Getting a Power rating

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I have my Glider ticket and want to get a power rating. Eventually I
want to get a tow rating. What do I have to do?

Bob

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[Tony Verhulst]

wrote:
> I have my Glider ticket and want to get a power rating. Eventually I
> want to get a tow rating. What do I have to do?

Knowing what country might help. In any case, it will be clearly
specified in your country's regulations.

Tony V.

[Terry]

In the USA, this is governed by 14CFR 61.109(a). Basically if you have
18 hours in gliders with at least 8 hours dual, then you can meet the
ASEL requirements with 12 dual and 10 solo hours in a single engine
airplane. In order to complete that fast, you will need to be prepared
for each minute of your lessons. You also will need to pass the FAA
knowledge test for Private Pilot airplane.

Your instructor needs to be as prepared as well. Be sure he has a
syllabus that takes advantage of your experiences. Good luck with your
training.

Terry

[Terry]

Todd,

My post paraphrased a legal interpretation from the FAA Eastern Region
General Council. It is posted on the AOPA forum and I have copy if you
need it. Dual is dual and unless the regulation specifically says
"airplane" or "single engine airplane" your glider time whether
instruction received or PIC count towards the larger totals.

Cheers.
Terry

[Vaughn]

> wrote in message
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>I have my Glider ticket and want to get a power rating. Eventually I
> want to get a tow rating. What do I have to do?

The others have covered the legalities (assuming you are in the US) and, if
you are a Private Pilot, you should be familiar enough withe the FARS to look up
the legal and procedural part yourself. I would like to take a moment to
discuss the "other stuff".

First of all, you will find the average power instructor woefully ignorant
about soaring. I suggest that you take your new instructor for a glider ride so
that he can have some minimal concept of the environment in which you have been
flying. Having done that; CLAM UP, turn on your ears, your brain and your
humility, act like any other student, and insist that your instructor assume
nothing. You will find that much of the ignorance goes both ways and you have
much to learn (and unlearn).

After several years flying gliders as a CFIG and commercial rides pilot, I
finally got a power rating just a year or so ago. It took me significantly more
than the minimum number of hours. My checkride was a humbling experience (yes,
I passed). I entertained the examiner (not) by forgetting to add power while
doing a stall recovery!

Vaughn (CFIG)


>
> Bob
>

[JS]

Cross-country glider flights in which you landed more than 50NM from
where you took off also count towards the single engine requirements.

[Terry]

JS wrote:
> Cross-country glider flights in which you landed more than 50NM from
> where you took off also count towards the single engine requirements.
================================================== ===

Negative, JS. See 61.109(a)(5)(i):
"10 hours of solo flight time in a single-engine airplane, consisting
of at least--
[i] 5 hours of solo cross country time."

Your glider cross countries can count towards commercial or ATP, but
not private. Look to the requirements of each certificate and apply.
I do not know how any DPE could verify that the farmer's field you
landed in was at least 50 NM from your departure for commercial or
instrument. Good luck with that.

Terry C

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Terry wrote:
> JS wrote:
> > Cross-country glider flights in which you landed more than 50NM from
> > where you took off also count towards the single engine requirements.
> ================================================== ===
>
> Negative, JS. See 61.109(a)(5)(i):
> "10 hours of solo flight time in a single-engine airplane, consisting
> of at least--
> [i] 5 hours of solo cross country time."
>
> Your glider cross countries can count towards commercial or ATP, but
> not private. Look to the requirements of each certificate and apply.
> I do not know how any DPE could verify that the farmer's field you
> landed in was at least 50 NM from your departure for commercial or
> instrument. Good luck with that.

I was able to use my glider cross country time for about half of the
power solo requirements. The date, takeoff and landing points were
logged and signed in my log book. My instructor and examiner took that
on face value. It saved me about $1,000 at the time (now it will be
more like $1,600).

Tom Seim
Richland, WA