Global Flyer On-Line Tracking

[Jay Honeck]

http://www.globalflyer.com/MissionControl/Tracking/

If you're interesting in tracking Globalflyer's progress...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" > said:
>http://www.globalflyer.com/MissionControl/Tracking/
>
>If you're interesting in tracking Globalflyer's progress...

The updates window on my browers hasn't updated since he hit Kunming. The
map shows him about 3/4s of the way across the Pacific, but the window up
top keeps flashing "Should pass Shanghai at 22:30. Heading toward
Kunming. In China. It'll take Steve five hours to cross China."

Another thing: they haven't updated the "Mission Log" since a few minutes
after take-off. There are rare updates in "News and Features", though.

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but in spamming, it's considered unnecessary precision.
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[Darkwing]

"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
> In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" > said:
>>http://www.globalflyer.com/MissionControl/Tracking/
>>
>>If you're interesting in tracking Globalflyer's progress...
>
> The updates window on my browers hasn't updated since he hit Kunming. The
> map shows him about 3/4s of the way across the Pacific, but the window up
> top keeps flashing "Should pass Shanghai at 22:30. Heading toward
> Kunming. In China. It'll take Steve five hours to cross China."
>
> Another thing: they haven't updated the "Mission Log" since a few minutes
> after take-off. There are rare updates in "News and Features", though.
>


I am getting the latest info, I think it is your browser.

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DW

[Chris]

I going down to Kent on Sunday if he gets there - see if I can get a picture
of the plane with mine in it too like I have with Concorde. See that picture
in Jays rogues gallery.

Chris

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:Rd1Hf.790371$xm3.253289@attbi_s21...
> http://www.globalflyer.com/MissionControl/Tracking/
>
> If you're interesting in tracking Globalflyer's progress...
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Montblack]

("Chris" wrote)
>I going down to Kent on Sunday if he gets there - see if I can get a
>picture of the plane with mine in it too like I have with Concorde. See
>that picture in Jays rogues gallery.


http://www.alexisparkinn.com/rec_aviation.htm
A little help please.

Chris...
A-H
I-P
Q-Z


Montblack

[Jim Burns]

Blythe
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/ChrisBlythe/image2549.jpg

Let us know what you see Chris!!
Thanks,
Jim

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Chris" wrote)
> >I going down to Kent on Sunday if he gets there - see if I can get a
> >picture of the plane with mine in it too like I have with Concorde. See
> >that picture in Jays rogues gallery.
>
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/rec_aviation.htm
> A little help please.
>
> Chris...
> A-H
> I-P
> Q-Z
>
>
> Montblack
>

[Darkwing]

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> Blythe
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/ChrisBlythe/image2549.jpg
>
> Let us know what you see Chris!!
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> "Montblack" > wrote in message
> ...
>> ("Chris" wrote)
>> >I going down to Kent on Sunday if he gets there - see if I can get a
>> >picture of the plane with mine in it too like I have with Concorde. See
>> >that picture in Jays rogues gallery.
>>
>>
>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/rec_aviation.htm
>> A little help please.
>>
>> Chris...
>> A-H
>> I-P
>> Q-Z
>>
>>
>> Montblack


There is a November Piper in that shot, how did that happen?

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DW

[Scott Skylane]

Darkwing wrote:


>
>
> There is a November Piper in that shot, how did that happen?
>
> -------------------------------------------
> DW
>
>
My guess: Someone flew it there.

Happy Flying!
Scott Skylane

[Chris]

Blythe - Tripacer but the aircraft with Concorde is a red Warrior
"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Chris" wrote)
>>I going down to Kent on Sunday if he gets there - see if I can get a
>>picture of the plane with mine in it too like I have with Concorde. See
>>that picture in Jays rogues gallery.
>
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/rec_aviation.htm
> A little help please.
>
> Chris...
> A-H
> I-P
> Q-Z
>
>
> Montblack

[Chris]

"Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim Burns" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Blythe
>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/ChrisBlythe/image2549.jpg
>>
>> Let us know what you see Chris!!
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>>
>> "Montblack" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> ("Chris" wrote)
>>> >I going down to Kent on Sunday if he gets there - see if I can get a
>>> >picture of the plane with mine in it too like I have with Concorde. See
>>> >that picture in Jays rogues gallery.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/rec_aviation.htm
>>> A little help please.
>>>
>>> Chris...
>>> A-H
>>> I-P
>>> Q-Z
>>>
>>>
>>> Montblack
>
>
> There is a November Piper in that shot, how did that happen?

I have a share in a November Piper, lots of November planes in the UK- lets
me use the FAA IR. Otherwise I cannot use it in a Golf plane.

[Jim Burns]

Eww I hate Golf. :)
Jim

"Chris" > wrote in message
...
>
> I have a share in a November Piper, lots of November planes in the UK-
lets
> me use the FAA IR. Otherwise I cannot use it in a Golf plane.
>
>

[Chris]

Why Manston, the Virgin connection I suppose, Virgin Atlantic use it as a
training field for B747 and A340.

