N1 lands in BED:

[Bush]

N1 lands in BED with Entwhistle on board. What is the FAA doing flying
this alledged murder suspect back to the US?

Bush

[Peter R.]

Bush > wrote:

> N1 lands in BED with Entwhistle on board. What is the FAA doing flying
> this alledged murder suspect back to the US?

Keeping him safe from vigilantes, no doubt.

Think of the notoriety one would receive if one decided to apply his own
form of justice to this scum.

--
Peter

[Bush]

Think of the savings to the taxpayers with a sniper on the old Beech
East roof. Ya okay he gets a public defender?

Have a great one!

Bush

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:50:34 -0500, "Peter R." >
wrote:

>Bush > wrote:
>
>> N1 lands in BED with Entwhistle on board. What is the FAA doing flying
>> this alledged murder suspect back to the US?
>
>Keeping him safe from vigilantes, no doubt.
>
>Think of the notoriety one would receive if one decided to apply his own
>form of justice to this scum.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Bush" > wrote in message
...
>
> N1 lands in BED with Entwhistle on board. What is the FAA doing flying
> this alledged murder suspect back to the US?
>

Are you sure they did?

[Lakeview Bill]

The FBI handles this type of transportation under contract to the states,
and are reimbursed by them for the costs of the plane and agents.



"Bush" > wrote in message
...
> N1 lands in BED with Entwhistle on board. What is the FAA doing flying
> this alledged murder suspect back to the US?
>
> Bush

[Bush]

Actually US Marshalls service flown by the FAA, on all Boston area
news currently however Fox and others are all over this story.

Bush

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:08:44 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
> wrote:

>
>"Bush" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> N1 lands in BED with Entwhistle on board. What is the FAA doing flying
>> this alledged murder suspect back to the US?
>>
>
>Are you sure they did?
>

[Bob Gardner]

From what I heard, the federal gummint will be billing the Commonwealth of
Massachusetts for the cost of the flight. Much more secure than commercial
air.

Bob Gardner

"Bush" > wrote in message
...
> N1 lands in BED with Entwhistle on board. What is the FAA doing flying
> this alledged murder suspect back to the US?
>
> Bush

[[email protected]]

Since the subject has been raised - does anybody know what N1 is used
for?
It's registered to the FAA, and painted like Airforce 1. Saw it land at
AVL awhile
back. Three guys got out and appeared to go to lunch. Left an hour or
so later.

[John R]

Bush wrote:

> Actually US Marshalls service flown by the FAA, on all Boston area
> news currently however Fox and others are all over this story.

Yeah it was nuts. At least four helicopters hovering for quite some time in
the pattern, just south of the field. I'm surprised ATC let them get so close
since the pattern is usually so busy, especially around sunset it can be hard
to get in the D, let alone stand still in the pattern. As soon as they
finally got their shot they left quickly. Not sure if the newly arrived
spent any time visiting the Customs double-wide before getting nine squad
cars for the escort to hopkinton.

[Bob Noel]

In article >, John R > wrote:

> Not sure if the newly arrived
> spent any time visiting the Customs double-wide before getting nine squad
> cars for the escort to hopkinton.

They probably cleared customs in Bangor.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

[Bob Martin]

wrote:
> Since the subject has been raised - does anybody know what N1 is used
> for?
> It's registered to the FAA, and painted like Airforce 1. Saw it land at
> AVL awhile
> back. Three guys got out and appeared to go to lunch. Left an hour or
> so later.
>

Not really sure... I've seen it in Savannah a couple times at work, but
never had a chance to look inside.

[Denny]

Now wait a minute Peter... This scum, err person, is as innocent as a
little lamb until 12 citizens who are too slow to think up a convincing
lie to get out of jury duty pronounce him guilty as hell... At which
point he has rights, and besides it wasn't his fault, his mother
traumatized him during potty training...

denny

[Toks Desalu]

Yeah, I saw it, too, but did you notice that landing lights was flashing
like a siren after touchdwon? I don't see any point for doing that. Is it
designed to chase someone in the air and force them to pull over???

Toks

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Since the subject has been raised - does anybody know what N1 is used
> for?
> It's registered to the FAA, and painted like Airforce 1. Saw it land at
> AVL awhile
> back. Three guys got out and appeared to go to lunch. Left an hour or
> so later.
>

[sfb]

These days law enforcement vehicles are wall to wall flashing lights so
traffic sees them to yield or idiot drivers don't run into them when
they are stopped by the side of the road. It might be as simple as if it
is good enough for an automobile, it is good enough for an airplane.

