Piper Saratoga down in Alabama

[William Bruce]

Anyone have any information on the Piper Saratoga down near Camden, Alabama
over the weekend? I learned to fly in the 60's from a grass strip in the
area.

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Piper Lance went down with one fatal - lady pax - pilot still in coma
as of 2100 12/30/06. Cause of accident unknown at this point. I saw
them just before they departed KBFM and I was departing with 2
students. Chief CFI, Bobby Mooring was the one who found the wreckage
and directed the ground crews in early sunday. Pax apparently killed on
impact according to ground crew at the scene. Pilot was well qualified
and meticulous according to Mooring. Many knew both occupants and were
well thought of locally.

[Morgans]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Piper Lance went down with one fatal - lady pax - pilot still in coma
> as of 2100 12/30/06. Cause of accident unknown at this point.\

Sorry to hear of this, and not to make a joke, but you ought to switch jobs.
Predicting crashes 11 months in advance is quite a trick!

Condolences for the late, and best wishes for the survivor.
--
Jim in NC

[Flyingmonk]

Another one? Again? Man oh man...

The Monk

[Denny]

If we as a fraternity would read the daily FAA crash listings, uhhhh
daily, it would be sobering - might even make us more safety
concious....

denny

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Morgans wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > Piper Lance went down with one fatal - lady pax - pilot still in coma
> > as of 2100 12/30/06. Cause of accident unknown at this point.\
>
> Sorry to hear of this, and not to make a joke, but you ought to switch jobs.
> Predicting crashes 11 months in advance is quite a trick!
>
> Condolences for the late, and best wishes for the survivor.
> --
> Jim in NC
Jim
Was a late flight last night so I got twitchy on the numbers. And, I'll
bet there will be another fatal crash in 11 months..someplace....
Rocky @KBFM

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"Denny" > wrote in message
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> If we as a fraternity would read the daily FAA crash listings, uhhhh
> daily, it would be sobering - might even make us more safety
> concious....
>
> denny

If we , as a fraternity, would read all the daily automobile crash listings,
we wouldn't have time to do anything else.

Something like 17,000 per day in the US (many, of course, are minor).

--
Geoff
the sea hawk at wow way d0t com
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Spell checking is left as an excercise for the reader.

[Dave Stadt]

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote in message
news:pPydnb2sRbgiQULenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
> "Denny" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> If we as a fraternity would read the daily FAA crash listings, uhhhh
>> daily, it would be sobering - might even make us more safety
>> concious....
>>
>> denny
>
> If we , as a fraternity, would read all the daily automobile crash
> listings, we wouldn't have time to do anything else.
>
> Something like 17,000 per day in the US (many, of course, are minor).
>
> --
> Geoff
> the sea hawk at wow way d0t com
> remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
> Spell checking is left as an excercise for the reader.


Over 110 traffic deaths in the U.S. every day. Even those would take a
while to read.

[Montblack]

("Dave Stadt" wrote)
> Over 110 traffic deaths in the U.S. every day. Even those would take a
> while to read.


I always think about the ones who didn't die.

400 more per day who are really, really messed up?


Montblack

[Dan Luke]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Piper Lance went down with one fatal - lady pax - pilot still in coma
> as of 2100 12/30/06. Cause of accident unknown at this point. I saw
> them just before they departed KBFM and I was departing with 2
> students. Chief CFI, Bobby Mooring was the one who found the wreckage
> and directed the ground crews in early sunday. Pax apparently killed
> on
> impact according to ground crew at the scene. Pilot was well qualified
> and meticulous according to Mooring. Many knew both occupants and were
> well thought of locally.
>

"Pilot was well qualified and meticulous according to Mooring."
How often do we hear this after a crash? And Bobby would be in a
position to really know this, too. He's flown with most of the pilots
at BFM--he's given me two BFRs.

The FAA prelim. report says he had canceled IFR. Spatial disorientation
trying a VFR approach at night?

The weather report from MGM a while later was good VFR:
WEATHER: KMGM 281853Z 17012KT 10SM FEW050 21/07 A3029

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM