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[Ol Shy & Bashful]

I can't believe this board is so dead in the water. For some more up to
date info and action, visit JH and the alternate forum. I try to keep
breathing life into this NG but am giving up all hope. Just check it
out...how many posts in how many days vs on JH.....??

[Shiver]

> Ol Shy & Bashful > wrote:

> I can't believe this board is so dead in the water. For some more up to
> date info and action, visit JH and the alternate forum. I try to keep
> breathing life into this NG but am giving up all hope. Just check it
> out...how many posts in how many days vs on JH.....??

It's a sad fact but I couldn't agree with you more.

I've tried to do my bit, but as a general lurker and armchair pilot
there is only so much I can do.

You would think this group would be chock a block with people but the
usage shows different.

What is the JH and alternate forum your talking about.

[[email protected]]

www.justhelicopters.com I suppose?
Jester

[Shiver]

> > wrote:

> www.justhelicopters.com I suppose?
> Jester

Thanks for the info.

[Stuart & Kathryn Fields]

I visited JH and IMHO it is aimed at the professional helo pilot. I could
find little interesting information for a recreation helo pilot. I was and
am still hoping that this NG would swing more toward recreational aviation
rotorcraft. The few postings that I have made didn't seem to fit in with
the present set. I see more postings about UH-1s, Agusta, R-44 etc and I
don't think that many of these are involved in recreational operations. If
the recreation part of this NG is mainly talking about certified and large
professionally operated helicopters then obviously, I'm in the wrong group.
We publish 6 times a year a magazine dedicated to the experimental
helicopter field which now includes from ultralites to the 4 passenger
Hummingbird. I would sure like to find an active NG that was more oriented
toward the personally owned, recreationally operated helicopters. With
poster's permission, I would use the NG data as basis for magazine
articles. Any ideas??--

Stuart Fields
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478
(760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
(760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell

www.vkss.com
www.experimentalhelo.com


"Ol Shy & Bashful" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I can't believe this board is so dead in the water. For some more up to
> date info and action, visit JH and the alternate forum. I try to keep
> breathing life into this NG but am giving up all hope. Just check it
> out...how many posts in how many days vs on JH.....??
>

[Dave Jackson]

Perhaps one of the reasons is that the forums are HTML and can include
pictures etc., whereas the newsgroups are limited to ASCII.

Just a thought.


"Stuart & Kathryn Fields" > wrote in message
.. .
>I visited JH and IMHO it is aimed at the professional helo pilot. I could
> find little interesting information for a recreation helo pilot. I was
> and
> am still hoping that this NG would swing more toward recreational aviation
> rotorcraft. The few postings that I have made didn't seem to fit in with
> the present set. I see more postings about UH-1s, Agusta, R-44 etc and I
> don't think that many of these are involved in recreational operations.
> If
> the recreation part of this NG is mainly talking about certified and large
> professionally operated helicopters then obviously, I'm in the wrong
> group.
> We publish 6 times a year a magazine dedicated to the experimental
> helicopter field which now includes from ultralites to the 4 passenger
> Hummingbird. I would sure like to find an active NG that was more
> oriented
> toward the personally owned, recreationally operated helicopters. With
> poster's permission, I would use the NG data as basis for magazine
> articles. Any ideas??--
>
> Stuart Fields
> Experimental Helo magazine
> P. O. Box 1585
> Inyokern, CA 93527
> (760) 377-4478
> (760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
> (760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell
>
> www.vkss.com
> www.experimentalhelo.com
>
>
> "Ol Shy & Bashful" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> I can't believe this board is so dead in the water. For some more up to
>> date info and action, visit JH and the alternate forum. I try to keep
>> breathing life into this NG but am giving up all hope. Just check it
>> out...how many posts in how many days vs on JH.....??
>>
>
>

[DownLoader boB]

The OTHER Kevin in San Diego wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 17:40:06 GMT, "Dave Jackson"
> > wrote:
>
>> Perhaps one of the reasons is that the forums are HTML and can include
>> pictures etc., whereas the newsgroups are limited to ASCII.
>
> I've been on usenet a LONG time (since the late 80s or so) and the
> text only format isn't a big deal. I don't need pretty pics to get
> the info I'm looking for.
>
> Maybe the post shortage is due to the fact people just don't know
> about usenet. A lot of people I know who've been in the IT field as
> long as I have (or should say "was") still get a quizzical look on
> their face when I utter that word. Perhaps you should mention this
> group in your mag Stu....
>
> I have no problem with using my posts here for article "seed" Stu..
> If I could afford my own ship, I'd be sure to post my "exploits" and
> "issues" here for your use.