"Toks Desalu" > wrote in message
news:Tw%If.2744$U2.741@trndny08...
> Yeah, I saw it, too, but did you notice that landing lights was
> flashing like a siren after touchdwon? I don't see any point for doing
> that. Is it designed to chase someone in the air and force them to
> pull over???
>
> Toks
>

[Peter R.]

sfb > wrote:

> These days law enforcement vehicles are wall to wall flashing lights so
> traffic sees them to yield or idiot drivers don't run into them when
> they are stopped by the side of the road. It might be as simple as if it
> is good enough for an automobile, it is good enough for an airplane.

Or, maybe this is nothing more than one of those landing lights that
flashes during the day to make the aircraft easier to spot while in the
air. Many aircraft, from business jet down to Cessna single engines, are
equipped with these.

Toks didn't mention whether the landing light was left on for taxi all the
way to the ramp so therefore I suspect that this was the case.


--
Peter

[Jim Macklin]

Flashing landing lights is an anti-collision development.
The bulb is cycled from about 20-100% intensity. This
increases bulb life and the eye sees a flashing light better
than a steady light.
They have these on motorcycles too. They even have a unit
that will flash the brakelight when they are applied
steadily.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"sfb" > wrote in message
news:UQ%If.16418$7C3.4209@trnddc08...
| These days law enforcement vehicles are wall to wall
flashing lights so
| traffic sees them to yield or idiot drivers don't run into
them when
| they are stopped by the side of the road. It might be as
simple as if it
| is good enough for an automobile, it is good enough for an
airplane.
|
| "Toks Desalu" > wrote in message
| news:Tw%If.2744$U2.741@trndny08...
| > Yeah, I saw it, too, but did you notice that landing
lights was
| > flashing like a siren after touchdwon? I don't see any
point for doing
| > that. Is it designed to chase someone in the air and
force them to
| > pull over???
| >
| > Toks
| >
|
|

[Denny]

They probably cleared customs in Bangor.
************************************************** *****

Bob, this interested me enough to spend 45 minutes on the phone, with 7
different customs offices, finally ending up with a Mr. <name withheld
by me for reasons below> who explained the procedure...
Federal agencies reentering the country on official business,
especially with prisoners, normally have one or more of those federal
personnel being also a customs agent with the authority to interview
and clear people in and out of the country... So Entwhistle would have
been interviewed and cleared into the country while in the air... Same
for all persons aboard the aircraft... The plane hits the ground, the
prisoner is hustled to the car, and everyone scatters before the
prisoner can meet his just desserts...

I then asked about U.S. war ships, etc., entering and leaving the
country... Same deal, some officers aboard a military ship have customs
agent authority and all the paperwork is completed aboard the vessel
prior to exit or entry...

SCOOP for RAP members only:
He also mentioned that the planes moving prisoners to and from
Guantanamo have a federal agent on board with customs authority who
clears them in and out of the country without going through the customs
gates...
I strongly doubt he intended that for the 6 o'clock news, so I have
chosen to redact his name above... But, it's an interesting tidbit...

Foaming at the mouth media mongors need not call me as I won't discuss
it...

BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
interviews and clears everyone, including the President, in and out of
the country... At which point I regaled him with the story reported
here on rec.aviation of Vice President Dan Quail having to remove his
shoes and be patted down at the airport... He laughed, said he both
knows and likes Mr. Quail, but if he were the agent, 'it would have
been down to his skivvies!'

Famous, new saying, copyright to me:
"There is nothing more powerful than a little authority."

Remember that when you are dealing with the TSA agent at the airport,
who was a medicaid momma before she was given 3 weeks of classroom
training, a badge and the power to destroy your life......

denny

[Jim Macklin]

Dan Quayle, quail are birds.



