Re: Physics Professor's Peer Reviewed Paper on WTC CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS on 9/11

[RAK]

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> In other words, you won't find any people using terms like kook, tin foil
> hat, or any other childish terms. The people who understand his
> scientific evidence are clear minded and not closed asshole headed like a
> lot of people in this newsgroup seem to be. You people are pathetic.
>
>
> You stupid people don't know anything about anything when it comes to
> 9/11.
>

Perhaps I would take more notice of your arguements if you did not
automatically assume that I, being in the news group, must be a "tin foil
hat" (whatever that is), "pathetic" and "stupid", etc. If you jump to that
conclusion about me when you do not know a single thing about me (except
that I am in this group) then I really find it hard tohave any faith in your
ability to judge other issues.

Insulting people is not a good way to get them on your side.


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[TRUTH]

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> "TRUTH" > wrote in message
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>> In other words, you won't find any people using terms like kook, tin
>> foil hat, or any other childish terms. The people who understand his
>> scientific evidence are clear minded and not closed asshole headed
>> like a lot of people in this newsgroup seem to be. You people are
>> pathetic.
>>
>>
>> You stupid people don't know anything about anything when it comes to
>> 9/11.
>>
>
> Perhaps I would take more notice of your arguements if you did not
> automatically assume that I, being in the news group, must be a "tin
> foil hat" (whatever that is), "pathetic" and "stupid", etc. If you
> jump to that conclusion about me when you do not know a single thing
> about me (except that I am in this group) then I really find it hard
> tohave any faith in your ability to judge other issues.
>
> Insulting people is not a good way to get them on your side.
>
>
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Don't get me wrong. Those comments by me above were directly solely to
the people who already insulted, and said similar things as above to me.

[RAK]

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>>> In other words, you won't find any people using terms like kook, tin
>>> foil hat, or any other childish terms. The people who understand his
>>> scientific evidence are clear minded and not closed asshole headed
>>> like a lot of people in this newsgroup seem to be. You people are
>>> pathetic.
>>>
>>>
>>> You stupid people don't know anything about anything when it comes to
>>> 9/11.
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps I would take more notice of your arguements if you did not
>> automatically assume that I, being in the news group, must be a "tin
>> foil hat" (whatever that is), "pathetic" and "stupid", etc. If you
>> jump to that conclusion about me when you do not know a single thing
>> about me (except that I am in this group) then I really find it hard
>> tohave any faith in your ability to judge other issues.
>>
>> Insulting people is not a good way to get them on your side.
>>
>>
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>
> Don't get me wrong. Those comments by me above were directly solely to
> the people who already insulted, and said similar things as above to me.

OK, but that was certainly not clear to me from the first message from you
in a new topic/thread.
Not everyone follows the history of insults in the group - it would be more
than a full time job I fear!

I have read some of the stuff in your links, especially links to the
"straight" media. Lots of intersting stuff, but I still find it extremely
hard to believe that the govt could do something so complicated (and evil)
and manage to cover it up; so many people would be involved.
It would be interesting to read an unbiased, balanced and competent review
of the issues if there is one; most of what I see it very one-sided, one way
or the other, and too much is hysterically biased.


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>>>>
>>>> In other words, you won't find any people using terms like kook,
>>>> tin foil hat, or any other childish terms. The people who
>>>> understand his scientific evidence are clear minded and not closed
>>>> asshole headed like a lot of people in this newsgroup seem to be.
>>>> You people are pathetic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You stupid people don't know anything about anything when it comes
>>>> to 9/11.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps I would take more notice of your arguements if you did not
>>> automatically assume that I, being in the news group, must be a "tin
>>> foil hat" (whatever that is), "pathetic" and "stupid", etc. If you
>>> jump to that conclusion about me when you do not know a single thing
>>> about me (except that I am in this group) then I really find it hard
>>> tohave any faith in your ability to judge other issues.
>>>
>>> Insulting people is not a good way to get them on your side.
>>>
>>>
>>> *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***
>>> *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from
>>> http://www.SecureIX.com ***
>>>
>>
>>
>> Don't get me wrong. Those comments by me above were directly solely
>> to the people who already insulted, and said similar things as above
>> to me.
>
> OK, but that was certainly not clear to me from the first message from
> you in a new topic/thread.
> Not everyone follows the history of insults in the group - it would be
> more than a full time job I fear!
>
> I have read some of the stuff in your links, especially links to the
> "straight" media. Lots of intersting stuff, but I still find it
> extremely hard to believe that the govt could do something so
> complicated (and evil) and manage to cover it up; so many people would
> be involved. It would be interesting to read an unbiased, balanced and
> competent review of the issues if there is one; most of what I see it
> very one-sided, one way or the other, and too much is hysterically
> biased.
>
>
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Thank you for your comments! You are definitely interesting in learning
about this.


