Posting idea??

[Montblack]

With all of these nonsense posts/threads ...I have an idea:

If someone (or many of us at one time) would reply to these threads, but
remove rec.aviation - would the thread then follow that post - with rec
aviation removed? Throw the hounds off our scent so to speak. Could it work?

Regardless if it will work or not, if people want to post to (outside group)
nonsense threads, would it be too much to ask you to remove rec.aviation
from your reply? Thanks.

Go play in their sandbox if that sounds fun, but come back here - alone. We
really don't want those other newsgroups playing in our sandbox. They smell.


Montblack
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096256/
They Live (1988)

[Peter Duniho]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> If someone (or many of us at one time) would reply to these threads, but
> remove rec.aviation - would the thread then follow that post - with rec
> aviation removed? Throw the hounds off our scent so to speak. Could it
> work?

Only for the replies to posts made by people who remove this newsgroup.
Other posts (generally, those from people outside this newsgroup) would
continue to show up here, because no one else will bother to remove this
newsgroup.

> Regardless if it will work or not, if people want to post to (outside
> group) nonsense threads, would it be too much to ask you to remove
> rec.aviation from your reply? Thanks.

IMHO, that's essentially the same suggestion. :) And I do agree that if
anyone here really wants to get suckered into responding to one of these
threads, they certainly should not leave this newsgroup in the list. But
since (one hopes) most of the replies are from people outside this
newsgroup, doing so isn't going to decrease the traffic from those threads
very much.

I find junking the entire thread to be very effective (not just marking it
as read). I use Outlook Express's "Ignore Conversation" command, along with
a message view that hides all ignored messages to get them out of my
awareness entirely. The only hint that they continue is the unread message
count for the newsgroup.

Pete

[Mark Hansen]

On 02/23/06 13:41, Montblack wrote:
> With all of these nonsense posts/threads ...I have an idea:
>
> If someone (or many of us at one time) would reply to these threads, but
> remove rec.aviation - would the thread then follow that post - with rec
> aviation removed? Throw the hounds off our scent so to speak. Could it work?

Except for those that just respond to the original article, and replies to
that, etc.

>
> Regardless if it will work or not, if people want to post to (outside group)
> nonsense threads, would it be too much to ask you to remove rec.aviation
> from your reply? Thanks.

This is the real answer. Really, the nutballs should just be ignored. However,
I guess that is just asking too much ;-\

I rarely respond to the OT posts (I don't think I ever have, but I hate to
say 'never'), but for those that must, it sure sounds like a solution, except
that some newsgroup has to be left in the list - which group should be punished?

>
> Go play in their sandbox if that sounds fun, but come back here - alone. We
> really don't want those other newsgroups playing in our sandbox. They smell.

I just [sigh...] don't think it will work, but it sure sounds nice, doesn't it?

Personally, I've never understood the desire some have to engage in those
threads. In most cases, they seem to be trying to prove to the nutball that
he/she is a nutball. Do they really think this is possible?

.... but now I'm getting off topic ;-)

>
>
> Montblack
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096256/
> They Live (1988)
>


--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

[Ross Richardson]

How about just ignoring them altogether and let them die. Do not be
tempted to reply.

Ross

Montblack wrote:

> With all of these nonsense posts/threads ...I have an idea:
>
> If someone (or many of us at one time) would reply to these threads, but
> remove rec.aviation - would the thread then follow that post - with rec
> aviation removed? Throw the hounds off our scent so to speak. Could it
> work?
>
> Regardless if it will work or not, if people want to post to (outside
> group) nonsense threads, would it be too much to ask you to remove
> rec.aviation from your reply? Thanks.
>
> Go play in their sandbox if that sounds fun, but come back here - alone.
> We really don't want those other newsgroups playing in our sandbox. They
> smell.
>
>
> Montblack
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096256/
> They Live (1988)

[Skywise]

"Montblack" > wrote in
:

> With all of these nonsense posts/threads ...I have an idea:
<Snipola>

Another idea, taken from some other groups I follow, is to
have a keyword in the subject line. Like, begin all subject
lines with "[piloting]". Then, just make one filter that
only lets in messages with that keyword and block all others.
This will greatly reduce crossposts from other groups. But
it will require all the regulars here to agree to this,
otherwise it won't work.

Probably not the best solution, but tendered nonetheless.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

[Mark Hansen]

On 02/23/06 15:38, Skywise wrote:
> "Montblack" > wrote in
> :
>
>> With all of these nonsense posts/threads ...I have an idea:
> <Snipola>
>
> Another idea, taken from some other groups I follow, is to
> have a keyword in the subject line. Like, begin all subject
> lines with "[piloting]". Then, just make one filter that
> only lets in messages with that keyword and block all others.
> This will greatly reduce crossposts from other groups. But
> it will require all the regulars here to agree to this,
> otherwise it won't work.

