Good By

[Roger Long]

The more I looked into the insurance thing, the worse it got.

Thanks to all of you who helped make flying as interesting and
rewarding as it was for me.

No need to reply. I am un-subscribing from this newsgroup and putting
all things to do with aviation out of my mind for a while. I need to
focus on other things like working on the 32 foot sailboat I'm going
to sail to Newfound and Labrador in a few years. It's not like I
won't be having fun and some grand adventures.

--

Roger Long

[Montblack]

("Roger Long" wrote)
> No need to reply. I am un-subscribing from this newsgroup and putting all
> things to do with aviation out of my mind for a while. I need to focus on
> other things like working on the 32 foot sailboat I'm going to sail to
> Newfound and Labrador in a few years. It's not like I won't be having fun
> and some grand adventures.


Roger,

“To requite your gallonde [gallon] of godbwyes, I regive you a pottle of
howdyes."
(From the piece below my sig)

Good luck in your future adventures.

32-ft sailboat ...hmm. A WIG (Wing In Ground Effect) B-O-A-T would get you
there quicker. <g>

Something to think about. Of course it will need a well designed hull...


Montblack
I'll give you two pottle of howdyes if you stay! :-)

(From dictionary.com)
Word History:
No doubt more than one reader has wondered exactly how goodbye is derived
from the phrase “God be with you.” To understand this, it is helpful to see
earlier forms of the expression, such as God be wy you, god b'w'y, godbwye,
god buy' ye, and good-b'wy. The first word of the expression is now good and
not God, for good replaced God by analogy with such expressions as good day,
perhaps after people no longer had a clear idea of the original sense of the
expression. A letter of 1573 written by Gabriel Harvey contains the first
recorded use of goodbye: “To requite your gallonde [gallon] of godbwyes, I
regive you a pottle of howdyes,” recalling another contraction that is still
used.

[Jay Honeck]

> The more I looked into the insurance thing, the worse it got.
>
> Thanks to all of you who helped make flying as interesting and rewarding
> as it was for me.

Dammit, Roger, that's just crap. Insurance is NO reason to quit doing what
you clearly love to do.

I've read your stuff for years, both here and in emails -- you *need* to
fly, just as surely as you need to breathe. Don't let this happen.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Flyingmonk]

Persueing another very interesting adventure... many ways to enjoy
life's little treasures. Good luck to you and your adventure.

May I suggest you keep RAP and do 'hanger flying' with us and keep us
posted on your sailboat-retoration and sailing adventures. Remeber
that you have friends here.

Best wishes,
The Monk

[Jim Macklin]

Good buy, a bargain, worth the cost.
Good by, pass it by, not really a proper English usage.

Good Bye, so long, farewell, bye, bye.

Bi as in bilingual or bisexual


"Roger Long" > wrote in message
...
| The more I looked into the insurance thing, the worse it
got.
|
| Thanks to all of you who helped make flying as interesting
and
| rewarding as it was for me.
|
| No need to reply. I am un-subscribing from this newsgroup
and putting
| all things to do with aviation out of my mind for a while.
I need to
| focus on other things like working on the 32 foot sailboat
I'm going
| to sail to Newfound and Labrador in a few years. It's not
like I
| won't be having fun and some grand adventures.
|
| --
|
| Roger Long
|
|
|
|

[Montblack]

("Jim Macklin" wrote)
> Bi as in bilingual or bisexual


Biplane was out of reach?


Montblack

[Peter R.]

Montblack > wrote:

> ("Jim Macklin" wrote)
>> Bi as in bilingual or bisexual
>
> Biplane was out of reach?

Bicycle was the first word that came to my mind.

--
Peter

[Jim Macklin]

It was so obvious.


"Montblack" > wrote in
message ...
| ("Jim Macklin" wrote)
| > Bi as in bilingual or bisexual
|
|
| Biplane was out of reach?
|
|
| Montblack
|

[Jim Macklin]

Not controversial enough to spark a long thread.

Actually, bimetal came to mind as in thermostat coil.



