Goldfish

[Jim Culp]

It was discovered recently
that taking of goldish
for glider rides
gives very splendid topic of conversation at the field
during the day, and in the bar or on the field drinking
locations in the even after flying.



Further, in two seaters it is easier to get females
to ride with a pilot when asked to fly as a crewmember,
in crew-role; whereupon she would hold the little fishies
in clear fishbag to do her duty for the pleasure of
the fish.

Women enjoy live creature care. Dont know why, but
they do.

Prepare with a clear plastic bag with a pint or two
of water and several gold fishies;

that gives the woman a proper
Sense Of Purpose
at the airfield
and
while she is aboard
with you being the Master Airman,
in your natural fearless commanding role. .

We did this in south Mississippi but the only fish
we could get our hands on in the rush of the time to
get the gliders ready to fly that day was a catfish
out of a muddy ditch, and we had to use large plastic
bag.

Only problem was we had to fly overgrossed
due to the only woman available to fly with me was
overlygrossed in and of herself.

Lawdy Lawdy Miss Claudy,
you dont know whatcha do to me. .


Be of good heart.

Jim Culp USA
GatorCity Florida
where it is 84F today,
with blue sky and cumulus
and migrating Sandhill Cranes going north wheelin
around on thermals and moving on back to V formation
as they turn north again and reform the
Vs pointed north. Beautiful sounds as they chortle.

They make plenty of beautiful noise as they climb and
glide.

[Malcolm Austin]

I see the winter (SAD) lack of flying is getting to you. Do you have the
correct tables ;-)

Don't worry summer and thermals are only weeks away (or months in my
case in the north of the UK)

Malcolm...


"Jim Culp" > wrote in message
...
>
> It was discovered recently
> that taking of goldish
> for glider rides
> gives very splendid topic of conversation at the field
> during the day, and in the bar or on the field drinking
> locations in the even after flying.
>
>
>
> Further, in two seaters it is easier to get females
> to ride with a pilot when asked to fly as a crewmember,
> in crew-role; whereupon she would hold the little fishies
> in clear fishbag to do her duty for the pleasure of
> the fish.
>
> Women enjoy live creature care. Dont know why, but
> they do.
>
> Prepare with a clear plastic bag with a pint or two
> of water and several gold fishies;
>
> that gives the woman a proper
> Sense Of Purpose
> at the airfield
> and
> while she is aboard
> with you being the Master Airman,
> in your natural fearless commanding role. .
>
> We did this in south Mississippi but the only fish
> we could get our hands on in the rush of the time to
> get the gliders ready to fly that day was a catfish
> out of a muddy ditch, and we had to use large plastic
> bag.
>
> Only problem was we had to fly overgrossed
> due to the only woman available to fly with me was
> overlygrossed in and of herself.
>
> Lawdy Lawdy Miss Claudy,
> you dont know whatcha do to me. .
>
>
> Be of good heart.
>
> Jim Culp USA
> GatorCity Florida
> where it is 84F today,
> with blue sky and cumulus
> and migrating Sandhill Cranes going north wheelin
> around on thermals and moving on back to V formation
> as they turn north again and reform the
> Vs pointed north. Beautiful sounds as they chortle.
>
> They make plenty of beautiful noise as they climb and
> glide.
>
>
>
>
>

[Wallace Berry]

In article >, Jim Culp >
wrote:

> It was discovered recently
> that taking of goldish
> for glider rides
> gives very splendid topic of conversation at the field
> during the day, and in the bar or on the field drinking
> locations in the even after flying.
>
>
>
> Further, in two seaters it is easier to get females
> to ride with a pilot when asked to fly as a crewmember,
> in crew-role; whereupon she would hold the little fishies
> in clear fishbag to do her duty for the pleasure of
> the fish.
>
ROFLMAO!

Thanks Jim.

Hope to see those Sandhills over the Chattahoochee valley this weekend.
I always hear them before I see them...


> Women enjoy live creature care. Dont know why, but
> they do.
>
> Prepare with a clear plastic bag with a pint or two
> of water and several gold fishies;
>
> that gives the woman a proper
> Sense Of Purpose
> at the airfield
> and
> while she is aboard
> with you being the Master Airman,
> in your natural fearless commanding role. .
>
> We did this in south Mississippi but the only fish
> we could get our hands on in the rush of the time to
> get the gliders ready to fly that day was a catfish
> out of a muddy ditch, and we had to use large plastic
> bag.
>
> Only problem was we had to fly overgrossed
> due to the only woman available to fly with me was
> overlygrossed in and of herself.
>
> Lawdy Lawdy Miss Claudy,
> you dont know whatcha do to me. .
>
>
> Be of good heart.
>
> Jim Culp USA
> GatorCity Florida
> where it is 84F today,
> with blue sky and cumulus
> and migrating Sandhill Cranes going north wheelin
> around on thermals and moving on back to V formation
> as they turn north again and reform the
> Vs pointed north. Beautiful sounds as they chortle.
>
> They make plenty of beautiful noise as they climb and
> glide.
>
>
>
>
>

[Chris Wedgwood]

I can't begin to describe how inappropriate it is to use a creature like
this for your own pleasure.