"Denny" > wrote in message
oups.com...
| They probably cleared customs in Bangor.
| ************************************************** *****
|
| Bob, this interested me enough to spend 45 minutes on the
phone, with 7
| different customs offices, finally ending up with a Mr.
<name withheld
| by me for reasons below> who explained the procedure...
| Federal agencies reentering the country on official
business,
| especially with prisoners, normally have one or more of
those federal
| personnel being also a customs agent with the authority to
interview
| and clear people in and out of the country... So
Entwhistle would have
| been interviewed and cleared into the country while in the
air... Same
| for all persons aboard the aircraft... The plane hits the
ground, the
| prisoner is hustled to the car, and everyone scatters
before the
| prisoner can meet his just desserts...
|
| I then asked about U.S. war ships, etc., entering and
leaving the
| country... Same deal, some officers aboard a military ship
have customs
| agent authority and all the paperwork is completed aboard
the vessel
| prior to exit or entry...
|
| SCOOP for RAP members only:
| He also mentioned that the planes moving prisoners to and
from
| Guantanamo have a federal agent on board with customs
authority who
| clears them in and out of the country without going
through the customs
| gates...
| I strongly doubt he intended that for the 6 o'clock news,
so I have
| chosen to redact his name above... But, it's an
interesting tidbit...
|
| Foaming at the mouth media mongors need not call me as I
won't discuss
| it...
|
| BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air
Force One and he
| interviews and clears everyone, including the President,
in and out of
| the country... At which point I regaled him with the
story reported
| here on rec.aviation of Vice President Dan Quail having
to remove his
| shoes and be patted down at the airport... He laughed,
said he both
| knows and likes Mr. Quail, but if he were the agent, 'it
would have
| been down to his skivvies!'
|
| Famous, new saying, copyright to me:
| "There is nothing more powerful than a little authority."
|
| Remember that when you are dealing with the TSA agent at
the airport,
| who was a medicaid momma before she was given 3 weeks of
classroom
| training, a badge and the power to destroy your life......
|
| denny
|

[Newps]

>
> BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
> interviews and clears everyone, including the President,

No way there is any customs agents of any kind on AF1 so they can clear
the President back into the country.

[DaveB]

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:57:07 GMT, "Toks Desalu"
> wrote:

>Yeah, I saw it, too, but did you notice that landing lights was flashing
>like a siren after touchdwon? I don't see any point for doing that. Is it
>designed to chase someone in the air and force them to pull over???
>
>Toks
>
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>> Since the subject has been raised - does anybody know what N1 is used
>> for?
>> It's registered to the FAA, and painted like Airforce 1. Saw it land at
>> AVL awhile
>> back. Three guys got out and appeared to go to lunch. Left an hour or
>> so later.
>>
>
>Here in Los Angles we had a police helo pull over a pp in the air and had him land to find out why he was flying like an idiot.

Regards
Daveb

[B a r r y]

Newps wrote:
>
> No way there is any customs agents of any kind on AF1 so they can clear
> the President back into the country.


Recent news suggests that Federal Air Marshalls need to clear customs.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

"Newps" > wrote in message
. ..
>
>
>
>>
>> BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
>> interviews and clears everyone, including the President,
>
> No way there is any customs agents of any kind on AF1 so they can clear
> the President back into the country.


I doubt it is for the President or even his staff. They would all be
carrying diplomatic passports anyway. Now there might be someone on board to
clear all the press folks that are in the back of the plane.

[Denny]

Well, go tell that to the high placed customs official in DC who said
it to me this morning... He volunteered that information on his own -
questioning the President's travels didn't occur to me - while we were
discussing the point that selected members of federal and military
agencies have been through customs school and are customs agent /
border patrol officers along with their other credentials... He
specifically, and adamently in tone, made the point that even"the
President" has to clear customs in and out... I don't have a dog in
this fight...

denny

[Denny]

Bull flipping ****. The President travels on a diplomatic pass port.
************************************************** ***********************

Ya know, it never ceases to amaze me... How some folks know everything
right off the top of their head...
I don't so I did my homework by reading the relevant USA federal law as
published, then spent 45 minutes on the phone getting that <rather
dense> federal law explained to me by the people who sit in corner
offices in DC - and now I'm full of **** but some of you apparently
know more than those who run the joint...

Interesting! Really interesting...

[sfb]

Did your review include diplomatic pass ports? The part you cut said the
President on AF 1 clears immigration and customs which is totally false
since he travels on a diplomatic pass port.

