Software for flight planning????

[Prop]

I have been researching different types of flight planning software. I guess the 2 main types are web based like aeroplanner.com and computer based like jeppesen flitestar. I would like a good computer based flight planning but don't know what to go with. I will say I have a subscription with aeroplanner. I don't like how long it takes to view maps. I would like the ability to easily add a point, and I like it to automatically suggest a route.


what all do you guys use?

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[Dan]

I have been trying to find something that will auto-plan low-altitude
airways based on an altitude limit I set (i.e. I don't want to go over
12.5k, etc.)

No such luck. DUATS will happily route you through the rockies at
3000. Out west, that just doesn't work. : )

[GeorgeC]

The one AOPA (AOPA's Real-Time Flight Planer power by Jeppesen) has does that, I
planed a trip from Oklahoma to California PWA -> RIR via airways at a too low an
altitude (7500) and it did some weird stuff. When I set the altitude at 10500,
it did a good job.

On 6 Mar 2006 20:13:23 -0800, "Dan" > wrote:

>I have been trying to find something that will auto-plan low-altitude
>airways based on an altitude limit I set (i.e. I don't want to go over
>12.5k, etc.)
>
>No such luck. DUATS will happily route you through the rockies at
>3000. Out west, that just doesn't work. : )

GeorgeC

[Thomas Borchert]

Prop,

try www.pocketfms.com

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "Prop" > said:
>good computer based flight planning but don't know what to go with. I will say I have a
>subscription with aeroplanner. I don't like how long it takes to view maps. I would like the
>ability to easily add a point, and I like it to automatically suggest a route.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It does. At least in the "Pro Flight Planner" (I can't get the "New Pro
Flight Planner" to work). You put in your start and end points, click
"update", then look down below the "Create and Edit Points" block where it
says "Auto-route". Choose "Low-Altitude Airway", and click "Auto-Route"
and it will give you a decent route. Also, if you turn on "rubber
banding", you can easily click and add or move points.


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[Marco Leon]

"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message:
>
> FliteStar IFR ...pricy...worth it!
>
> Jepp's Internet FlightPlanner has gotten some good reviews; look for a
> review Marco Leon did back a couple months ago here in RAP. An added bonus
> is a years membership in AOPA or a year extension if you're already a
> member.

If money is not a concern then I agree with Matt, Flitestar is probably the
best--especially if software performance is what's driving you to change
from Aeroplanner. If you want to keep the bills low, check out Jepp's
Internet Flight Planner because like I posted earlier, it has most of the
features of Flitestar with the biggest difference being that you can't use
it on a laptop in flight.

I like the features of Seattle Avionics Voyager but the software performance
is dismal and the printed maps useless. Jepp seems to have the vector
graphics running smoothly with just the right amount of info displayed in
both viewing on-screen and printed on the trip kit. I've been using JIFP now
for a few months and use it for quick "back-of-the-napkin" flight plan
checks (used to use DUATs for this) and for actual use in flight. I wish I
had Flitestar so I can replan with the actual clearance I get but I don't
fly enough to justify it.

Jepp has the most experience with flight planning and it shows.

Marco Leon



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[Ross Richardson]

I still like the old Cirris by CSC Duats. Suggests routes, lets users
define routes.

Ross
KSWI

Prop wrote:

> I have been researching different types of flight planning software. I guess the 2 main types are web based like aeroplanner.com and computer based like jeppesen flitestar. I would like a good computer based flight planning but don't know what to go with. I will say I have a subscription with aeroplanner. I don't like how long it takes to view maps. I would like the ability to easily add a point, and I like it to automatically suggest a route.
>
>
> what all do you guys use?
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[Peter R.]

Prop > wrote:

> what all do you guys use?

I have been using Jepp's FLightStar for the last three years and have been
very happy with it. Prior to using it I was also an Aeroplanner customer,
but back then (greater than three years ago) there were many promises made
by the company that were never fulfilled.

For example, there was Aeroplanner's beta program to redesign the planner
that went on for over a year. I took the time to learn the new interface
and reported many bugs to them. These bug reports sat for almost a year
with no response at all. I finally got frustrated with the company and
canceled my membership.

FlightStar allowed me to plan a trip across the US, from NY to California,
and back again, very easily. When I was in Denver, CO, planning my return
leg to NY (using FlightStar on my laptop), I discovered a line of strong
storms over my entire route the morning of my flight. Within a half an
hour, I had replanned and refiled the entire 1,200 nm route about 200 nm
miles south to avoid the storms.

If you do a lot of flying, this software is an invaluable tool.

--
Peter

[Chris G.]

I attended the NW Aviation Conference and Trade Show in Puyallup, WA, on
Feb 25 and watched an EXTENSIVE demo of the Voyager software by Seattle
Avionics. In the demo, I quizzed them in such a way that they planned
my route home from 1S0-HIO-SLE twice, using separate routings and
features. I was sufficiently impressed to purchase the product with an
update subscription for special show price of about $200 (US). Normal
price would be about $250 for the same package. I purchased it because
of their willingness to show me the product thoroughly, the feature sets
offered by the software, and the price. I would not have necessarily
purchased anything this expensive had I not been able to play with it
like I had. They do offer a free trial period to use the software. I
think it was 10 days or something like that. Fully functional.

http://www.seattleavionics.com

Disclaimer: I have no relationship with Seattle Avionics, other than
having the experience shown above at the NWAC&TS in Puyallup. As with
everything, YMMV.

