Heres a dumb question

[John Huthmaker]

Maybe I can get a dumb answer.

I noticed that in both the Sporty's and AOPA aircraft contests (the annual
airplane giveaways), their rules stipulate that if the winner is Canadian,
they will have to pass a math test to recieve the prize. If they fail to
answer the math question correctly, they will find another winner.

Why would they do that? Assuming the winner to be a Canadian Pilot, why
would they test their apptitude?

Also in that respect, if they are trying to not give the airplane to a total
moron, why wouldnt they do the same to an American winner?

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[Jim Macklin]

Canada law doesn't allow the give-away but a test of skill
is OK.



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"John Huthmaker" > wrote in message
k.net...
| Maybe I can get a dumb answer.
|
| I noticed that in both the Sporty's and AOPA aircraft
contests (the annual
| airplane giveaways), their rules stipulate that if the
winner is Canadian,
| they will have to pass a math test to recieve the prize.
If they fail to
| answer the math question correctly, they will find another
winner.
|
| Why would they do that? Assuming the winner to be a
Canadian Pilot, why
| would they test their apptitude?
|
| Also in that respect, if they are trying to not give the
airplane to a total
| moron, why wouldnt they do the same to an American winner?
|
| --
| John Huthmaker
| PPL-SEL P-28-161
|
| http://www.cogentnetworking.com
|
|

[Sylvain]

John Huthmaker wrote:

> airplane giveaways), their rules stipulate that if the winner is Canadian,
> they will have to pass a math test to recieve the prize.

ok, I don't have the reference handy, but last time someone asked
the question, the answer was around the line that Canada has weird
rules about lotteries and such, and for some reasons, the math
tests turns the pure luck based tombola into a contest which then
becomes legal there; no matter how dumb the math test might be, i.e.,
2 + 2? might qualify; any Canadian out there?

--Sylvain

[Icebound]

"John Huthmaker" > wrote in message
k.net...
> Maybe I can get a dumb answer.
>
> I noticed that in both the Sporty's and AOPA aircraft contests (the annual
> airplane giveaways), their rules stipulate that if the winner is Canadian,
> they will have to pass a math test to recieve the prize. If they fail to
> answer the math question correctly, they will find another winner.
>
> Why would they do that?

It is all right here:
http://vancouverplus.workopolis.com/servlet/Content/fasttrack/20030524/RSKIL?section=Legal

[Chris]

"Icebound" > wrote in message
...
>
> "John Huthmaker" > wrote in message
> k.net...
>> Maybe I can get a dumb answer.
>>
>> I noticed that in both the Sporty's and AOPA aircraft contests (the
>> annual airplane giveaways), their rules stipulate that if the winner is
>> Canadian, they will have to pass a math test to recieve the prize. If
>> they fail to answer the math question correctly, they will find another
>> winner.
>>
>> Why would they do that?
>
> It is all right here:
> http://vancouverplus.workopolis.com/servlet/Content/fasttrack/20030524/RSKIL?section=Legal

The same applies in the UK. TV shows have prizes such as a house in Spain
etc and to win you have to answer a question which is so easy especially
when they give three choices. Giveaways are not allowed as it would be an
illegal lottery so a "skill" element is needed.

I think that the AOPA and Sportys prizes are not allowed outside N American
anyway which seems a bit of a con as the small print seems very fine on this
and at the moment cannot find it.

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Sylvain > said:
>tests turns the pure luck based tombola into a contest which then
>becomes legal there; no matter how dumb the math test might be, i.e.,
>2 + 2? might qualify; any Canadian out there?

The one and only "lucky draw" I won in Canada, the prize was only $50, and
the skill testing question was just multiplying two 1 digit numbers and
adding another 2 digit number.

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[The Visitor]

I have see winners offered a calculator also.