"Denny" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Bull flipping ****. The President travels on a diplomatic pass port.
> ************************************************** ***********************
>
> Ya know, it never ceases to amaze me... How some folks know everything
> right off the top of their head...
> I don't so I did my homework by reading the relevant USA federal law
> as
> published, then spent 45 minutes on the phone getting that <rather
> dense> federal law explained to me by the people who sit in corner
> offices in DC - and now I'm full of **** but some of you apparently
> know more than those who run the joint...
>
> Interesting! Really interesting...
>

[Grumman-581]

"sfb" > wrote in message news:UQ%If.16418$7C3.4209@trnddc08...
> These days law enforcement vehicles are wall to wall flashing lights so
> traffic sees them to yield or idiot drivers don't run into them when
> they are stopped by the side of the road.

Of course, there's a valid argument to be made that these lights are
distracting and might actually *cause* more accidents than they avoid...

[Grumman-581]

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:BL0Jf.121423$0G.54110@dukeread10...
> They have these on motorcycles too. They even have a unit
> that will flash the brakelight when they are applied
> steadily.

It might be nice if they had a variable flash rate that flashes faster
depending upon the amount of brake pressure that is being applied...

[Montblack]

("Denny" wrote)
> Now wait a minute Peter... This scum, err person, is as innocent as a
> little lamb until 12 citizens who are too slow to think up a convincing
> lie to get out of jury duty pronounce him guilty as hell... At which
> point he has rights, and besides it wasn't his fault, his mother
> traumatized him during potty training...


His mother's death, years ago, was ruled a suicide, though investigators
were always puzzled by the fact that the suicide note was written in crayon.


Montblack

[Newps]

If you are riding on AF1 you do not clear customs.



sfb wrote:
> Bull flipping ****. The President travels on a diplomatic pass port.
>
> Something tells me that those in the party without diplomatic pass ports
> have a very fast path through immigration and customs.
>
> "Newps" > wrote in message
> . ..
>
>>
>>
>>>BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and
>>>he
>>>interviews and clears everyone, including the President,
>>
>>No way there is any customs agents of any kind on AF1 so they can
>>clear the President back into the country.
>
>
>

[Skywise]

"Grumman-581" > wrote in
:

> "Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
> news:BL0Jf.121423$0G.54110@dukeread10...
>> They have these on motorcycles too. They even have a unit
>> that will flash the brakelight when they are applied
>> steadily.
>
> It might be nice if they had a variable flash rate that flashes faster
> depending upon the amount of brake pressure that is being applied...

Some years ago I was perusing the California vehicle code about
this stuff. I ride a motorcycle and was looking to see what legal
means I could take to increase my visibility. One of the things I
ran across was about exactly as you described being permitted.
Although, IIRC, for cars, it had to be as a central third brake
light.

I have been considering similar mods to my bike's lighting system.
Actually, what I want to do may not be 100% legal, but when it
comes to me riding a motorcycle in the LA area...obey the law?
or reduce my chances of getting killed? Takes half a brain cell
to decide on the latter.

But yes, a flashing brake light that flashes at a rate proportional
to the amount of braking is at least legal in CA, although I've
never seen one.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

[Skywise]

"Grumman-581" > wrote in
:

> "sfb" > wrote in message news:UQ%If.16418$7C3.4209@trnddc08...
>> These days law enforcement vehicles are wall to wall flashing lights so
>> traffic sees them to yield or idiot drivers don't run into them when
>> they are stopped by the side of the road.
>
> Of course, there's a valid argument to be made that these lights are
> distracting and might actually *cause* more accidents than they avoid...

AKA target fixation? "ooOOOoo...what's the pretty flashing light
up ahead?....ooohh...****!" <insert sounds of crunching metal here>

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

[Jim Macklin]

I've seen ads for these modulated brake and headlights in
American Iron magazine, I'm sure pretty well all street bike
magazines have the ads.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Skywise" > wrote in message
...
| "Grumman-581" >
wrote in
| :
|
| > "Jim Macklin" >
wrote in message
| > news:BL0Jf.121423$0G.54110@dukeread10...
| >> They have these on motorcycles too. They even have a
unit
| >> that will flash the brakelight when they are applied
| >> steadily.
| >
| > It might be nice if they had a variable flash rate that
flashes faster
| > depending upon the amount of brake pressure that is
being applied...
|
| Some years ago I was perusing the California vehicle code
about
| this stuff. I ride a motorcycle and was looking to see
what legal
| means I could take to increase my visibility. One of the
things I
| ran across was about exactly as you described being
permitted.
| Although, IIRC, for cars, it had to be as a central third
brake
| light.
|
| I have been considering similar mods to my bike's lighting
system.
| Actually, what I want to do may not be 100% legal, but
when it
| comes to me riding a motorcycle in the LA area...obey the
law?
| or reduce my chances of getting killed? Takes half a brain
cell
| to decide on the latter.
|
| But yes, a flashing brake light that flashes at a rate
proportional
| to the amount of braking is at least legal in CA, although
I've
| never seen one.
|
| Brian
| --
| http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy,
Skepticism
| Seismic FAQ:
http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
| Quake "predictions":
http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
| Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

