All good for two more years.

[Jay Beckman]

3rd Class medical renewed today...all good!

BP Good (lower than two years ago) ... I'd like to think going without a
smoke for nearly two months now is having a positive impact...as is not
having gained any weight due to said smoking cessation...

I do have this restriction regarding eyewear for near vision though ...
turning 45 sucks.

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
AZ Cloudbusters
Chandler, AZ

[Flyingmonk]

I thought it was good for three years, no?

Anyhow, congrats!

The Monk

[Montblack]

("Flyingmonk" wrote)
>I thought it was good for three years, no?


J.B. = 45

2 years for old farts.


Montblack
46 next Friday ...happy birthday to me!

[Dudley Henriques]

"Jay Beckman" > wrote in message
news:5ZcCf.15017$jR.1199@fed1read01...
> 3rd Class medical renewed today...all good!
>
> BP Good (lower than two years ago) ... I'd like to think going without a
> smoke for nearly two months now is having a positive impact...as is not
> having gained any weight due to said smoking cessation...
>
> I do have this restriction regarding eyewear for near vision though ...
> turning 45 sucks.

Must be that clean air out there in Arizona :-)

Dudley

[Jay Beckman]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Flyingmonk" wrote)
>>I thought it was good for three years, no?
>
>
> J.B. = 45
>
> 2 years for old farts.
>
>
> Montblack
> 46 next Friday ...happy birthday to me!

Actually 45 on Feb 10 ... happy birthday to you and me!

(Old Fart? I'll grow older but I refuse to *ever* grow up!!)

[Aluckyguess]

46 on the 30th
"Jay Beckman" > wrote in message
news:AvfCf.15084$jR.9003@fed1read01...
> "Montblack" > wrote in message
> ...
>> ("Flyingmonk" wrote)
>>>I thought it was good for three years, no?
>>
>>
>> J.B. = 45
>>
>> 2 years for old farts.
>>
>>
>> Montblack
>> 46 next Friday ...happy birthday to me!
>
> Actually 45 on Feb 10 ... happy birthday to you and me!
>
> (Old Fart? I'll grow older but I refuse to *ever* grow up!!)
>

[Dudley Henriques]

"Jay Beckman" > wrote in message
news:OwfCf.15085$jR.9217@fed1read01...

> I'm gonna hang my hat on the "no longer a smoker" peg...just give me more
> amunition to keep being an ex smoker!

Walking through a hotel lobby where a medical convention on cancer was being
held and passing a full size display board that was 4 feet by 8 feet showing
a color photograph of someone's lungs who had died from lung cancer after
smoking for only ten years did the trick for me!
Dudley

[Matt Whiting]

Jay Beckman wrote:

> "Montblack" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>("Flyingmonk" wrote)
>>
>>>I thought it was good for three years, no?
>>
>>
>>J.B. = 45
>>
>>2 years for old farts.
>>
>>
>>Montblack
>>46 next Friday ...happy birthday to me!
>
>
> Actually 45 on Feb 10 ... happy birthday to you and me!
>
> (Old Fart? I'll grow older but I refuse to *ever* grow up!!)

Yes, I chose to grow out rather than up. :-(


Matt

[Flyingmonk]

Big 40 feb 15th.

The Monk

[Flyingmonk]

>J.B. = 45
>2 years for old farts.
>Montblack
>46 next Friday ...happy birthday to me!

I see, what's the cut off age? Which next Friday, tomorrow?

The Monk

[George Patterson]

Jay Beckman wrote:

> I'm gonna hang my hat on the "no longer a smoker" peg...just give me more
> amunition to keep being an ex smoker!

One of the bullets they gave us at the last stop-smoking clinic I attended
(that's the one that worked, by the way) was this. Collect a bunch of buts from
an ashtray. Get a Mason jar about half full. Then fill it halfway with water, so
they're all good & soggy and put the lid on. Anytime you want a cig, open the
lid and take a whif.

"But when your bass player's flat, and your drummer drags ... don't you wish you
had a fag?"

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

[Jay Honeck]

>> I'm gonna hang my hat on the "no longer a smoker" peg...just give me more
>> amunition to keep being an ex smoker!
>
> One of the bullets they gave us at the last stop-smoking clinic I attended
> (that's the one that worked, by the way) was this. Collect a bunch of buts
> from an ashtray. Get a Mason jar about half full. Then fill it halfway
> with water, so they're all good & soggy and put the lid on. Anytime you
> want a cig, open the lid and take a whif.

