real email address on usenet is an open
> invitation for spam. So change your email address now and use a phony
> or coded email address like I and many others do. I consider using
> Microsoft Outlook an open invitation for viruses, too, but that opinion
> was formed several years ago and I'm sure they've improved their
> security since then.
>
> I haven't gotten ANY spam in the last two years, and I haven't had a
> computer virus ever in the last ten years that I've been online.
>

?

[Richard Lamb]

guynoir wrote:

> Finally, broadcasting your real email address on usenet is an open
> invitation for spam. So change your email address now and use a phony
> or coded email address like I and many others do. I consider using
> Microsoft Outlook an open invitation for viruses, too, but that opinion
> was formed several years ago and I'm sure they've improved their
> security since then.
>
> I haven't gotten ANY spam in the last two years, and I haven't had a
> computer virus ever in the last ten years that I've been online.
>

Well, I hate sounding like a rube here, guy,
but for the general betterment of all mankind,
I'll bite...

I can mangle my address. Make it Xcavelamb@somesuch.
But then it's a non working address, unless corrected.
Confuses the hell outta my Mom. (?)

YOURS, on the other hand, seems to work properly.
At least it didn't bounce as returned mail.

So, guy, what's the trick?

How do you pull that rabbit out of that hat?


Richard?

[john smith]

> First, go to:
> https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

John, for more security information go to
www.grc.com/securitynow.htm

There are program transcripts and audio downloads for 24 programs.
You will learn things that you have been previously taught that are
wrong.

[Cy Galley]

Mail washer doesn't let POP 3 mail on to your machine while to scan and
check it out. You can even read it with out loading on your machine.


"Richard Lamb" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Mike Gaskins wrote:
>
>> One of my main job responsibilities is admining our email system at
>> work, and I can tell you truthfully that auto-challenge systems (which
>> you seem to imply you're using) are not a good thing to put into place.
>> At best, you're going to tick off a lot of people who truly want to
>> communicate with you; done on an organization wide basis it can even
>> land a company's email server on a blacklist (ie, people who check the
>> RBL server will refuse to deliver messages sent by you).
>>
>> If you want to drop the spam without resorting to auto-challenge
>> systems, you would do well to look into SpamAssasssin (it's free).
>> I've got it checking our incoming mail (along with my home mail
>> accounts). It uses a multi-tiered approach (blacklisting, RBL's,
>> content rules, bayesian analysis, online tests w/ DCC & Razor) that
>> does a LOT to help block it. I've also got my Postfix MTA set to use
>> greylisting. This combined with a freeware virus scanner has
>> eliminated over 99% of our incoming spam, and it's literally been
>> months since I got a spam message at home.
>>
>> Try it out. Mike Gaskins
>>
>
> Thanks Mike, I'll check into it.
>
> With POP3 service the mail comes right to your computer.
> Once there, it is difficult to deal with - without "opening" it.
>
> This might be the answer...
>
>
> Richard

[guynoir]

Richard Lamb wrote:
> guynoir wrote:
>
>> Finally, broadcasting your real email address on usenet is an open
>> invitation for spam. So change your email address now and use a phony
>> or coded email address like I and many others do. I consider using
>> Microsoft Outlook an open invitation for viruses, too, but that
>> opinion was formed several years ago and I'm sure they've improved
>> their security since then.
>>
>> I haven't gotten ANY spam in the last two years, and I haven't had a
>> computer virus ever in the last ten years that I've been online.
>>
>
> Well, I hate sounding like a rube here, guy,
> but for the general betterment of all mankind,
> I'll bite...
>
> I can mangle my address. Make it Xcavelamb@somesuch.
> But then it's a non working address, unless corrected.
> Confuses the hell outta my Mom. (?)
>
> YOURS, on the other hand, seems to work properly.
> At least it didn't bounce as returned mail.
>
> So, guy, what's the trick?
>
> How do you pull that rabbit out of that hat?
>
>
> Richard?

