Australian Air Safari ??

[Tri-Pacer]

Has anyone any knowledge of an "Australian Air Safari" where pilots and
their families rent light aircraft and go on a guided tour around the
country?

As I understand it, several planes are led from place to place by a local
guide.

I had heard about this several years ago. Supposedly, the company arranges
for checkout and local certification, arranges the tour, etc.

Any info would be appreciated. Google turned up lots of charter operations,
but no self piloted tours.

I mentioned this to my wife and she said "Let's go!!!"

Cheers:

Paul

[Montblack]

("Tri-Pacer" wrote)
> Has anyone any knowledge of an "Australian Air Safari" where pilots and
> their families rent light aircraft and go on a guided tour around the
> country?

Are they the ones going out of business because of some NEW onerous security
regulations?

> I mentioned this to my wife and she said "Let's go!!!"

Marry that gal. Oh, I see you already did.


Montblack

[Jim Macklin]

The AOPA Pilot magazine has run articles about such tours,
you might contact the AOPA or search their AOPA PILOT
magazine back issues, maybe on-line.

AOPA Australia Online - Supporting Aviation Links to AOPA's
current advertisiers are now on the web! > More. © 2004-2005
Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association of Australia ACN 004
274 588 ...
www.aopa.com.au/infocentre/news.cfm - 35k - Cached -
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AOPA Australia Online - Supporting Aviation If you have a
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"Tri-Pacer" > wrote in message
. ..
| Has anyone any knowledge of an "Australian Air Safari"
where pilots and
| their families rent light aircraft and go on a guided tour
around the
| country?
|
| As I understand it, several planes are led from place to
place by a local
| guide.
|
| I had heard about this several years ago. Supposedly, the
company arranges
| for checkout and local certification, arranges the tour,
etc.
|
| Any info would be appreciated. Google turned up lots of
charter operations,
| but no self piloted tours.
|
| I mentioned this to my wife and she said "Let's go!!!"
|
| Cheers:
|
| Paul
|
|
|

[Eric Bartsch]

Unfortunately this company (GOANA Safari) did stop operating at the end
of 2005 due to new security regulations in Australia that made it
difficult for foreign pilots to get checked out in their planes. I had
always hoped to do this someday, but looks like I missed my chance.
They used to have a booth at Oshkosh with all of the information.

http://www.goana.com.au/main.htm

Eric
1959 Pilatus P-3
http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/index.html

[Jim Macklin]

All together now, "Thank you, Osama, not"

Seems the governments around the world are very good at
crafting oppressive rules.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Eric Bartsch" > wrote in message
ups.com...
| Unfortunately this company (GOANA Safari) did stop
operating at the end
| of 2005 due to new security regulations in Australia that
made it
| difficult for foreign pilots to get checked out in their
planes. I had
| always hoped to do this someday, but looks like I missed
my chance.
| They used to have a booth at Oshkosh with all of the
information.
|
| http://www.goana.com.au/main.htm
|
| Eric
| 1959 Pilatus P-3
| http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/index.html
|

[Jose]

> All together now, "Thank you, Osama, not"

Osama has little to do with it. It is the paranoia of government. Just
like the panic in the streets of DC when the errant C150 strayed into
their precious airspace.

Jose
--
Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Jim Macklin]

Osama did provide the "cover story" to allow the government
to do what many had wanted to do all along. At least in the
USA "we the people" can still get the rules changed when we
get involved, but too many don't see the real problems,
they're just glad the government "has done something."


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Jose" > wrote in message
. ..
|> All together now, "Thank you, Osama, not"
|
| Osama has little to do with it. It is the paranoia of
government. Just
| like the panic in the streets of DC when the errant C150
strayed into
| their precious airspace.
|
| Jose
| --
| Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
| for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Margy]

Tri-Pacer wrote:
> Has anyone any knowledge of an "Australian Air Safari" where pilots and
> their families rent light aircraft and go on a guided tour around the
> country?
>
> As I understand it, several planes are led from place to place by a local
> guide.
>
> I had heard about this several years ago. Supposedly, the company arranges
> for checkout and local certification, arranges the tour, etc.
>
> Any info would be appreciated. Google turned up lots of charter operations,
> but no self piloted tours.
>
> I mentioned this to my wife and she said "Let's go!!!"
>
> Cheers:
>
> Paul
>
>
>
Sadly, they are out of business. We went on one of the tours last
summer and it was the best time we've ever had. LOTS of flying, lots of
fun, great folks. Too bad they are gone.