"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
| Montblack > wrote:
|
| > ("Jim Macklin" wrote)
| >> Bi as in bilingual or bisexual
| >
| > Biplane was out of reach?
|
| Bicycle was the first word that came to my mind.
|
| --
| Peter

[sfb]

Sounds like a great plan until somebody gets a judgment against your
future earnings so all those toys you now have protected in trust might
be all you ever have.

"Denny" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Getting through life is a series of compromises... And sometimes the
> concious mind has to put up a straw man to justify what the
> subconcious
> has decided to do...
>
> First off, Roger doesn't need a million dollars of smooth coverage as
> a
> rider on his home insurance to safely fly... This is the straw man
> his
> concious mind has put up... Since he knew ahead of time that he can't
> get a million dollars of smooth coverage he now has an excuse to
> gracefully withdraw from the field of combat... Let him go and wish
> him well... You can check in on him at rec.boats.cruising...
>
> For those who may be concerned, "Gee, do I need a million dollar rider
> on my home insurance to protect my assets?", let me suggest that you
> spend a couple hundred dollars on a lawyer to draw up a family limited
> trust and put your house(s) and property(s) in trusts <hint, hint,
> Jay>... That protects them from being seized, in perpetuity, to pay
> off
> any judgement against you... You need to also create separate trusts
> for each boat, car, timeshare, business, and plane, that walls each
> item off from being attached due to a judgement against another
> item...
> i.e. crash the car into a school bus and they can't take the plane or
> your business...
>
> cheers ... denny
>

[Robet Coffey]

Good luck getting boat insurance under your umbrella policy. Hit one of
those 5M power yachts docking your boat or in the channel and you are
screwed. You will lose everything!


Roger Long wrote:
> The more I looked into the insurance thing, the worse it got.
>
> Thanks to all of you who helped make flying as interesting and
> rewarding as it was for me.
>
> No need to reply. I am un-subscribing from this newsgroup and putting
> all things to do with aviation out of my mind for a while. I need to
> focus on other things like working on the 32 foot sailboat I'm going
> to sail to Newfound and Labrador in a few years. It's not like I
> won't be having fun and some grand adventures.
>

[Jay Honeck]

> First off, Roger doesn't need a million dollars of smooth coverage as a
> rider on his home insurance to safely fly... This is the straw man his
> concious mind has put up... Since he knew ahead of time that he can't
> get a million dollars of smooth coverage he now has an excuse to
> gracefully withdraw from the field of combat... Let him go and wish
> him well...

I know all that, Denny -- but I also know Roger pretty well. We have
emailed "off-group" extensively over the years, and I know that he *needs*
to fly. It's not a "want" thing, with Roger -- it's a pathological
requirement for him.

In this, we are brothers. And it's going to kill him to be stuck on the
ground.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Denny]

I am sorry to hear that Jay, I truly am...
Liability insurance is just a mechanism to prevent your property from
being seized by our dysfunctional judicial system...
I simply pointed out that congress has in it's wisdom <a true rarity>
provided another mechanism called trusts for exactly the same purpose
....

denny

[Dave Stadt]

"Robet Coffey" > wrote in message
news:A0FNf.12610$XE6.4214@trnddc07...
> Good luck getting boat insurance under your umbrella policy. Hit one of
> those 5M power yachts docking your boat or in the channel and you are
> screwed. You will lose everything!

Naaah, high levels of liability insurance for sail boats is very reasonable.
Hard to do much damage when you are doing a couple of knots. Collisions are
nearly unheard of except when racing.


>
> Roger Long wrote:
>> The more I looked into the insurance thing, the worse it got.
>>
>> Thanks to all of you who helped make flying as interesting and rewarding
>> as it was for me.
>>
>> No need to reply. I am un-subscribing from this newsgroup and putting
>> all things to do with aviation out of my mind for a while. I need to
>> focus on other things like working on the 32 foot sailboat I'm going to
>> sail to Newfound and Labrador in a few years. It's not like I won't be
>> having fun and some grand adventures.
>>

[Roy Smith]

Robet Coffey > wrote:
> Good luck getting boat insurance under your umbrella policy. Hit one of
> those 5M power yachts docking your boat or in the channel and you are
> screwed. You will lose everything!