Chris G.
PP-ASEL
Salem, Oregon

Prop wrote:
> I have been researching different types of flight planning software. I guess the 2 main types are web based like aeroplanner.com and computer based like jeppesen flitestar. I would like a good computer based flight planning but don't know what to go with. I will say I have a subscription with aeroplanner. I don't like how long it takes to view maps. I would like the ability to easily add a point, and I like it to automatically suggest a route.
>
>
> what all do you guys use?
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Try AirPlan out. The demo runs for 30 days...
http://www.razorsedgesoft.com/airplan

[cpu]

>The one AOPA (AOPA's Real-Time Flight Planer power by Jeppesen) has does that, I
>laned a trip from Oklahoma to California PWA -> RIR via airways at a too low an
>altitude (7500) and it did some weird stuff. When I set the altitude at 10500,
>it did a good job.

But this one is a free down-load (as long as you are an AOPA member)
and does most of jobs OK.

[Matt Barrow]

"Chris G." > wrote in message
reenews.net...
>I attended the NW Aviation Conference and Trade Show in Puyallup, WA, on
> Feb 25 and watched an EXTENSIVE demo of the Voyager software by Seattle
> Avionics. In the demo, I quizzed them in such a way that they planned
> my route home from 1S0-HIO-SLE twice, using separate routings and
> features. I was sufficiently impressed to purchase the product with an
> update subscription for special show price of about $200 (US). Normal
> price would be about $250 for the same package. I purchased it because
> of their willingness to show me the product thoroughly, the feature sets
> offered by the software, and the price. I would not have necessarily
> purchased anything this expensive had I not been able to play with it
> like I had. They do offer a free trial period to use the software. I
> think it was 10 days or something like that. Fully functional.
>
> http://www.seattleavionics.com
>
> Disclaimer: I have no relationship with Seattle Avionics, other than
> having the experience shown above at the NWAC&TS in Puyallup. As with
> everything, YMMV.

You might be quite disappointed with the performance you get away from the
show site (I'm assuming they had a T-1 or better connection at the
convention site) as some have noted it's performance can overwhelm even the
biggest and bestest PCs along with Cable or DSL.

[Chris G.]

I've installed it and messed with it quite a bit on my home system and
have had no real problems. That's not to say I wouldn't buy the Jepp
Flightstar, because I would if it was less expensive or I was richer.
(neither are the case ;)

Chris


Matt Barrow wrote:
> "Chris G." > wrote in message
> reenews.net...
>> I attended the NW Aviation Conference and Trade Show in Puyallup, WA, on
>> Feb 25 and watched an EXTENSIVE demo of the Voyager software by Seattle
>> Avionics. In the demo, I quizzed them in such a way that they planned
>> my route home from 1S0-HIO-SLE twice, using separate routings and
>> features. I was sufficiently impressed to purchase the product with an
>> update subscription for special show price of about $200 (US). Normal
>> price would be about $250 for the same package. I purchased it because
>> of their willingness to show me the product thoroughly, the feature sets
>> offered by the software, and the price. I would not have necessarily
>> purchased anything this expensive had I not been able to play with it
>> like I had. They do offer a free trial period to use the software. I
>> think it was 10 days or something like that. Fully functional.
>>
>> http://www.seattleavionics.com
>>
>> Disclaimer: I have no relationship with Seattle Avionics, other than
>> having the experience shown above at the NWAC&TS in Puyallup. As with
>> everything, YMMV.
>
> You might be quite disappointed with the performance you get away from the
> show site (I'm assuming they had a T-1 or better connection at the
> convention site) as some have noted it's performance can overwhelm even the
> biggest and bestest PCs along with Cable or DSL.
>
>
>
>

[Matt Barrow]

"Chris G." > wrote in message
reenews.net...
> I've installed it and messed with it quite a bit on my home system and
> have had no real problems. That's not to say I wouldn't buy the Jepp
> Flightstar, because I would if it was less expensive or I was richer.
> (neither are the case ;)
>
> Chris

Give this a read

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.piloting/msg/0be4246f898a514b?dmode=source&hl=en

I have a 1.2mb DSL and an Athelon 64 3500 with 1GB of memory and Voyager
choked it to the verge of death, but I have not tried Jepp's JIFP.


>
> Matt Barrow wrote:
>> "Chris G." > wrote in message
>> reenews.net...
>>> I attended the NW Aviation Conference and Trade Show in Puyallup, WA, on
>>> Feb 25 and watched an EXTENSIVE demo of the Voyager software by Seattle
>>> Avionics. In the demo, I quizzed them in such a way that they planned
>>> my route home from 1S0-HIO-SLE twice, using separate routings and
>>> features. I was sufficiently impressed to purchase the product with an
>>> update subscription for special show price of about $200 (US). Normal
>>> price would be about $250 for the same package. I purchased it because
>>> of their willingness to show me the product thoroughly, the feature sets
>>> offered by the software, and the price. I would not have necessarily
>>> purchased anything this expensive had I not been able to play with it
>>> like I had. They do offer a free trial period to use the software. I
>>> think it was 10 days or something like that. Fully functional.
>>>
>>> http://www.seattleavionics.com
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: I have no relationship with Seattle Avionics, other than
>>> having the experience shown above at the NWAC&TS in Puyallup. As with
>>> everything, YMMV.
>>
>> You might be quite disappointed with the performance you get away from
>> the
>> show site (I'm assuming they had a T-1 or better connection at the
>> convention site) as some have noted it's performance can overwhelm even
>> the
>> biggest and bestest PCs along with Cable or DSL.
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Try AirPlan out... it isn't a processor hog. Voyager uses .NET and
eats lots of CPU cycles. AirPlan is Win32 and only the map redraws are
processor intensive, and they are fairly quick.
http://www.razorsedgesoft.com/airplan (30 day trial)