Flight instruction compensation - light sport

[Cal Vanize]

Can a flight instructor with a "driver's license" physical give flight
instruction in a light sport class plane and charge for the instruction
given?

[Jim Macklin]

yes
"Cal Vanize" > wrote in message
...
|
| Can a flight instructor with a "driver's license" physical
give flight
| instruction in a light sport class plane and charge for
the instruction
| given?
|
|

[Robert M. Gary]

A CFI with no medical can provide flight instruction in a Boeing 737
and charge for instruction given.

-Robert, CFI

[ktbr]

Robert M. Gary wrote:
> A CFI with no medical can provide flight instruction in a Boeing 737
> and charge for instruction given.

Only if not acting as PIC or required crew member.

[Robert M. Gary]

> Only if not acting as PIC or required crew member

But that's not related to this question.
"Can a flight instructor with a "driver's license" physical give flight

instruction in a light sport class plane and charge for the instruction
given? "

The answer is clearly yes for any instruction.


-Robert, CFI

[Rachel]

Robert M. Gary wrote:
> A CFI with no medical can provide flight instruction in a Boeing 737
> and charge for instruction given.
>
> -Robert, CFI
>
If the "student" is qualifed to act as PIC...

[Rachel]

Robert M. Gary wrote:
>>Only if not acting as PIC or required crew member
>
>
> But that's not related to this question.
> "Can a flight instructor with a "driver's license" physical give flight
>
> instruction in a light sport class plane and charge for the instruction
> given? "
>
> The answer is clearly yes for any instruction.
>
>
> -Robert, CFI
>

Assuming the person is learning to fly the light sport airplane, the CFI
would have to be PIC. I think the CFI would have to have the light
sport class CFI rating.

Or maybe not. I'm guessing my CFI is good enough, so I don't think
about those things.

[Al]

No Light Sport Aircraft CFI ratings required. If you are a CFI, you're
already
qualified. You'll need a Biennial to act as PIC though.

Al


able to teach in sport aircraft for a long time
"Rachel" > wrote in message
...
> Robert M. Gary wrote:
>>>Only if not acting as PIC or required crew member
>>
>>
>> But that's not related to this question.
>> "Can a flight instructor with a "driver's license" physical give flight
>>
>> instruction in a light sport class plane and charge for the instruction
>> given? "
>>
>> The answer is clearly yes for any instruction.
>>
>>
>> -Robert, CFI
>>
>
> Assuming the person is learning to fly the light sport airplane, the CFI
> would have to be PIC. I think the CFI would have to have the light sport
> class CFI rating.
>
> Or maybe not. I'm guessing my CFI is good enough, so I don't think about
> those things.

[Robert M. Gary]

I think the underlying point here is that "charging" for instruction
has nothing to do with medicals when it comes to a CFI. According to
the FAA FAQ the reasoning behind this is that CFIs are paid to teach
not to fly. As a CFI I must agree. For every hour of instruction I log,
I'm lucky to get 30 seconds on the controls. In actual fact there were
probably more political forces at work than logical but the fact is
that whether a CFI charges or not does not at all effect his need for a
medical.

-Robert

[Rachel]

Robert M. Gary wrote:
> I think the underlying point here is that "charging" for instruction
> has nothing to do with medicals when it comes to a CFI. According to
> the FAA FAQ the reasoning behind this is that CFIs are paid to teach
> not to fly. As a CFI I must agree. For every hour of instruction I log,
> I'm lucky to get 30 seconds on the controls. In actual fact there were
> probably more political forces at work than logical but the fact is
> that whether a CFI charges or not does not at all effect his need for a
> medical.
>
> -Robert
>
Then why is a commercial required in order to get a CFI?

[Robert M. Gary]

> Then why is a commercial required in order to get a CFI?

That's a very good question. I believe that is one of the items they
"fixed" with the sport CFI (but I don't remember the final draft).
However, the FAA has been very clear that instruction is not flying for
hire. Maybe its just because the FAA wants CFIs to fly to commercial
standards or perhaps the FAA didn't want the bother of having "private
CFIs" and "commercial CFIs" (to give commercial instruction).


-Robert

[Jim Macklin]

Experience, which is why the new Sport Pilot CFI is
different than the regular CFI.



--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
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"Rachel" > wrote in message
. ..
| Robert M. Gary wrote:
| > I think the underlying point here is that "charging" for
instruction
| > has nothing to do with medicals when it comes to a CFI.
According to
| > the FAA FAQ the reasoning behind this is that CFIs are
paid to teach
| > not to fly. As a CFI I must agree. For every hour of
instruction I log,
| > I'm lucky to get 30 seconds on the controls. In actual
fact there were
| > probably more political forces at work than logical but
the fact is
| > that whether a CFI charges or not does not at all effect
his need for a
| > medical.
| >
| > -Robert
| >
| Then why is a commercial required in order to get a CFI?

[Jim Macklin]

It is for reasons of practicality, the commercial
certificate requires more experience and a slightly higher,
although still rather low level of skill to pass the test.

The reason the FAA may have dropped the requirement for a
current medical for the CFI to instruct or renew is that
there is a shortage of experienced instructors and the FAA
wants the experience and wisdom of the old hands to stay
available.



--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
ups.com...
|> Then why is a commercial required in order to get a CFI?
|
| That's a very good question. I believe that is one of the
items they
| "fixed" with the sport CFI (but I don't remember the final
draft).
| However, the FAA has been very clear that instruction is
not flying for
| hire. Maybe its just because the FAA wants CFIs to fly to
commercial
| standards or perhaps the FAA didn't want the bother of
having "private
| CFIs" and "commercial CFIs" (to give commercial
instruction).
|
|
| -Robert
|

[Robert M. Gary]

> It is for reasons of practicality, the commercial
> certificate requires more experience and a slightly higher,
> although still rather low level of skill to pass the test.
> The reason the FAA may have dropped the requirement for a
> current medical for the CFI to instruct or renew is that
> there is a shortage of experienced instructors and the FAA
> wants the experience and wisdom of the old hands to stay
> available.

Sounds reasonable.

-Robert

[Jim Macklin]

I always try to be reasonable.


Actually, you can look up the full text of the FAR changes,
which include the reasons the FAA proposes a rules change
and also public comments.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
oups.com...
|> It is for reasons of practicality, the commercial
| > certificate requires more experience and a slightly
higher,
| > although still rather low level of skill to pass the
test.
| > The reason the FAA may have dropped the requirement for
a
| > current medical for the CFI to instruct or renew is that
| > there is a shortage of experienced instructors and the
FAA
| > wants the experience and wisdom of the old hands to stay
| > available.
|
| Sounds reasonable.
|
| -Robert
|