Margy

[Ron Natalie]

Tri-Pacer wrote:
> Has anyone any knowledge of an "Australian Air Safari" where pilots and
> their families rent light aircraft and go on a guided tour around the
> country?

Goana Air Safaris was doing this for years. I did it last July.
Unfortunately, the recent security rules make it near impossible
to bring in foreign pilots to fly in Australia and that drove the
company out of business.

[Ron Natalie]

Eric Bartsch wrote:
> Unfortunately this company (GOANA Safari) did stop operating at the end
> of 2005 due to new security regulations in Australia that made it
> difficult for foreign pilots to get checked out in their planes. I had
> always hoped to do this someday, but looks like I missed my chance.
> They used to have a booth at Oshkosh with all of the information.
>
It's not the checkout. I got checked out under the new rules (I
essentially had to do a full up BFR, just added an additional day).

What killed them is that to go into any airport with scheduled
air service (and we're talking about nowhere airports without
even a fence around them) you need a security card. The Australian
bureaucracy won't even start processing cards for foreigners until
you get to Australia which means you'd have to allocate a couple
of extra weeks in front of the tour to push papers.

[Tri-Pacer]

"
> Unfortunately this company (GOANA Safari) did stop operating at the end
> of 2005 due to new security regulations in Australia that made it
>

Damn a day late and a dollar short.

Thanks for the info.

Paul
N1431A

[d&tm]

"Tri-Pacer" > wrote in message
. ..
> Has anyone any knowledge of an "Australian Air Safari" where pilots and
> their families rent light aircraft and go on a guided tour around the
> country?
>
> As I understand it, several planes are led from place to place by a local
> guide.
>
> I had heard about this several years ago. Supposedly, the company arranges
> for checkout and local certification, arranges the tour, etc.
>
> Any info would be appreciated. Google turned up lots of charter
operations,
> but no self piloted tours.
>
> I mentioned this to my wife and she said "Let's go!!!"
>
Paul

Stawell Aviation Services is advertising 2006 outback airtours with dates of
May through to September. There is a big write up (9 pages ) about one of
their outback Safaris in the Nov/Dec 05 Australian flying magazine. Happy
to fax you a copy if you want to email me your fax number. Or you might
want to give them a call , their phone number is
61 3 5358 3822 and Graham Boatman is the owner and he has been doing these
tours apparently for 20 years. ( the 61 is the australian code) .
Stawell is a small town in the West of the state of Victoria. They take a
fleet of their own aircraft and also allow others to bring along their own
aircraft. I am not sure about the security issues, there is a big backlog
of Australian pilots waiting to get their new security cards.
Terry
PPL downunder

[Kevin Black]

That would be optimistic. Australian GA pilots have been waiting almost a
year for the new Aviation ID cards (which are useless, because you actually
need an ASIC Aviation Security Identification Card). The regulatory
authority has a backlog of 23000 and some think the wait will be 12 months.
If you haven't applied for one by 31 Dec 06 then landing at any airport with
regular public transport (just about every airport in Australia) then you
can get busted with a $2,200 fine for each infringement.

If the toursists go to the back of the queue then you better have a year or
so to drive around the country before contemplating flying yourself
anywhere. It is bureacracy gone totally insane handled in a totally inept
way that is killing an already suffering GA community. See posts on
Rec.Aus.Aviation...

And yes AAS has closed its doors to the best of my knowledge. There was a
press release towards the end of last year announcing same citing the
bureacracy/secuirty issues as the prime cause.

Cheers,
Kevin

"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
> Eric Bartsch wrote:
>> Unfortunately this company (GOANA Safari) did stop operating at the end
>> of 2005 due to new security regulations in Australia that made it
>> difficult for foreign pilots to get checked out in their planes. I had
>> always hoped to do this someday, but looks like I missed my chance.
>> They used to have a booth at Oshkosh with all of the information.
>>
> It's not the checkout. I got checked out under the new rules (I
> essentially had to do a full up BFR, just added an additional day).
>
> What killed them is that to go into any airport with scheduled
> air service (and we're talking about nowhere airports without
> even a fence around them) you need a security card. The Australian
> bureaucracy won't even start processing cards for foreigners until
> you get to Australia which means you'd have to allocate a couple
> of extra weeks in front of the tour to push papers.