how do you pronounce Grob?

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I hear most people pronounce Grob with a B on the end. But I dont think
it is actually a B but rather an esset which is a letter in german that
looks like a B but is pronounced as a hard S. So Grob should really be
pronouced Gross.

[Michael Huber]

> I hear most people pronounce Grob with a B on the end

That´s the correct pronounciation.

>So Grob should really be pronouced Gross.

There could be jokes about "Gross" leading to "gross weight", but they are
not pronounced that way ;-))

Michael

[Bruce Hoult]

In article >,
"Michael Huber" > wrote:

> > I hear most people pronounce Grob with a B on the end
>
> That´s the correct pronounciation.
>
> >So Grob should really be pronouced Gross.
>
> There could be jokes about "Gross" leading to "gross weight", but they are
> not pronounced that way ;-))

The funnier joke is that grob is the Russian word for coffin.

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Is it "Grow"b?
Is it "graw"b?

[Shawn]

wrote:
> Is it "Grow"b?
> Is it "graw"b?
>
I've heard it pronounced "led swan"
;-)

Shawn

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Shawn wrote:
> wrote:
> > Is it "Grow"b?
> > Is it "graw"b?
> >
> I've heard it pronounced "led swan"
> ;-)
>
> Shawn

Hey, I've flow a Grob 102 a lot.
The only time it felt like lead was when I couldn't get out of the
1,000+ fpm sink on the way back to the field. 'Sclose. Enough for me,
anyway. 8<0

I don't know about the Grob, but I lost some weight, if you know what I
mean.....

[Derek Copeland]

I've had a look at Grob's web site. The b at the end
of the word is just an ordinary b and there is no umlaut
on the o.
Therefore you should pronounce Grob almost exactly
as you would in English, with a short 'o' sound. It
is not Grobe or Gross!

The old Grob Twin Astir acquired the nickname of 'The
Concrete Swan' in the UK.

Derek Copeland
------------------------------

At 17:06 08 February 2006, Shawn wrote:
wrote:
>> Is it 'Grow'b?
>> Is it 'graw'b?
>>
>I've heard it pronounced 'led swan'
>;-)
>
>Shawn
>

[Shawn]

Derek Copeland wrote:
> I've had a look at Grob's web site. The b at the end
> of the word is just an ordinary b and there is no umlaut
> on the o.
> Therefore you should pronounce Grob almost exactly
> as you would in English, with a short 'o' sound. It
> is not Grobe or Gross!
>
> The old Grob Twin Astir acquired the nickname of 'The
> Concrete Swan' in the UK.
>
> Derek Copeland


That was it! Concrete or lead, I've had many great flights in the 102
and 103.

Shawn


>>>Is it 'Grow'b?
>>>Is it 'graw'b?
>>>
>>
>>I've heard it pronounced 'led swan'
>>;-)

[Robin Birch]

In message >, Shawn
> writes
>Derek Copeland wrote:
>> I've had a look at Grob's web site. The b at the end
>> of the word is just an ordinary b and there is no umlaut
>> on the o.
>> Therefore you should pronounce Grob almost exactly
>> as you would in English, with a short 'o' sound. It
>> is not Grobe or Gross!
>> The old Grob Twin Astir acquired the nickname of 'The
>> Concrete Swan' in the UK.
>> Derek Copeland
>
>
>That was it! Concrete or lead, I've had many great flights in the 102
>and 103.
>
The CS on the 102 definitely stood for Concrete Swan

Robin

A very happy Astir owner, well ex now but I loved her whilst I had her.

>Shawn
>
>
>>>>Is it 'Grow'b?
>>>>Is it 'graw'b?
>>>>
>>>
>>>I've heard it pronounced 'led swan'
>>>;-)

--
Robin Birch

[Bruce]

Shawn wrote:
> Derek Copeland wrote:
>
>> I've had a look at Grob's web site. The b at the end
>> of the word is just an ordinary b and there is no umlaut
>> on the o.
>> Therefore you should pronounce Grob almost exactly
>> as you would in English, with a short 'o' sound. It
>> is not Grobe or Gross!
>>
>> The old Grob Twin Astir acquired the nickname of 'The
>> Concrete Swan' in the UK.
>>
>> Derek Copeland
>
>
>
> That was it! Concrete or lead, I've had many great flights in the 102
> and 103.
>
> Shawn
>
>
>>>> Is it 'Grow'b?
>>>> Is it 'graw'b?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've heard it pronounced 'led swan'
>>> ;-)
Generally pronounced to rhyme with "rob" around here.

Maybe the earlier models are slow in roll and the tail is "heavy". But I really
like the G103 Twin Astir, feels a little like a Mercedes Benz. All that momentum
makes it a lot more comfortable than something like a K13 in strong conditions.
In weak conditions it does emulate a well thrown brick...

Maybe I just don't know better, but I like 'em.
--
Bruce Greeff
Std Cirrus #57
I'm no-T at the address above.