Actually, it would also require that any newcomers adhere to
it as well (even when they may not be aware of it - which will
make it pretty hard for them), or their posts would be ignored
by all the participating regulars.

.... just an observation, not trying to be critical ;-)

>
> Probably not the best solution, but tendered nonetheless.
>
> Brian


--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

[Larry Dighera]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:41:16 -0600, "Montblack"
> wrote in
>::

>I have an idea:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/software/good-netkeeping-seal/
Posting software SHOULD prevent the user from excessive
cross-posting, or at least warn against it. If posting to a very
large number of groups, the user SHOULD either be forced or
strongly suggested to set a "Followup-To" header.

[Skywise]

Mark Hansen > wrote in news:11vsig6llc9vdd9
@corp.supernews.com:

<Snipola>
> Actually, it would also require that any newcomers adhere to
> it as well (even when they may not be aware of it - which will
> make it pretty hard for them), or their posts would be ignored
> by all the participating regulars.
>
> ... just an observation, not trying to be critical ;-)

In the groups that I know that do this, there are a few people
that happen to not run with that filter and when they see a
ligit newcommer, they tell them about the filter.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

[Flyingmonk]

If it works, count me in.

The Monk

[Skywise]

Jose > wrote in news:BasLf.16793$tb3.7350
@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net:

>> begin all subject
>> lines with "[piloting]"
>
> It would also require spammers to not catch on.
>
> Jose

Spammers are interested in hitting as many groups as possible in
one go. They aren't going to take the time to check charters, or
lurk in a group to see what the 'rules' are, etc... Outsiders,
such as those who decide to crosspost their drivel from other
groups aren't going to know either.

Yes, there may be the occasional asshole who does take the time
to infiltrate the group, but since most don't it makes the few
exceptions much easier to deal with.

Of course, we could also go the communistic dictator censorship
route and complain to our news providers and let them decide what
we should or should not see. Sorry, just a jab at Supernews.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

[Viperdoc]

Is there a way to kill file a poster who uses multiple names?

I'm getting tired of even seeing the posts by the wacko who complains about
the instrument company.

[Larry Dighera]

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:44:39 GMT, "Viperdoc"
> wrote in
>::

>
>Is there a way to kill file a poster who uses multiple names?

That depends on two things.

If the offending poster is posting all his articles from the same IP
address, you can use that as the key for your filter rules.

Because you are using Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 as your
news reading client program, you may not be able to set its filter to
work that way. Consider Forte Agent: http://www.forteinc.com

[Jay Honeck]

> Is there a way to kill file a poster who uses multiple names?
>
> I'm getting tired of even seeing the posts by the wacko who complains
> about the instrument company.

I created a rule that says "Any post with 'Belfort' in it gets trashed."
It works great!

It'll be interesting to see if I'll be able to see my own post, now that
I've uttered the dreaded word...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Grumman-581]

"Ross Richardson" > wrote in message
...
> How about just ignoring them altogether and let them die. Do not be
> tempted to reply.

I've always thought that one should not let idiocy go unchallenged...
Unfortunately, there seems to be a lot to be challenged around here
lately... If my newsreader just had the option to ignore topics that are
crossposted to other newsgroups (especially ones to which I don't
subscribe), it would signficantly cut down on the crap...

[Peter Duniho]

"Grumman-581" > wrote in message
...
>> How about just ignoring them altogether and let them die. Do not be
>> tempted to reply.
>
> I've always thought that one should not let idiocy go unchallenged...

Generally a good rule. However, there are people who relish in producing
idiocy, just to keep people who don't like idiocy busy.

My general philosophy is that idiocy from people who are otherwise reputable
should not go unchallenged. That includes idiocy an otherwise reputable
person starts espousing as a result of repeating something an unreputable
person writes.

But idiocy from someone with no reputation, or with a reputation of
promulgating idiocy, need not be challenged. This is especially true for
idiocy that can't even pass basic "sniff tests" by reasonable and
intelligent people, such as tends to be the kind of idiocy that shows up
here.

You can't waste your time chasing down raw idiocy. There's just too much of
it, and any rational person isn't going to be taking it seriously anyway.
Challenging it is just a waste of time, and other resources.

Pete

[Jack Allison]

Montblack wrote:
> With all of these nonsense posts/threads ...I have an idea:

Best solution I've found: Mozilla Thunderbird and the 'k' key (ignore
thread). One keystroke and boom, thread ignored, end of story.

Second best solution (maybe better than my "best" above...but I have no
idea how to accomplish this one): Convince everyone to simply not feed
the trolls.

So Paul, to go even farther OT and/or hijack your thread here...how goes
PMC 2.0?


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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[Jack Allison]

Jay Honeck wrote:

> It'll be interesting to see if I'll be able to see my own post, now that
> I've uttered the dreaded word...
>
> ;-)
Spammer! :-)


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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