Do you think the fish will have no pain when you subject them to atmospheric
pressure way below that to which they have evolved?

Chris

"Jim Culp" > wrote in message
...
>
> It was discovered recently
> that taking of goldish
> for glider rides
> gives very splendid topic of conversation at the field
> during the day, and in the bar or on the field drinking
> locations in the even after flying.
>
>
>
> Further, in two seaters it is easier to get females
> to ride with a pilot when asked to fly as a crewmember,
> in crew-role; whereupon she would hold the little fishies
> in clear fishbag to do her duty for the pleasure of
> the fish.
>
> Women enjoy live creature care. Dont know why, but
> they do.
>
> Prepare with a clear plastic bag with a pint or two
> of water and several gold fishies;
>
> that gives the woman a proper
> Sense Of Purpose
> at the airfield
> and
> while she is aboard
> with you being the Master Airman,
> in your natural fearless commanding role. .
>
> We did this in south Mississippi but the only fish
> we could get our hands on in the rush of the time to
> get the gliders ready to fly that day was a catfish
> out of a muddy ditch, and we had to use large plastic
> bag.
>
> Only problem was we had to fly overgrossed
> due to the only woman available to fly with me was
> overlygrossed in and of herself.
>
> Lawdy Lawdy Miss Claudy,
> you dont know whatcha do to me. .
>
>
> Be of good heart.
>
> Jim Culp USA
> GatorCity Florida
> where it is 84F today,
> with blue sky and cumulus
> and migrating Sandhill Cranes going north wheelin
> around on thermals and moving on back to V formation
> as they turn north again and reform the
> Vs pointed north. Beautiful sounds as they chortle.
>
> They make plenty of beautiful noise as they climb and
> glide.
>
>
>
>
>

[Robert Hart]

Malcolm Austin wrote:
> I see the winter (SAD) lack of flying is getting to you. Do you have the
> correct tables ;-)
>
> Don't worry summer and thermals are only weeks away (or months in my
> case in the north of the UK)

Come to (normally) sunny Queensland (in Australia for the Geographically
Challenged) where we fly all year round. I have had 10kts to 10,000 in
July (midwinter here in the southern hemisphere) out on the Darling
Downs (a couple of hours drive from Brisbane).

Mind you, we are currently experiencing 'not quite a cyclone' (aka
hurricane in the northern hemisphere) which has been lashing the coast
but unfortunately dropping most of its rain out to sea and not on the
country side, where it is much needed by the farmers and the reservoirs!

It should clear today - I am spending a week from tomorrow cross country
instructing for a load of visitors at our club.

Robert

[Chris Wedgwood]

But humans don't have an air bladder inside them for control of buoyancy.


"Jack" > wrote in message
. com...
> Chris Wedgwood wrote:
>> I can't begin to describe how inappropriate it is to use a creature like
>> this for your own pleasure.
>>
>> Do you think the fish will have no pain when you subject them to
>> atmospheric pressure way below that to which they have evolved?
>
> We evolved pretty well in the bottom 7 feet of our atmosphere.
>
> Let the little darlings reach for the stars. Who knows what they might
> become?
>
>
> Jack

[Greg Arnold]

Is the water pressure on a fish at 18,000' different from that at sea level?


Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> But humans don't have an air bladder inside them for control of buoyancy.
>
>
> "Jack" > wrote in message
> . com...
>> Chris Wedgwood wrote:
>>> I can't begin to describe how inappropriate it is to use a creature like
>>> this for your own pleasure.
>>>
>>> Do you think the fish will have no pain when you subject them to
>>> atmospheric pressure way below that to which they have evolved?
>> We evolved pretty well in the bottom 7 feet of our atmosphere.
>>
>> Let the little darlings reach for the stars. Who knows what they might
>> become?
>>
>>
>> Jack
>
>

[Jack]

Greg Arnold wrote:
> Is the water pressure on a fish at 18,000' different from that at sea
> level?

Half.


Jack

[Jack]

Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> But humans don't have an air bladder inside them for control of buoyancy.

You mean those fish can't evacuate their bladders?

Maybe there's a market for relief systems for fish.


Jack

[Shawn]

Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> But humans don't have an air bladder inside them for control of buoyancy.

My dog does.

[Tony Verhulst]

Jack wrote:
> Greg Arnold wrote:
>
>> Is the water pressure on a fish at 18,000' different from that at sea
>> level?
>
> Half.

No, that's only true for air. Water is (generally speaking) not
compressible and what matters, is the water above you, not the air
pressure at the air/water interface.

Tony V.