[Whitson Bush]

I have always heard it as Grob rhyming with rob.
The Twins are always in their element when it is really stoking.
Reminds me of the time Ron Newell and I where watching some finishes at an
inter-services once and I asked him about the Astir CS compared to the STD
Cirrus, that he had a share in with my Dad, anyone remember "Cirrus 10"?
Anyway he told me to listen to an Astir and how loud it was crossing the
line, he then said, "it takes a lot of wasted energy to make that much
noise". I flew Bicester's Astir CS, remember "316", I could get it to climb
pretty well, did out climb my Dad who was it an ASW-20, remember "27", then
he ran off and left me in a glide over to Little Rissy.
Those were the days!!


> wrote in message
oups.com...
>I hear most people pronounce Grob with a B on the end. But I dont think
> it is actually a B but rather an esset which is a letter in german that
> looks like a B but is pronounced as a hard S. So Grob should really be
> pronouced Gross.
>

[Robin Birch]

In message >, Bruce
> writes
>>>> I've heard it pronounced 'led swan'
>>>> ;-)
>Generally pronounced to rhyme with "rob" around here.
>
Yup, that's right. I used to know a guy who worked at Mattsis and that
was how he pronounced it.
>Maybe the earlier models are slow in roll and the tail is "heavy". But
>I really like the G103 Twin Astir, feels a little like a Mercedes Benz.
>All that momentum makes it a lot more comfortable than something like a
>K13 in strong conditions. In weak conditions it does emulate a well
>thrown brick...
>
>Maybe I just don't know better, but I like 'em.
Everybody I know who has flown one for a while says exactly the same, a
brick but I really enjoyed flying it :-)

Robin
--
Robin Birch

[Tony Verhulst]

> That was it! Concrete or lead, I've had many great flights in the 102
> and 103.

A nearby club (in the US, 190km is nearby :-) ) calls their 103 the
Plastic Pig. The only glider I've flown where on a calm day i stomped on
the rudder while on tow and wished I had more.

Kinda reminds me of the Shorts driver who hit a microburst on final and
pushed the engines to 110% rated power, mandating an expensive overhaul
of the hot sections. When asked why he applied so much power, he replied
"because the throttles wouldn't move any further" :-).

Tony V.

[chipsoars]

So would you rather have a Grob or a 2-33? Might as well stir up that
hornet nest since none of the PW 5 insults generated a response.

Chip F

[Tony Verhulst]

chipsoars wrote:
> So would you rather have a Grob or a 2-33? Might as well stir up that
> hornet nest since none of the PW 5 insults generated a response.

LOL. Grob, please!

Tony

[Bruce Hoult]

In article om>,
"chipsoars" > wrote:

> So would you rather have a Grob or a 2-33? Might as well stir up that
> hornet nest since none of the PW 5 insults generated a response.

Gosh that's easy. A Grob. The Twin Astir and descendents are great for
learning to fly in, right up to handicapped contest flying (especially
in wave or on the ridge). The PW5 is better on the weak thermal days we
always seem to get in contests areound here though.

--
Bruce | 41.1670S | \ spoken | -+-
Hoult | 174.8263E | /\ here. | ----------O----------

[Marian Aldenhövel]

Hi,

> Is it "Grow"b?
> Is it "graw"b?

The former.

Ciao, MM
--
Marian Aldenhövel, Rosenhain 23, 53123 Bonn
http://www.marian-aldenhoevel.de
"I ran some quick calculations on it. He's about 80% on the right
track. That leaves him only 20% dead when he crashes." Bob C

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Interesting. In the US, pretty much everybody I know pronounces it
Grow"b (long O).

I guess that's the non-metric pronounciation!

More useless trivia: My glider is an LS6-b according to the flight
manual. Yet everytime I see an LS in print in the US it's called an
LS-6B, LS-4A, etc. Maybe because that's how we name our military
planes (EA-6B, for example)?

And if a Grob 103 is a Concrete Swan - then a Schweizer 2-32 is an
Aluminum Overcast! Love that beast too...

This is bad - I need a thermal fix soon!

Cheers,
Kirk
66

[Damien Dyer]

I have asked a German!
>Interesting. In the US, pretty much everybody I know
>pronounces it
>Grow'b (long O).
is the correct way to say Grob!!!





At 12:36 09 February 2006, wrote:
>Interesting. In the US, pretty much everybody I know
>pronounces it
>Grow'b (long O).
>
>I guess that's the non-metric pronounciation!
>
>More useless trivia: My glider is an LS6-b according
>to the flight
>manual. Yet everytime I see an LS in print in the
>US it's called an
>LS-6B, LS-4A, etc. Maybe because that's how we name
>our military
>planes (EA-6B, for example)?
>
>And if a Grob 103 is a Concrete Swan - then a Schweizer
>2-32 is an
>Aluminum Overcast! Love that beast too...
>
>This is bad - I need a thermal fix soon!
>
>Cheers,
>Kirk
>66
>
>

[Nyal Williams]

Once, and forever. The letter 'o' in Grob is pronounced
like Boat and not like Bob. The vowel sound in Bob
cannot be made in German using the letter 'o.' It
does not exist. To make that sound they would have
to write Bab or Bahb.