[Chris]

"Denny" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Well, go tell that to the high placed customs official in DC who said
> it to me this morning... He volunteered that information on his own -
> questioning the President's travels didn't occur to me - while we were
> discussing the point that selected members of federal and military
> agencies have been through customs school and are customs agent /
> border patrol officers along with their other credentials... He
> specifically, and adamently in tone, made the point that even"the
> President" has to clear customs in and out... I don't have a dog in
> this fight...

On this basis, it is perfectly likely that Secret Service Agents are the
trained customs agents and it is all a bit of a formality but it needs to be
done. Cannot having the great unwashed complaining that the first citizen
does not have to go through the same process as them.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Somebody, somewhere stamps the press' folks passports.



"Newps" > wrote in message
...
> If you are riding on AF1 you do not clear customs.
>
>
>
> sfb wrote:
>> Bull flipping ****. The President travels on a diplomatic pass port.
>>
>> Something tells me that those in the party without diplomatic pass ports
>> have a very fast path through immigration and customs.
>>
>> "Newps" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
>>>>interviews and clears everyone, including the President,
>>>
>>>No way there is any customs agents of any kind on AF1 so they can clear
>>>the President back into the country.
>>
>>

[Don Tuite]

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:50:52 -0000, Skywise
> wrote:


>Some years ago I was perusing the California vehicle code about
>this stuff. I ride a motorcycle and was looking to see what legal
>means I could take to increase my visibility.

Here's a link to the US Regs:

http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-technical-articles/Modulator-regs.htm

I put one of these:

http://www.comagination.com/modulator.htm

on the Virago. It took about 20 minutes after I stopped trying to
take the headlight shell apart by turning the aiming scrrews. This
one is cheaper than the Kisan.

The same company has a brake-light flasher. The Web page says this:

"Police seem to dislike "endless" brake flashing while stopped. Some
authorities dislike brake strobing (fast flashing). The IBF4/9 solve
these issues. Apply your brake and your brake light(s) will
immediately turn ON and then flash for about 3-4 seconds then stay ON
continuously. Release your brake and apply again will cause the cycle
to repeat but the flash period will be shorter depending on how long
the brakes were off. A complete reset takes about 20-30 seconds. This
helps prevent distracting flashing in stop & go traffic. IBF4 conforms
with California DOT regulations."

But I can't find any direct reference to those regs on-line.

Yesterday, I did see a flashing brake light in the rear window of a
bus at SFO. The regular brake lights weren't flashing, though. I
also found, on-line, a Whelan brochure that had brake-light flashers
for construction trucks.

I figure the headlight modulator will be useful for as long as they
are uncommon. (Like daytime headlight use -- now that half the
drivers I see have daytime running lights or have their lilghts on in
the daytime anyway, and that California requires full headlights (not
running lights) whenever your windshield wipers are on, any safety
advantage I ever had from driving car or bike with the headlight on
has evaporated.)

I also figure that I get moret benefit from riding while wearing my
day-glo green construction vest with the retrofeflective stripes than
from the flashing headlight. People who would never say, "Hey, look,
there goes a motorcycle!" will say, "Hey, look, there goes a dork!"

(But not so much of a dork that I leave the headlight flasher on when
I'm behind somebody at a stoplight. I switch to low-beam, which kills
the flasher.)


Don (Who figures this isn't OT because it sorta relates to
anti-collision lighting on A/C.)