Smoking is the damndest addiction. I haven't had a cigarette since New
Year's Day 1986. Not even one. I was smoking 2.5 packs of Marlboro
Menthols per day then, and just quit, cold turkey, after watching my
father-in-law waste away to 85 pounds before dying of lung cancer.

I despise smoking, and am appalled to say that most smokers are slobs. No
one does more damage to our property, I can't stand what smokers do to our
hotel, and I can't stand the way I stink when I get home from a bar full of
smokers.

Yet -- despite all that -- sometimes I REALLY want a smoke. Still.

Good job quitting, Jay, you'll never regret it, but remember -- as with any
true addiction, you never really get over it, mentally. Stay on guard, and
don't ever, EVER even have one again.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[nrp]

My brother & I bought our 1975 Cessna 172M new, justifying it to our
wives then by noting we hadn't smoked for the previous 20 years
(actually never) & now we wanted to spend the money we had saved.
Somehow they let us do it. I had to buy out his half when he developed
MS a few years ago.

The amount I spend on it including hangar, insurance maintenance etc is
about what a 2 pack/day smoker would spend on cigarettes. We didn't
figure on the value going up like it has. I still look at heavy
smokers & think that owning an airplane is a helluva lot more fun.

[Jay Beckman]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:t5hCf.735401$_o.263844@attbi_s71...
>>> I'm gonna hang my hat on the "no longer a smoker" peg...just give me
>>> more amunition to keep being an ex smoker!
>>
>> One of the bullets they gave us at the last stop-smoking clinic I
>> attended (that's the one that worked, by the way) was this. Collect a
>> bunch of buts from an ashtray. Get a Mason jar about half full. Then fill
>> it halfway with water, so they're all good & soggy and put the lid on.
>> Anytime you want a cig, open the lid and take a whif.
>
> Smoking is the damndest addiction. I haven't had a cigarette since New
> Year's Day 1986. Not even one. I was smoking 2.5 packs of Marlboro
> Menthols per day then, and just quit, cold turkey, after watching my
> father-in-law waste away to 85 pounds before dying of lung cancer.
>
> I despise smoking, and am appalled to say that most smokers are slobs. No
> one does more damage to our property, I can't stand what smokers do to our
> hotel, and I can't stand the way I stink when I get home from a bar full
> of smokers.
>
> Yet -- despite all that -- sometimes I REALLY want a smoke. Still.
>
> Good job quitting, Jay, you'll never regret it, but remember -- as with
> any true addiction, you never really get over it, mentally. Stay on
> guard, and don't ever, EVER even have one again.
> --
> Jay Honeck

I have a very close friend who is a 12-stepper and recovering addict (C/S
for almost 12 years now...God bless him...) who was very involved with a
halfway house for those in similar situations and told me that they had
success getting people off booze, off pills, off coke, off heroin, off just
about anything to which you can become addicted ... except cigarettes. The
only way off nicotine is to just want off.

Thank you for the encouragement.

Jay B

[Jay Beckman]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:iMgCf.24018$AV.11572@trnddc07...
> Jay Beckman wrote:
>
>> I'm gonna hang my hat on the "no longer a smoker" peg...just give me more
>> amunition to keep being an ex smoker!
>
> One of the bullets they gave us at the last stop-smoking clinic I attended
> (that's the one that worked, by the way) was this. Collect a bunch of buts
> from an ashtray. Get a Mason jar about half full. Then fill it halfway
> with water, so they're all good & soggy and put the lid on. Anytime you
> want a cig, open the lid and take a whif.

I have left myself one not so subtle reminder and that is an ashtray out in
the garage (I've never smoked inside our current house ... it was always
outside) that is so covered in ash and tar that it will never come clean.

I just tell myself that THAT isn't going in my body any more!

Jay B

[Montblack]

("Flyingmonk" wrote)
> I see, what's the cut off age? Which next Friday, tomorrow?


This + next. Groundhog's Day (Thur) +1.

http://experimentalairplane.com/learn-to-fly.html
"Usually issued as a combined "Student Pilot License / Third Class Medical
Certificate" by an Aviation Medical Examiner. This is a fairly simple
medical exam. A new medical is required every 36 months for those under 40
years old, every 24 months if over 40."