I still read what is posted here. Someday if I'm able to fly again I
want to fly in the Sport Pilot Category so that limits what I can fly. I
want 2 seats and at least some room for camping for several days. I did
ask about the RAF2000 Gyro and received some good information here.

I could use more if someone would like to continue the thread. In my 25
years in the US Army I flew UH1 B, D and H's of course, everyone that
long in the US Army Aviation has flown those. OH58 A, C, and D's
(AHIP), AH-1G,Q,S Modified, and S Modernized

I flew a season with Papillon Grand Canyon Helicopters and met my new
wife there. I got lucky, she's a great wife.

The reason I'm Looking specifically at Gyros is just for the ease of
maintenance and the cost. I don't care about the slow cruise. I ferried
(is that a word???) OH58's cross country and am used to 90 knots, or a
bit slower, cruise speed.

There was some discussion on a modification needed to the RAF2000 and I
would like reading more about it. And of course any other Gyro with 2
seats and initial cost below $30.000, ideally cost below $2500.00 would
be better.

What is out there in the Sport Plane Category?????

And second, I would be happy to read exploits. No one flies rotorcraft
for very long without something(some things) happening and I find it
interesting to read about them. :)

--

boB,

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)

[DownLoader boB]

DownLoader boB wrote:

>
> There was some discussion on a modification needed to the RAF2000 and I
> would like reading more about it. And of course any other Gyro with 2
> seats and initial cost below $30.000, ideally cost below $2500.00 would
> be better.
>


Below $2,500 would be great but I meant below $25,000.00


--

DownLoader boB,
SAG 70

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)

[[email protected]]

In April The Joy of Flight Sun n Fun will take place (Lakeland Florida) at
that annual event there will be several Gyroplanes, ultralites,and home
built helicopters. It is a joy to attend 6 days of non stop flying..
http://www.sun-n-fun.org/content
The Florida chapter of the Vietnam Helicopter Pilots association always has
a exhibit and is educational about what we flew and how we lived in
Vietnam...
I as well enjoyed the large Army Helicopters CH34's CH21's plus all the
versions of the Bell plants but the idea of a small single place helicopter
is kin to a set of very fast tires on a crotch rocket or on a black diamond
run at Jackson Hole.. hard to beat.

Art Cline | CW3 Retired | US Army |Senior Aviator | Combat Wounded
Win xp Pro | DW 7000 | Maxwellsatellite.com Tripod | Southwind 35P
Find Me at | <http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=2028>

[DownLoader boB]

Simon Robbins wrote:
> DownLoader boB wrote:
>>
>> I still read what is posted here.
>
> Me too. I just haven't got any news to post. (Other than I had my last
> chemo dose today so am now finally beginning the uphill road to better
> health and flight status!)
>
> Si

That is great news. Get better quick......

--

DownLoader boB,
SAG 70

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)

[Sparkle]

Simon Robbins wrote:

> DownLoader boB wrote:
>
>> I still read what is posted here.
>
> Me too. I just haven't got any news to post.

And me too. I'm still waiting for Dave Jackson to make unicopters.
What's the holdup, Dave?

[Stuart & Kathryn Fields]

Kevin: I've hesitated in citing this NG as a resource for experimental helo
information because the pre-dominance seems to be toward the bigger
certified ships and there didn't seem to be much interest in the few
postings that I did on the subject.

--
Stuart Fields
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478
(760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
(760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell

www.vkss.com
www.experimentalhelo.com


"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message ...
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 17:40:06 GMT, "Dave Jackson"
> > wrote:
>
> >Perhaps one of the reasons is that the forums are HTML and can include
> >pictures etc., whereas the newsgroups are limited to ASCII.
>
> I've been on usenet a LONG time (since the late 80s or so) and the
> text only format isn't a big deal. I don't need pretty pics to get
> the info I'm looking for.
>
> Maybe the post shortage is due to the fact people just don't know
> about usenet. A lot of people I know who've been in the IT field as
> long as I have (or should say "was") still get a quizzical look on
> their face when I utter that word. Perhaps you should mention this
> group in your mag Stu....
>
> I have no problem with using my posts here for article "seed" Stu..
> If I could afford my own ship, I'd be sure to post my "exploits" and
> "issues" here for your use.