[Rachel]

Skywise wrote:
> "Grumman-581" > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>"sfb" > wrote in message news:UQ%If.16418$7C3.4209@trnddc08...
>>
>>>These days law enforcement vehicles are wall to wall flashing lights so
>>>traffic sees them to yield or idiot drivers don't run into them when
>>>they are stopped by the side of the road.
>>
>>Of course, there's a valid argument to be made that these lights are
>>distracting and might actually *cause* more accidents than they avoid...
>
>
> AKA target fixation? "ooOOOoo...what's the pretty flashing light
> up ahead?....ooohh...****!" <insert sounds of crunching metal here>

Ever been to ORD? Right on the main road, just before Terminal 1, there
is a huge "don't go this way, lane ends" yellow and black sign attached
to a concrete barrier. Everyone I've ever been in the car with heads
right towards it....and it's pretty obvious people have it it it before.
It's just too big to ignore and people end up steering right towards it.

[Jose]

>>I figure the headlight modulator will be useful for as long as they
>> are uncommon.
>
> I disagree with this theory.
>
> I believe the advantage has more to do with the eye's ability (and the
> brain's connection and information processing ability) to spot moving vs.
> non moving targets, in low contrast situations. The added flashing acts as
> motion to the eye, giving an edge in recognition ability.

This is why flashing ads on the web are so annoying. They were also
very effective, but are less so now that people have a strong "ignore"
reflex in their eyeballs.

The same thing could happen with aircraft, though in that case pilots
are not looking to avoid seeing the lights, they are looking to avoid
hitting them. :)

Jose
--
Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Skywise]

Don Tuite > wrote in
:

> On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:50:52 -0000, Skywise
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Some years ago I was perusing the California vehicle code about
>>this stuff. I ride a motorcycle and was looking to see what legal
>>means I could take to increase my visibility.
>
> Here's a link to the US Regs:
>
> http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-technical-articles/Modulator-regs.
> htm
>
> I put one of these:
>
> http://www.comagination.com/modulator.htm
>
<Snipola>

Thanks for the info, Don. The tail light described is almost
exactly what I was planning. But I couldn't use it as I have
other functions I wish to have as well. Then there's the turn
signals. I have plans there too. Part of it involves having
a better emergency flashing system that would use all available
lighting. As it is now, I have nothing but a lone slow flashing
turn signal if I should happen to pull over on the freeway for
some reason. I'm sure there's some aftermarket systems, but
I doubt there's any that has all the features what I want.

And for on topic-ness, riding a motorcycle sometimes feels like
combat flying at zero AGL with a bunch of kamikazee's, and you're
heavily out numbered.

Brian
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[Don Tuite]

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:55:33 -0000, Skywise
> wrote:
>
>Thanks for the info, Don. The tail light described is almost
>exactly what I was planning. But I couldn't use it as I have
>other functions I wish to have as well. Then there's the turn
>signals. I have plans there too. Part of it involves having
>a better emergency flashing system that would use all available
>lighting. As it is now, I have nothing but a lone slow flashing
>turn signal if I should happen to pull over on the freeway for
>some reason. I'm sure there's some aftermarket systems, but
>I doubt there's any that has all the features what I want.

I found the relevant section of the California Vehicle Code:

25251.5. . . .

(c) Any stoplamp or supplemental stoplamp required or permitted by
Section 24603 may be equipped so as to flash not more than four times
within the first four seconds after actuation by application of the
brakes.

>And for on topic-ness, riding a motorcycle sometimes feels like
>combat flying at zero AGL with a bunch of kamikazee's, and you're
>heavily out numbered.
>
A large number of the pilots I've known also ride motorcycles. Even
without the combat aspect, I find that the kinetics of riding a bike
are more like people imagine flying to be that most non-acrobatic
flight.

Don

[Morgans]

"Don Tuite" > wrote
>
> I figure the headlight modulator will be useful for as long as they
> are uncommon.

I disagree with this theory.

I believe the advantage has more to do with the eye's ability (and the
brain's connection and information processing ability) to spot moving vs.
non moving targets, in low contrast situations. The added flashing acts as
motion to the eye, giving an edge in recognition ability.
--
Jim in NC

[John Clear]

In article >,
Skywise > wrote:
>
>AKA target fixation? "ooOOOoo...what's the pretty flashing light
>up ahead?....ooohh...****!" <insert sounds of crunching metal here>

That's why the California Highway Patrol turns off all the flashy
lights after pulling someone over. A 'random' car parked on the
shoulder is less of a target then one with the flashy lights going.

John
--
John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/

[Jim Logajan]

"Denny" > wrote:
> BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
> interviews and clears everyone, including the President, in and out of
> the country...

Um, so who interviews and clears the customs agent?