9/11 was for the purpose of building public support to invade Iraq and
afghanistan. The US government has been doing this for a long time.
Recently declassified tapes show that the US created terror in the Gulf of
Tonkin to build public support to invade Vietnam is one example.


bin Laden was trained and funded by the CIA in the 70s. Bush Sr gave WMD to
Saddam in the 80s.


There's interesting information here (the first link does not work though.)
In particular look at the Operation Northwoods and Bush/Nazi connection
http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewtopic.php?p=24588#24588

Also see here:
http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html




Also some interesting articles:



How, exactly, is the "War on Terror" helping?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1512597,00.html
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1036687,00.html



Why Invade Afghanistan?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1840182.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2608713.stm



Why invade Iraq?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/3032147.stm
http://tinyurl.com/2kp45 (AMERICAN FREE PRESS)
http://tinyurl.com/da23y (ABC NEWS)



Bush 'plotted to lure Saddam into war with fake UN plane'
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article342859.ece


Blair-Bush deal before Iraq war revealed in secret memo
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,,1700881,00.html


Ex-CIA Official Faults Use of Data on Iraq
Intelligence 'Misused' to Justify War, He Says
http://tinyurl.com/c84fg (WASHINGTON POST)


Powell's former chief of staff on Iraq intel: 'I participated in a hoax'
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Powells_former_chief_of_staff_on_0205.html

[RAK]

OK. but don't get too optimistic! There is interesting material but I still
find the whole conspiracy thing very hard to take, especially the idea that
all those explosive charges could be planted with no-one noticing, and that
no-one in the presumably large team involved has not gone public.
I was fully aware of some of the early support for Bin Laden and Saddam, and
(as a Brit who government was roughly in line with US actions) I was opposed
to it at the time, having travelled in Afghanistan and Iraq previously and
having at least a basic knowledge of the very dodgy people we were helping
out (Gulbaddin Hekmakteyar too, however you spell it!)

I shall read on when I have time but as a sceptic, far from a convert :)

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>> OK, but that was certainly not clear to me from the first message from
>> you in a new topic/thread.
>> Not everyone follows the history of insults in the group - it would be
>> more than a full time job I fear!
>>
>> I have read some of the stuff in your links, especially links to the
>> "straight" media. Lots of intersting stuff, but I still find it
>> extremely hard to believe that the govt could do something so
>> complicated (and evil) and manage to cover it up; so many people would
>> be involved. It would be interesting to read an unbiased, balanced and
>> competent review of the issues if there is one; most of what I see it
>> very one-sided, one way or the other, and too much is hysterically
>> biased.
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> Thank you for your comments! You are definitely interesting in learning
> about this.
>
>
> 9/11 was for the purpose of building public support to invade Iraq and
> afghanistan. The US government has been doing this for a long time.
> Recently declassified tapes show that the US created terror in the Gulf of
> Tonkin to build public support to invade Vietnam is one example.
>
>
> bin Laden was trained and funded by the CIA in the 70s. Bush Sr gave WMD
> to
> Saddam in the 80s.
>
>
> There's interesting information here (the first link does not work
> though.)
> In particular look at the Operation Northwoods and Bush/Nazi connection
> http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewtopic.php?p=24588#24588
>
> Also see here:
> http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html
>
>
>
>
> Also some interesting articles:
>
>
>
> How, exactly, is the "War on Terror" helping?
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1512597,00.html
> http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1036687,00.html
>
>
>
> Why Invade Afghanistan?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1840182.stm
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2608713.stm
>
>
>
> Why invade Iraq?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm
>
>
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/3032147.stm
> http://tinyurl.com/2kp45 (AMERICAN FREE PRESS)
> http://tinyurl.com/da23y (ABC NEWS)
>
>
>
> Bush 'plotted to lure Saddam into war with fake UN plane'
> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article342859.ece
>
>
> Blair-Bush deal before Iraq war revealed in secret memo
> http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,,1700881,00.html
>
>
> Ex-CIA Official Faults Use of Data on Iraq
> Intelligence 'Misused' to Justify War, He Says
> http://tinyurl.com/c84fg (WASHINGTON POST)
>
>
> Powell's former chief of staff on Iraq intel: 'I participated in a hoax'
> http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Powells_former_chief_of_staff_on_0205.html


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"RAK" > wrote in
om:

> OK. but don't get too optimistic! There is interesting material but I
> still find the whole conspiracy thing very hard to take, especially
> the idea that all those explosive charges could be planted with no-one
> noticing, and that no-one in the presumably large team involved has
> not gone public. I was fully aware of some of the early support for
> Bin Laden and Saddam, and (as a Brit who government was roughly in
> line with US actions) I was opposed to it at the time, having
> travelled in Afghanistan and Iraq previously and having at least a
> basic knowledge of the very dodgy people we were helping out
> (Gulbaddin Hekmakteyar too, however you spell it!)
>
> I shall read on when I have time but as a sceptic, far from a convert
> :)
>




Take your time. I am glad you have an open mind