Its only a short 72 mile trip round the North and east of London down to
Kent International Airport. The name is a bit of a joke and makes it sound
a bit grander than it is but it has a 2752 m (9029ft) by 61m runway.

The other reason is that it is probably remote that is as far east as you
can get in southern England, the coast is a mere 2 miles from the threshold
of runway 28 and 7 miles from the threshold of runway 10. The airport is in
class G airspace, the nearest controlled airspace is a chunk of Class A at
FL65 above it.
Good fun then!

It hosted the USAAF from 1950 to 1958.

Chris

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> Blythe
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/ChrisBlythe/image2549.jpg
>
> Let us know what you see Chris!!
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> "Montblack" > wrote in message
> ...
>> ("Chris" wrote)
>> >I going down to Kent on Sunday if he gets there - see if I can get a
>> >picture of the plane with mine in it too like I have with Concorde. See
>> >that picture in Jays rogues gallery.
>>
>>
>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/rec_aviation.htm
>> A little help please.
>>
>> Chris...
>> A-H
>> I-P
>> Q-Z
>>
>>
>> Montblack
>>
>
>

[Kyle Boatright]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:Rd1Hf.790371$xm3.253289@attbi_s21...
> http://www.globalflyer.com/MissionControl/Tracking/
>
> If you're interesting in tracking Globalflyer's progress...
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

I seem to remember far better communication on Fossett's last attempt than
on this one. Last time I thought they provided info on fuel remaining, etc.
This time, the information seems to be kept much closer to the vest.

KB

[Chris]

Looks like he is landing at Bournemouth not Manston


"Kyle Boatright" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:Rd1Hf.790371$xm3.253289@attbi_s21...
>> http://www.globalflyer.com/MissionControl/Tracking/
>>
>> If you're interesting in tracking Globalflyer's progress...
>> --
>> Jay Honeck
>> Iowa City, IA
>> Pathfinder N56993
>> www.AlexisParkInn.com
>> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
> I seem to remember far better communication on Fossett's last attempt than
> on this one. Last time I thought they provided info on fuel remaining,
> etc. This time, the information seems to be kept much closer to the vest.
>
> KB
>

[Chris]

Called a Mayday and landed at Bournemouth. Oh Well, that's my day out gone
for a Burton, I am not paying $150 to land at Bournemouth tomorrow.

[Jay Honeck]

> Called a Mayday and landed at Bournemouth. Oh Well, that's my day out gone
> for a Burton, I am not paying $150 to land at Bournemouth tomorrow.

You've got an airport with a $150 LANDING fee?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Martin Hotze]

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:32:50 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

>> Called a Mayday and landed at Bournemouth. Oh Well, that's my day out gone
>> for a Burton, I am not paying $150 to land at Bournemouth tomorrow.
>
>You've got an airport with a $150 LANDING fee?

http://www.flybournemouth.co.uk/corporate-information/fees-charges.php

see <http://www.google.com/search?q=airport+landing+fee+general+aviation>

#m
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[Chris]

£35 landing fee for a PA28 plus mandatory handling soon bumps the cost up.
Not like when I flew into Oshkosh before Airventure last year when I was
give a ride to the museum, picked up from the museum, taken to the
restaurant and then taken back to Baslers all for nothing. I did not even
buy any gas.

The minimum landing fees are around $17 for nothing and you pay extra for
practice approaches.

Chris

"Martin Hotze" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:32:50 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:
>
>>> Called a Mayday and landed at Bournemouth. Oh Well, that's my day out
>>> gone
>>> for a Burton, I am not paying $150 to land at Bournemouth tomorrow.
>>
>>You've got an airport with a $150 LANDING fee?
>
> http://www.flybournemouth.co.uk/corporate-information/fees-charges.php
>
> see <http://www.google.com/search?q=airport+landing+fee+general+aviation>
>
> #m
> --
> We reject Gilmore's right to travel argument because the Constitution does
> not guarantee the right to travel by any particular form of
> transportation.
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?P27712B8C

[Heiko Bauer]

>> The minimum landing fees are around $17 for nothing and you pay extra for
>> practice approaches.
>
> So where is all this money going?

In Europe GA is a cash cow for airports. You get for up to 150 Dollars
transportation from plane to terminal and back with a dirty follow-me
car, two sheets of paper with weatherbull**** and maybe a free cup of
coffee while paying the different bills. And, not to forget, you are
assisted by a Handling-man looking for 3 different offices for paying
Handling, Navigational and Airportfees.....