[Skywise]

Jim Logajan > wrote in news:Xns976CAE9C51DB5JamesLLugojcom@
216.168.3.30:

> "Denny" > wrote:
>> BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
>> interviews and clears everyone, including the President, in and out of
>> the country...
>
> Um, so who interviews and clears the customs agent?
>

Another customs agent! But who interviews HIM? Yet another one!

You can't fool me! It's custom agents all the way down!

:)

Brian
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[Icebound]

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote in message
...
>
> "Newps" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
>>> interviews and clears everyone, including the President,
>>
>> No way there is any customs agents of any kind on AF1 so they can clear
>> the President back into the country.
>
>
> I doubt it is for the President or even his staff. They would all be
> carrying diplomatic passports anyway.


I thought a citizen of the United States, Presidents included, had to abide
by the LAWS of the United States.

I thought a diplomatic passport permits the citizens of OTHER countries in
certain circumstances to be EXEMPT from the laws of the United States (and
a US citizen's diplomatic passport equals the same privilege in those other
countries).

But a US citizen in the US equals US Laws... all of them. Is that not
correct???

[Icebound]

"Skywise" > wrote in message
...
> Jim Logajan > wrote in
> news:Xns976CAE9C51DB5JamesLLugojcom@
> 216.168.3.30:
>
>> "Denny" > wrote:
>>> BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
>>> interviews and clears everyone, including the President, in and out of
>>> the country...
>>
>> Um, so who interviews and clears the customs agent?
>>
>
> Another customs agent! But who interviews HIM? Yet another one!
>
> You can't fool me! It's custom agents all the way down!
>


The on-board agent would be interviewed upon arrival, by a US-based agent
who was not out of the country and therefore would himself not have to be
interviewed.

[Rachel]

Icebound wrote:
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote in message
> ...
>
>>"Newps" > wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
>>>>interviews and clears everyone, including the President,
>>>
>>>No way there is any customs agents of any kind on AF1 so they can clear
>>>the President back into the country.
>>
>>
>>I doubt it is for the President or even his staff. They would all be
>>carrying diplomatic passports anyway.
>
>
>
> I thought a citizen of the United States, Presidents included, had to abide
> by the LAWS of the United States.

Tell that to the President of the United States.

[Jose]

> I thought a citizen of the United States, Presidents included, had to abide
> by the LAWS of the United States.

I thought so too, until the present adminstration.

Jose
--
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for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Bush]

Yes but the wig-wags on my GMC can really get me through some traffic!

Bush

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 01:01:19 +0000 (UTC),
(John Clear) wrote:

>In article >,
>Skywise > wrote:
>>
>>AKA target fixation? "ooOOOoo...what's the pretty flashing light
>>up ahead?....ooohh...****!" <insert sounds of crunching metal here>
>
>That's why the California Highway Patrol turns off all the flashy
>lights after pulling someone over. A 'random' car parked on the
>shoulder is less of a target then one with the flashy lights going.
>
>John

[Icebound]

"Icebound" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Newps" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
>>>> interviews and clears everyone, including the President,
>>>
>>> No way there is any customs agents of any kind on AF1 so they can clear
>>> the President back into the country.
>>
>>
>> I doubt it is for the President or even his staff. They would all be
>> carrying diplomatic passports anyway.
>
>
> I thought a citizen of the United States, Presidents included, had to
> abide by the LAWS of the United States.
>
> I thought a diplomatic passport permits the citizens of OTHER countries in
> certain circumstances to be EXEMPT from the laws of the United States
> (and a US citizen's diplomatic passport equals the same privilege in those
> other countries).
>
> But a US citizen in the US equals US Laws... all of them. Is that not
> correct???
>
>


And now that I think of it.... does not the diplomatic-immunity-from-customs
only extend to the so-called "diplomatic pouch" and that other luggage can
still be subject to inspection, even for those on a "diplomatic passport"???

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Jose" > wrote in message
et...
>>
>> I thought a citizen of the United States, Presidents included, had to
>> abide by the LAWS of the United States.
>>
>
> I thought so too, until the present adminstration.
>

So prior to the present administration you were unaware that Presidents did
not abide by the LAWS of the United States?

[Jose]

> So prior to the present administration you were unaware that Presidents did
> not abide by the LAWS of the United States?

Actually I was being metaphorical.

Jose
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