If you're due this spring or summer, maybe move it up to this week - eke an
extra year out of that fee.

Is it true, in China, you're counted as 1 year old when born? Then 2 when
you start your second year, instead of AFTER you've finished 2 years - like
we do it in the US?

We do it the Chinese birthday way for school years - you're in 2nd grade
when you start the school year.

Using the Chinese system, you'd already be 40 ....you old fart! <g>


Montblack

[Montblack]

("Jay Beckman" wrote)
> I have a very close friend who is a 12-stepper and recovering addict (C/S
> for almost 12 years now...God bless him...) who was very involved with a
> halfway house for those in similar situations and told me that they had
> success getting people off booze, off pills, off coke, off heroin, off
> just about anything to which you can become addicted ... except
> cigarettes. The only way off nicotine is to just want off.


My oldest sister quit cigs by allowing herself five or six per day. After a
while she was down to three a day. Then two a day. Now she steals a puff or
two (that's it) a couple of times per month. Smokers are funny - Can I have
a drag from your cigarette? Sure, here.

She said if she had to quit-quit-quit she would have failed. Instead, she
99.9973% quit. Works for her. Mom still smokes, Pops quit when I was young -
except cigars. Three oldest siblings smoke, the younger four of us never
started.


Montblack

[Peter Duniho]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:t5hCf.735401$_o.263844@attbi_s71...
> [...]
> I despise smoking, and am appalled to say that most smokers are slobs. No
> one does more damage to our property, I can't stand what smokers do to our
> hotel, and I can't stand the way I stink when I get home from a bar full
> of smokers.

Do you (now that you have been operated your inn for awhile and have hosted
smokers) understand why I (and my family), as dog owners, will NEVER stay in
a hotel that doesn't allow us to have our pet in a non-smoking room? I'm
sorry that there are some people whose animal allergies are so bad that a
thorough cleaning of a room after a dog has been in there isn't sufficient.
But there is no way for me to be comfortable in a room in which smoking has
been permitted.

It's funny...I'm sure some smokers are just plain slobs. But we have more
than one friend who, after finally quitting smoking, looked at (or smelled)
other smokers and said "was I really just like that?" To which we would
have to reply, "no...you were worse". It's amazing how dulled their senses
were to the smell of smoke in their clothes, hair, and to how much their
smoke got all over everything they owned (the layer of smoke on their car
windows, computer keyboards, etc.).

Pete

[Jay Honeck]

> My oldest sister quit cigs by allowing herself five or six per day. After
> a while she was down to three a day. Then two a day. Now she steals a puff
> or two (that's it) a couple of times per month. Smokers are funny - Can I
> have a drag from your cigarette? Sure, here.

I've known people like that, and the only thing I can think of is that they
were never truly addicted in the first place.

I know for a fact that, if I allowed myself to have one, I'd soon want five,
and then 20.

Trust me, if I thought I could "only smoke a little" -- I would.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> Do you (now that you have been operated your inn for awhile and have
> hosted smokers) understand why I (and my family), as dog owners, will
> NEVER stay in a hotel that doesn't allow us to have our pet in a
> non-smoking room? I'm sorry that there are some people whose animal
> allergies are so bad that a thorough cleaning of a room after a dog has
> been in there isn't sufficient. But there is no way for me to be
> comfortable in a room in which smoking has been permitted.

I understand fully. I just can't find a way to make everyone happy.

One thing we've got that really works is a VERY expensive commercial ozone
generator. We run that thing in our smoking-permitted suites after each
guest, and you won't smell smoke in those units after it has been run for as
little as 30 minutes.

Trouble is, if you bury your face into the couch cushions, or the mattress,
the smell is still there. It just can't be eliminated entirely -- and
neither can pet dander.

Difference is, one bothers some people, while the other makes some people
incredibly ill. Both are awful.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Flyingmonk]

I gotta get mine done! Man! I'm been procrastinating. I'm turning 40
this feb 15th. Sheesh! I gotaa get a move on...