Richard,

You are broadcasting your email address across the internet for any
spambot to collect. Usenet is the most fertile ground for spambots to
find unguarded email addresses like yours. If your email address is
listed on somebody's web page, that's another resource for a spambot to
harvest.

Look at how Orval Fairbairn and Richard Riley cypher their email
addressses. Theirs are done correctly. I'm sorry that my email address
_seems_ to work properly for you. That's because my cyphered email
address was done incorrectly (I've changed it). Read why here:

http://www.turnstep.com/Spambot/avoidance.html#NOT

I'm not an internet security expert. All I know is: I haven't had any
spam since I started cyphering my email address. I don't do anything
else to filter out spam. Anybody with a high enough IQ can send me an
email and I will get it.

When I send personal emails, I don't cypher my email address, and my
email program knows automatically whether to use the cyphered or
uncyphered version.



--
John Kimmel


Sometimes Pascal seemed to have had a bandage over his eyes.

[Richard Lamb]

guynoir wrote:

> Richard Lamb wrote:
>
>> guynoir wrote:
>>
>>
> Richard,
>
> You are broadcasting your email address across the internet for any
> spambot to collect. Usenet is the most fertile ground for spambots to
> find unguarded email addresses like yours. If your email address is
> listed on somebody's web page, that's another resource for a spambot to
> harvest.
>
> Look at how Orval Fairbairn and Richard Riley cypher their email
> addressses. Theirs are done correctly. I'm sorry that my email address
> _seems_ to work properly for you. That's because my cyphered email
> address was done incorrectly (I've changed it). Read why here:
>
> http://www.turnstep.com/Spambot/avoidance.html#NOT
>
> I'm not an internet security expert. All I know is: I haven't had any
> spam since I started cyphering my email address. I don't do anything
> else to filter out spam. Anybody with a high enough IQ can send me an
> email and I will get it.
>
> When I send personal emails, I don't cypher my email address, and my
> email program knows automatically whether to use the cyphered or
> uncyphered version.
>


Let's see if this is better?

Xearthlink does not seem to exist (per instructions)


Richard

[Richard Lamb]

Richard Lamb wrote:

> Let's see if this is better?
>
> Xearthlink does not seem to exist (per instructions)
>
>
> Richard
>

but any embedded spaces seem to cause smtp to burp ???

[JKimmel]

Richard Lamb wrote:
> Richard Lamb wrote:
>
>> Let's see if this is better?
>>
>> Xearthlink does not seem to exist (per instructions)
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>
> but any embedded spaces seem to cause smtp to burp ???
>
Richard,

Keep in mind that it won't do you any good to cypher an email address at
which you are already getting spam. That email address is already
compromised.

I occasionally get commercial email from companies to whom I've given my
email address as part of an order, or to register for something. This
is not spam because it isn't "unsolicited", and they take me off their
mailing list if I ask them to.

Eventually, I expect my current email addresses to become compromised,
and I'll have to change them.

You can make it easier for people to email you by writing instructions
into your sig line.

--
J Kimmel

www.metalinnovations.com

"Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum." - When you have
their full attention in your grip, their hearts and minds will follow.

[Richard Lamb]

JKimmel wrote:

> Keep in mind that it won't do you any good to cypher an email address at
> which you are already getting spam. That email address is already
> compromised.
>
> I occasionally get commercial email from companies to whom I've given my
> email address as part of an order, or to register for something. This
> is not spam because it isn't "unsolicited", and they take me off their
> mailing list if I ask them to.
>
> Eventually, I expect my current email addresses to become compromised,
> and I'll have to change them.
>
> You can make it easier for people to email you by writing instructions
> into your sig line.
>

Thanks, J.


Something like ...

Richard

to reply - remove the X ?

probably need to put it in the sig file...


Man! Cyber space is so scary I nearly downloaded in my pants!