[Jack]

Tony Verhulst wrote:

> No, that's only true for air. Water is (generally speaking) not
> compressible and what matters, is the water above you, not the air
> pressure at the air/water interface.

And what matters in the atmosphere? The air above you.

You don't think it's all additive?

The noncompressibility of water has no bearing on the question.



Jack

[Tony Verhulst]

> And what matters in the atmosphere? The air above you.
>
> You don't think it's all additive?

Sure, but the effects of air pressure are second order, if that.

Tony

[Jack]

Tony Verhulst wrote:
>
>> And what matters in the atmosphere? The air above you.
>>
>> You don't think it's all additive?
>
>
> Sure, but the effects of air pressure are second order, if that.

Wunderbar! Then there is absolutely no reason why the fish would be
worse off at altitude, unless you are worried about gasses in the water
leaving faster and relegating the poor widdle fishies to a less
oxygenated environment.


Jack

[Tony Verhulst]

>> And what matters in the atmosphere? The air above you.
>>
>> You don't think it's all additive?
>
> Sure, but the effects of air pressure are second order, if that.

Since this is soo off topic, this will be my last post on the subject
(we can carry on the conversation via email).

I apologize in advance for the non metric units.

If you're 14 feet under water (1 atmosphere of pressure, and you rise to
7 feet, the pressure on your body will be reduced by 50%. It takes you
18000 ft of air altitude change to achieve the same percentage. If you
are at the bottom of a 14 foot deep tank of water that gets lifted to
18000MSL, the pressure on your body is not reduced by 50% - not even
close to it.

Tony V

[Jack]

Tony Verhulst wrote:

> If you're 14 feet under water (1 atmosphere of pressure, and you rise to
> 7 feet, the pressure on your body will be reduced by 50%. It takes you
> 18000 ft of air altitude change to achieve the same percentage. If you
> are at the bottom of a 14 foot deep tank of water that gets lifted to
> 18000MSL, the pressure on your body is not reduced by 50% - not even
> close to it.

You are overkilling this deeply on-topic discussion of the effects of
altitude on goldfish, Tony, so running away won't get you off the hook.

We are discussing tiny fishes, gold, that spend their lives in a
fishbowl which might be a foot deep. Going to altitude in a glider while
in a gallon baggy of water will not change their fate, no matter the
deeply felt concerns of sundry PETA-people.

Even now the hand-wringers are girding themselves for their next crusade
against those of us who enjoy the occasional salad.

Mein Gott! Can't you hear the olives screaming?


Jack

(I know, winter has gone on too long.)

[Tony Verhulst]

> (I know, winter has gone on too long.)

Tell me about it :-)

On topic, my club is scheduled to start operations on Saturday April 1,
or when mud season ends - often a week or two later.

Tony V.

[Bob C]

At 20:24 03 March 2006, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
>I can't begin to describe how inappropriate it is to
>use a creature like
>this for your own pleasure.
>
>Do you think the fish will have no pain when you subject
>them to atmospheric
>pressure way below that to which they have evolved?
>
>Chris

Probably no more uncomfy for the fish than the airhose
blast the pet shop uses to keep the baggie inflated
when you purchase the critters. Always made my ears
feel funny just to watch...


>
>'Jim Culp' wrote in message
...
>>
>> It was discovered recently
>> that taking of goldish
>> for glider rides
>> gives very splendid topic of conversation at the field
>> during the day, and in the bar or on the field drinking
>> locations in the even after flying.
>>
>>
>>
>> Further, in two seaters it is easier to get females
>> to ride with a pilot when asked to fly as a crewmember,
>> in crew-role; whereupon she would hold the little
>>fishies
>> in clear fishbag to do her duty for the pleasure of
>> the fish.
>>
>> Women enjoy live creature care. Dont know why, but
>> they do.
>>
>> Prepare with a clear plastic bag with a pint or two
>> of water and several gold fishies;
>>
>> that gives the woman a proper
>> Sense Of Purpose
>> at the airfield
>> and
>> while she is aboard
>> with you being the Master Airman,
>> in your natural fearless commanding role. .
>>
>> We did this in south Mississippi but the only fish
>> we could get our hands on in the rush of the time
>>to
>> get the gliders ready to fly that day was a catfish
>> out of a muddy ditch, and we had to use large plastic
>> bag.
>>
>> Only problem was we had to fly overgrossed
>> due to the only woman available to fly with me was
>> overlygrossed in and of herself.
>>
>> Lawdy Lawdy Miss Claudy,
>> you dont know whatcha do to me. .
>>
>>
>> Be of good heart.
>>
>> Jim Culp USA
>> GatorCity Florida
>> where it is 84F today,
>> with blue sky and cumulus
>> and migrating Sandhill Cranes going north wheelin
>> around on thermals and moving on back to V formation
>> as they turn north again and reform the
>> Vs pointed north. Beautiful sounds as they chortle.
>>
>> They make plenty of beautiful noise as they climb
>>and
>> glide.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>