Greetings,
Heiko

[Chris]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:J7NHf.762998$x96.89290@attbi_s72...
>> £35 landing fee for a PA28 plus mandatory handling soon bumps the cost
>> up. Not like when I flew into Oshkosh before Airventure last year when
>> I was give a ride to the museum, picked up from the museum, taken to the
>> restaurant and then taken back to Baslers all for nothing. I did not even
>> buy any gas.
>>
>> The minimum landing fees are around $17 for nothing and you pay extra for
>> practice approaches.
>
> So where is all this money going?
>
> Or has it effectively eliminated most private flying, which, of course,
> means they must raise the fees to protect all the make-work jobs, which
> eliminates even more flying, which means they must raise the fees again,
> blah, blah, blah...?

No airports in the Uk receive taxpayers money so everything they do has to
be met from they income they make whether it is through landing fees, profit
on fuel etc. No fancy grants for runway improvements etc. Some airports will
discount the landing fee if you uplift fuel but then it usually has to be a
lot.

The same applies with ATC. Airports have to pay for their own ATC. There is
no government funding for that either so again they have to charge to cover
their costs. Hence a couple of instrument approaches will set you back $50
in ATC charges.
Finally the UK CAA are required by law to not only recover their costs from
users but make a 6% return on investment. Hence when you have done all your
training, passed the checkride you have to part with $278 for them to do the
paperwork and issue the licence. This has to be renewed every 5 years for
$100.
and as I have mentioned before, I have to give the CAA £16 so that they can
verify my licence details for the FAA to then issue me with a private
certificate for free. Its a crazy world.

On top of this fuel is about $7.50 a gallon. all the tax raised on the fuel
goes into the general fund and pays for defense, welfare, roads, education
etc. None of it makes it way back to GA.

Chris

[Jay Honeck]

> On top of this fuel is about $7.50 a gallon. all the tax raised on the
> fuel goes into the general fund and pays for defense, welfare, roads,
> education etc. None of it makes it way back to GA.

That's sad.

To what do you attribute this terrible situation? Do the politicians in
your country believe that airline pilots are hatched full-grown? Do they
really think it's safe to discourage using ATC? Where are future pilots
going to come from?

Why do I think you're going to answer "From America?"
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Chris]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:1adIf.766769$x96.21260@attbi_s72...
>> On top of this fuel is about $7.50 a gallon. all the tax raised on the
>> fuel goes into the general fund and pays for defense, welfare, roads,
>> education etc. None of it makes it way back to GA.
>
> That's sad.
>
> To what do you attribute this terrible situation? Do the politicians in
> your country believe that airline pilots are hatched full-grown? Do they
> really think it's safe to discourage using ATC? Where are future pilots
> going to come from?
>
> Why do I think you're going to answer "From America?"

Not America - anywhere where it can be done cheaper.
The airlines don't care as long as they keep their costs down.

To do an integrated frozen ATPL 0-250 hours with multicrew enough to get you
into the right hand seat of an Airbus costs about £70,000 ($ 123,000) ie on
a 15 month full time basis. Most of the flying up to the IR test is done in
the US to reduce the costs. After 1500 hours the ATPL is unfrozen and that
then allows commander status.

Doing it on a modular basis costs about £37,000 but the job chances are
vastly inferior as the airlines prefer the integrated route because of the
integrity of it being done at one provider.

Getting a fistful of FAA certificates does not help unless you get to work
for a US airline, because to convert to a JAR ATPL the ground school still
has to be done along with the 14 exams. Cost £1800 for the ground school and
£800 for the exams.
Surprisingly there are plenty of people prepared to cough up that sort of
money
The paradox seems to me that people so obsessed about flying should not be
doing it professionally.

Chris

[Jay Honeck]

> Getting a fistful of FAA certificates does not help unless you get to work
> for a US airline, because to convert to a JAR ATPL the ground school still
> has to be done along with the 14 exams. Cost £1800 for the ground school
> and £800 for the exams.

FOURTEEN exams?

> The paradox seems to me that people so obsessed about flying should not be
> doing it professionally.

I tend to agree, but why do you say that?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Chris]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:lpFIf.777446$_o.391706@attbi_s71...
>> Getting a fistful of FAA certificates does not help unless you get to
>> work for a US airline, because to convert to a JAR ATPL the ground school
>> still has to be done along with the 14 exams. Cost £1800 for the ground
>> school and £800 for the exams.
>
> FOURTEEN exams?
>
>> The paradox seems to me that people so obsessed about flying should not
>> be doing it professionally.
>
> I tend to agree, but why do you say that?
> --
why do you agree?

I say it because spending $122k with no guarantee of a job seems a risky
thing to be doing and I thought managing / minimising risk was a key
attribute of a pilot. The whole just seems at odds to me.

[Jay Honeck]

>>> The paradox seems to me that people so obsessed about flying should not
>>> be doing it professionally.
>>
>> I tend to agree, but why do you say that?
>> --
> why do you agree?
>
> I say it because spending $122k with no guarantee of a job seems a risky
> thing to be doing and I thought managing / minimising risk was a key
> attribute of a pilot. The whole just seems at odds to me.

I agree, but I'm coming from a different philosophical standpoint that says
one so enamored with flying shouldn't ruin it by turning it into a rote
exercise.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"