[boB]

Sparkle wrote:
> Simon Robbins wrote:
>
>> DownLoader boB wrote:
>>
>>> I still read what is posted here.
>>
>> Me too. I just haven't got any news to post.
>
> And me too. I'm still waiting for Dave Jackson to make unicopters.
> What's the holdup, Dave?

Unicopter????? Is there such a thing????

--

boB
Wing 70

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)

[Sparkle]

boB wrote:
> Sparkle wrote:
>
>> Simon Robbins wrote:
>>
>>> DownLoader boB wrote:
>>>
>>>> I still read what is posted here.
>>>
>>>
>>> Me too. I just haven't got any news to post.
>>
>>
>> And me too. I'm still waiting for Dave Jackson to make unicopters.
>> What's the holdup, Dave?
>
>
> Unicopter????? Is there such a thing????

Almost! Two (or more?) similar concepts in the works. I want to see how
far he goes with these.

UniCopter
http://www.unicopter.com/UniCopter.html

SynchroLite
http://www.unicopter.com/SynchroLite.html

I had a rotor design on my mind for a while, then Dave Jackson appeared
in this group with his SynchroLite intermeshing rotor project. I liked
it! And it might fit well with my idea. So I've been waiting for Dave to
finish all the hard work.
C'mon Dave! :^)

[Dave Jackson]

Sparkle wrote;

> So I've been waiting for Dave to finish all the hard work.

Currently, the hard work is;- The Very Boring,

http://www.unicopter.com/A114.html ,

with timeouts for;- The Very Ludicrous,

http://www.unicopter.com/ElectroRotor.html

Dave

[Sparkle]

Dave Jackson wrote:
> Sparkle wrote;
>
> > So I've been waiting for Dave to finish all the hard work.
>
> Currently, the hard work is;- The Very Boring,
>
> http://www.unicopter.com/A114.html ,

Filament winding? Strongest fiber may be Black Widow Spider web. I had
one A&P instructor, a composites guy, mention that spider web is being
looked at as a future structural material. Might be time for you to
become a spider wrangler.

[Sparkle]

The OTHER Kevin in San Diego wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:36:02 GMT, Sparkle >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Dave Jackson wrote:
>>
>>>Sparkle wrote;
>>>
>>> > So I've been waiting for Dave to finish all the hard work.
>>>
>>>Currently, the hard work is;- The Very Boring,
>>>
>>>http://www.unicopter.com/A114.html ,
>>
>>Filament winding? Strongest fiber may be Black Widow Spider web. I had
>>one A&P instructor, a composites guy, mention that spider web is being
>>looked at as a future structural material. Might be time for you to
>>become a spider wrangler.
>
>
> I've got a backyard full of black widows he can come harvest. The
> really big one in the garage with the HUGE pile of dead potato bugs
> under her web you can't have. The kids have named her Charlotte...
> hehehe

Or Dave could build the cardboard mockup at your place, then come pick
it up later after it's wound :^)

[Dave Jackson]

>> I've got a backyard full of black widows he can come harvest. The
>> really big one in the garage with the HUGE pile of dead potato bugs
>> under her web you can't have. The kids have named her Charlotte...
>> hehehe

> Or Dave could build the cardboard mockup at your place, then come pick it
> up later after it's wound :^)

Neat idea.

A few years ago some scientist placed a couple of electrodes in an insect's
brain and then he was able to steer the critter. Computer controlled spider.
:)

[Shiver]

> Dave Jackson > wrote:

> A few years ago some scientist placed a couple of electrodes in an insect's
> brain and then he was able to steer the critter. Computer controlled spider.


It costs about 70,000 buckies to train a drug sniffing, explosive
sniffing doggie and takes many many many months of training.

Scientists recently figured out a way to train wasps to do the same job
in about five minutes.

They have a tube with some wasps in it. There is a critter cam so they
can watch the activity of the wasp and holes at one end of the tube so
the various scents can get inside the tube.

They put them by a bunch of things and don't reward them with food.

They put them by drugs and when they get agitated they reward them with
sugar water.... food.

Within five minutes the wasps have figured out what to do.

They use the wasps for just a few days then release them into the wild
as they only live a few short weeks and replace them with a fresh
batch.