That's absurd. My ($3M) umbrella covers the liability on my boat.

[ET]

"sfb" > wrote in news:QCCNf.32774$%v4.19984@trnddc03:

> Sounds like a great plan until somebody gets a judgment against your
> future earnings so all those toys you now have protected in trust
> might be all you ever have.
>
> "Denny" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> Getting through life is a series of compromises... And sometimes the
>> concious mind has to put up a straw man to justify what the
>> subconcious
>> has decided to do...
>>
>> First off, Roger doesn't need a million dollars of smooth coverage as
>> a
>> rider on his home insurance to safely fly... This is the straw man
>> his
>> concious mind has put up... Since he knew ahead of time that he can't
>> get a million dollars of smooth coverage he now has an excuse to
>> gracefully withdraw from the field of combat... Let him go and wish
>> him well... You can check in on him at rec.boats.cruising...
>>
>> For those who may be concerned, "Gee, do I need a million dollar
>> rider on my home insurance to protect my assets?", let me suggest
>> that you spend a couple hundred dollars on a lawyer to draw up a
>> family limited trust and put your house(s) and property(s) in trusts
>> <hint, hint, Jay>... That protects them from being seized, in
>> perpetuity, to pay off
>> any judgement against you... You need to also create separate trusts
>> for each boat, car, timeshare, business, and plane, that walls each
>> item off from being attached due to a judgement against another
>> item...
>> i.e. crash the car into a school bus and they can't take the plane or
>> your business...
>>
>> cheers ... denny
>>
>
>

You dont even need that in many states, check your states judgement and
bankrupcy laws before you get to excited....

--
-- ET >:-)

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

[Roger]

On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:09:38 GMT, ET > wrote:

>"sfb" > wrote in news:QCCNf.32774$%v4.19984@trnddc03:
>
>> Sounds like a great plan until somebody gets a judgment against your
>> future earnings so all those toys you now have protected in trust
>> might be all you ever have.
>>
>> "Denny" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>> Getting through life is a series of compromises... And sometimes the
>>> concious mind has to put up a straw man to justify what the
>>> subconcious
>>> has decided to do...
>>>
>>> First off, Roger doesn't need a million dollars of smooth coverage as
>>> a
>>> rider on his home insurance to safely fly... This is the straw man
>>> his
>>> concious mind has put up... Since he knew ahead of time that he can't
>>> get a million dollars of smooth coverage he now has an excuse to
>>> gracefully withdraw from the field of combat... Let him go and wish
>>> him well... You can check in on him at rec.boats.cruising...
>>>
>>> For those who may be concerned, "Gee, do I need a million dollar
>>> rider on my home insurance to protect my assets?", let me suggest
>>> that you spend a couple hundred dollars on a lawyer to draw up a
>>> family limited trust and put your house(s) and property(s) in trusts
>>> <hint, hint, Jay>... That protects them from being seized, in
>>> perpetuity, to pay off
>>> any judgement against you... You need to also create separate trusts
>>> for each boat, car, timeshare, business, and plane, that walls each
>>> item off from being attached due to a judgement against another
>>> item...
>>> i.e. crash the car into a school bus and they can't take the plane or
>>> your business...
>>>

Different Roger:
I do not cary a rider on my home owners or any other policy...well...
with the exception of my ham antenna tower which is the only way I
could get it insured for the full value.

Actually people whould have those trusts set up any way even if they
don't have a lot of toys.

A person should own little while the trust, or trusts should own darn
near everything. Just don't put your airplane and car in the same
trust as they rest of your belongings.

With a trust, or trusts properly set up along with a will, you can do
a lot of stipulating, some times called "control from beyond the
grave". Plus, if you buy the farm, a trust can save those left
behind a lot of grief.

I can't imagine not having a trust set up.

But trusts and probate are handled differently in different states.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

1
>>> cheers ... denny
>>>
>>
>>
>
>You dont even need that in many states, check your states judgement and
>bankrupcy laws before you get to excited....