Grob means big, thick, coarse, uncouth, peasant-like,
etc.

At 13:00 09 February 2006, Damien Dyer wrote:
>I have asked a German!
>>Interesting. In the US, pretty much everybody I know
>>pronounces it
>>Grow'b (long O).
>is the correct way to say Grob!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>At 12:36 09 February 2006, wrote:
>>Interesting. In the US, pretty much everybody I know
>>pronounces it
>>Grow'b (long O).
>>
>>I guess that's the non-metric pronounciation!
>>
>>More useless trivia: My glider is an LS6-b according
>>to the flight
>>manual. Yet everytime I see an LS in print in the
>>US it's called an
>>LS-6B, LS-4A, etc. Maybe because that's how we name
>>our military
>>planes (EA-6B, for example)?
>>
>>And if a Grob 103 is a Concrete Swan - then a Schweizer
>>2-32 is an
>>Aluminum Overcast! Love that beast too...
>>
>>This is bad - I need a thermal fix soon!
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kirk
>>66
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

[Tanel]

BTW in russian grob(гроб) means coffin. Awful name for a glider.

Tanel

[Marian Aldenhövel]

Hi,

> Grob means big, thick, coarse, uncouth, peasant-like,
> etc.

But is the name of the founder in this case.

Ciao, MM
--
Marian Aldenhövel, Rosenhain 23, 53123 Bonn
http://www.marian-aldenhoevel.de
"I ran some quick calculations on it. He's about 80% on the right
track. That leaves him only 20% dead when he crashes." Bob C

[Claudia Buengen]

Nyal Williams wrote:
> Once, and forever. The letter 'o' in Grob is pronounced
> like Boat and not like Bob. The vowel sound in Bob
> cannot be made in German using the letter 'o.' It
> does not exist. To make that sound they would have
> to write Bab or Bahb.

well, not exactly... if you want to get into linguistic anorak
discussions, the English "boat" is pronounced more like a diphthong, a
combination of o and u - whereas the German Grob (or Boot as in the film
"Das Boot") is a flat, long "o" sound - maybe a bit like a Geordie "o"? :-)

The "o" sound as in "Bob" does exist in German (at least if you think of
the British pronunciation of Bob). It's just a plain short "o".

And finally, yes, Grob means something like rough, coarse - which is why
some people say Grob gliders are grob. Those would be the people who
also call them Harzklumpen, i.e. lumps of resin!

(which leads to the question whether the Harz mountains are really the
Resin mountains...)

Claudia (professional linguistic anorak)

[Stefan]

Claudia Buengen wrote:

> The "o" sound as in "Bob" does exist in German (at least if you think of

Actually, this depends a lot on where the English speaker lives. (Yes, I
snipped that part of your post.) I tend to believe that the
pronounciation of an upperclass Englishman usually slightly differs from
that of an Australian outback farmer. But both will have a very hard
time to to pronounce "Grob" as it is done by Germans.

(Shall we start to discuss how to correctly pronounce the "r"?)

Stefan

[Nyal Williams]

Claudia Buengen, the email address you give here does
not work. Please write me at


Thanks.

At 19:00 09 February 2006, Claudia Buengen wrote:
>Nyal Williams wrote:
>> Once, and forever. The letter 'o' in Grob is pronounced
>> like Boat and not like Bob. The vowel sound in Bob
>> cannot be made in German using the letter 'o.' It
>> does not exist. To make that sound they would have
>> to write Bab or Bahb.
>
>well, not exactly... if you want to get into linguistic
>anorak
>discussions, the English 'boat' is pronounced more
>like a diphthong, a
>combination of o and u - whereas the German Grob (or
>Boot as in the film
>'Das Boot') is a flat, long 'o' sound - maybe a bit
>like a Geordie 'o'? :-)
>
>The 'o' sound as in 'Bob' does exist in German (at
>least if you think of
>the British pronunciation of Bob). It's just a plain
>short 'o'.
>
>And finally, yes, Grob means something like rough,
>coarse - which is why
>some people say Grob gliders are grob. Those would
>be the people who
>also call them Harzklumpen, i.e. lumps of resin!
>
>(which leads to the question whether the Harz mountains
>are really the
>Resin mountains...)
>
>Claudia (professional linguistic anorak)
>

[Nyal Williams]

Get a quart of Listerine and gargle until you are completely
relaxed while doing this exercise ,and then we can
begin.


At 21:12 09 February 2006, Stefan wrote:
>Claudia Buengen wrote:
>
>> The 'o' sound as in 'Bob' does exist in German (at
>>least if you think of
>
>Actually, this depends a lot on where the English speaker
>lives. (Yes, I
>snipped that part of your post.) I tend to believe
>that the
>pronounciation of an upperclass Englishman usually
>slightly differs from
>that of an Australian outback farmer. But both will
>have a very hard
>time to to pronounce 'Grob' as it is done by Germans.
>
>(Shall we start to discuss how to correctly pronounce
>the 'r'?)
>
>Stefan
>