John Huthmaker wrote:
> Maybe I can get a dumb answer.
>
> I noticed that in both the Sporty's and AOPA aircraft contests (the annual
> airplane giveaways), their rules stipulate that if the winner is Canadian,
> they will have to pass a math test to recieve the prize. If they fail to
> answer the math question correctly, they will find another winner.
>
> Why would they do that? Assuming the winner to be a Canadian Pilot, why
> would they test their apptitude?
>
> Also in that respect, if they are trying to not give the airplane to a total
> moron, why wouldnt they do the same to an American winner?
>

[Greg Farris]

In article >, says...

>I think that the AOPA and Sportys prizes are not allowed outside N American
>anyway which seems a bit of a con as the small print seems very fine on this
>and at the moment cannot find it.
>

Very fine indeed - as two of the last four Spoprty's winners, if I'm not
mistaken have been in Europe and claimed their prizes.

GF

[Chris Colohan]

Sylvain > writes:
> ok, I don't have the reference handy, but last time someone asked
> the question, the answer was around the line that Canada has weird
> rules about lotteries and such, and for some reasons, the math
> tests turns the pure luck based tombola into a contest which then
> becomes legal there; no matter how dumb the math test might be, i.e.,
> 2 + 2? might qualify; any Canadian out there?

I once won some concert tickets and a CD from a radio station in
Toronto. I showed up at the station to get them, and they gave me a
simple math question to do. As the receptionist handed me the paper
with the question on it, she said "the answer is 17".

Chris
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[John Huthmaker]

Then I suppose the skill is in knowing where to write in the answer. :)

John

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John Huthmaker
PPL-SEL P-28-161

http://www.cogentnetworking.com
"Chris Colohan" > wrote in message
.. .
> Sylvain > writes:
>> ok, I don't have the reference handy, but last time someone asked
>> the question, the answer was around the line that Canada has weird
>> rules about lotteries and such, and for some reasons, the math
>> tests turns the pure luck based tombola into a contest which then
>> becomes legal there; no matter how dumb the math test might be, i.e.,
>> 2 + 2? might qualify; any Canadian out there?
>
> I once won some concert tickets and a CD from a radio station in
> Toronto. I showed up at the station to get them, and they gave me a
> simple math question to do. As the receptionist handed me the paper
> with the question on it, she said "the answer is 17".
>
> Chris
> --
> Chris Colohan Email: PGP: finger
> Web: www.colohan.com Phone: (412)268-4751

[Stubby]

Maybe they should have a spelling test.


John Huthmaker wrote:
> Maybe I can get a dumb answer.
>
> I noticed that in both the Sporty's and AOPA aircraft contests (the annual
> airplane giveaways), their rules stipulate that if the winner is Canadian,
> they will have to pass a math test to recieve the prize. If they fail to
> answer the math question correctly, they will find another winner.
>
> Why would they do that? Assuming the winner to be a Canadian Pilot, why
> would they test their apptitude?
>
> Also in that respect, if they are trying to not give the airplane to a total
> moron, why wouldnt they do the same to an American winner?
>

[Bob Noel]

In article >,
Stubby > wrote:

> Maybe they should have a spelling test.


with words like color and defense?


>
> John Huthmaker wrote:
> > Maybe I can get a dumb answer.
> >
> > I noticed that in both the Sporty's and AOPA aircraft contests (the annual
> > airplane giveaways), their rules stipulate that if the winner is Canadian,
> > they will have to pass a math test to recieve the prize. If they fail to
> > answer the math question correctly, they will find another winner.
> >
> > Why would they do that? Assuming the winner to be a Canadian Pilot, why
> > would they test their apptitude?
> >
> > Also in that respect, if they are trying to not give the airplane to a
> > total
> > moron, why wouldnt they do the same to an American winner?
> >

--
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lawyers will hate

[Jon Woellhaf]

John Huthmaker wrote

> I noticed that in both the Sporty's and AOPA aircraft contests (the annual
> airplane giveaways), their rules stipulate that if the winner is Canadian,
> they will have to pass a math test to recieve the prize. If they fail to
> answer the math question correctly, they will find another winner.

I discovered the question they'll ask. It's at
http://i2.tinypic.com/r7vmg6.jpg

Jon