The Monk

[Stubby]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>>Do you (now that you have been operated your inn for awhile and have
>>hosted smokers) understand why I (and my family), as dog owners, will
>>NEVER stay in a hotel that doesn't allow us to have our pet in a
>>non-smoking room? I'm sorry that there are some people whose animal
>>allergies are so bad that a thorough cleaning of a room after a dog has
>>been in there isn't sufficient. But there is no way for me to be
>>comfortable in a room in which smoking has been permitted.
>
>
> I understand fully. I just can't find a way to make everyone happy.
>
> One thing we've got that really works is a VERY expensive commercial ozone
> generator. We run that thing in our smoking-permitted suites after each
> guest, and you won't smell smoke in those units after it has been run for as
> little as 30 minutes.
>
> Trouble is, if you bury your face into the couch cushions, or the mattress,
> the smell is still there. It just can't be eliminated entirely -- and
> neither can pet dander.
>
> Difference is, one bothers some people, while the other makes some people
> incredibly ill. Both are awful.

Do you offer "No Nuts" rooms. Some people go into shock if somebody has
eaten a peanut butter sandwich in the room. (Hmmm are they the nuts?)

[Jay Honeck]

>I gotta get mine done! Man! I'm been procrastinating. I'm turning 40
> this feb 15th. Sheesh! I gotaa get a move on...

Welcome to "middle age". Life is good here!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Ron Natalie]

Flyingmonk wrote:
>> J.B. = 45
>> 2 years for old farts.
>> Montblack
>> 46 next Friday ...happy birthday to me!
>
> I see, what's the cut off age? Which next Friday, tomorrow?
>
> The Monk
>
You have to take the exam before your 40th birthday to get
3 years (from that exam). I got one whopping 3 year renewal
between the time they changed to rule and I turned 40.

[Flyingmonk]

Thanks, Ron and Montblack too. I better get a move on.

The Monk

[RomeoMike]

I quit 30 years ago. In the beginning I had to consciously separate
various activities from cigarets, such as having a cup of coffee without
having to have a cigaret, etc. As time went on it got easier and easier.
At some point I stopped thinking about it and don't miss it anymore. So
I hope the same happens with you. Then you'll be the biggest smoking
critic there ever was! Good luck!

Jay Beckman wrote:

...just give me more
> amunition to keep being an ex smoker!
>
> Jay
>
>

[Eduardo K.]

In article <t5hCf.735401$_o.263844@attbi_s71>,
Jay Honeck > wrote:
>
>I despise smoking, and am appalled to say that most smokers are slobs. No
>one does more damage to our property, I can't stand what smokers do to our
>hotel, and I can't stand the way I stink when I get home from a bar full of
>smokers.
>

I am also a convert. I had gone down to half pack a day of Lucky Strikes
before quitting cold turkey before moving to a new house I did not want to
smell like an ashtray like the former one.

I now can detect a smoker 3 blocks aways and HATE being downwind from
a smoker. I drop my clothes in the washing mashine every time I get back
from a public place where people smoke and hate the smell.


>Yet -- despite all that -- sometimes I REALLY want a smoke. Still.

yup. want the cigarrete. not the smoke.


--
Eduardo K. |
http://www.carfun.cl | "World domination, now"
http://e.nn.cl | Linus Torvalds

[George Patterson]

Eduardo K. wrote:

> I now can detect a smoker 3 blocks aways and HATE being downwind from
> a smoker.

After smoking for 30 years, I can't smell much at all.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

[Morgans]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:y4qCf.736279$_o.226477@attbi_s71...
> >I gotta get mine done! Man! I'm been procrastinating. I'm turning 40
>> this feb 15th. Sheesh! I gotaa get a move on...
>
> Welcome to "middle age". Life is good here!

Speak for yourself. <g>

Mine went to hell at 40, staring with a botched gall bladder surgery that
put me in the hospital for 7 days, and nearly caused my death, and two back
surgeries that have failed to relieve my pain.

Some middle age is good, some, not so much.,;-)
--
Jim in NC

[Jay Honeck]

> > Welcome to "middle age". Life is good here!
>
> Speak for yourself. <g>
>
> Mine went to hell at 40, staring with a botched gall bladder surgery that
> put me in the hospital for 7 days, and nearly caused my death, and two back
> surgeries that have failed to relieve my pain.
>
> Some middle age is good, some, not so much.,;-)

Sorry, Jim. You're right, if you don't have your health, you've got
nuthin'. And that's true for EVERY age.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"