Bob Hoover

[Dallas]

I'll give ya a nickel if this doesn't knock your socks off.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft


Dallas

[Dave Illig]

Yeah man, that rocked!!


Dallas wrote:
> I'll give ya a nickel if this doesn't knock your socks off.
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft
>
>
> Dallas

[Dave Illig]

Yeah man, that rocked!!


Dallas wrote:
> I'll give ya a nickel if this doesn't knock your socks off.
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft
>
>
> Dallas

[Dave Illig]

Yeah man, that rocked!!


Dallas wrote:
> I'll give ya a nickel if this doesn't knock your socks off.
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft
>
>
> Dallas

[Maule Driver]

Great stuff. Hoover gives me chills. Seeing that routine live is one
of my most memorable flying experiences - and I was standing on the ground.

You Tube is a helluva site too.

Dallas wrote:
> I'll give ya a nickel if this doesn't knock your socks off.
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft
>
>
> Dallas
>
>

[gatt]

"Maule Driver" > wrote in message
m...
> Great stuff. Hoover gives me chills. Seeing that routine live is one of
> my most memorable flying experiences - and I was standing on the ground.

Yeah, I recommend sitting down or having something soft under you.

You can always tell who in the stands are pilots because they get all
emotional.


-c

[Maule Driver]

How long did he do the Shrike routine? I swear I saw it in the late 70s
- 82 at the latest. Deadstick down in the valley at Reading, out of
sight. Damn!

I was a novice glider guy then but could still appreciate why twin
pilots *needed* to cry when they saw that.

gatt wrote:
> "Maule Driver" > wrote in message
> m...
>
>>Great stuff. Hoover gives me chills. Seeing that routine live is one of
>>my most memorable flying experiences - and I was standing on the ground.
>
>
> Yeah, I recommend sitting down or having something soft under you.
>
> You can always tell who in the stands are pilots because they get all
> emotional.
>
>
> -c
>
>

[rps]

I'm pretty sure I saw him do the Shrike 2-engines-out routine in the
mid '90s just before the FAA revoked his medical.

[gatt]

"rps" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I'm pretty sure I saw him do the Shrike 2-engines-out routine in the
> mid '90s just before the FAA revoked his medical.

He did at least most of it in Hillsboro in around 2002. The old Evergreen
Shrike isn't used now. He had a different sponsor and paint scheme.


-c

[Jay Honeck]

> I'll give ya a nickel if this doesn't knock your socks off.
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft

Am I just goofy, or is there no way to save a copy of this video from
the "You Tube" website?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Johannes Deisenhofer]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>>I'll give ya a nickel if this doesn't knock your socks off.
>>
>>http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft
>
>
> Am I just goofy, or is there no way to save a copy of this video from
> the "You Tube" website?

Guess you're not supposed to..

But try http://youtube.com/get_video\?video_id\=9ZBcapxGHjE

Jo

[Johannes Deisenhofer]

Johannes Deisenhofer wrote:
> Jay Honeck wrote:
>
>>> I'll give ya a nickel if this doesn't knock your socks off.
>>>
>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft
>>
>>
>>
>> Am I just goofy, or is there no way to save a copy of this video from
>> the "You Tube" website?
>
>
> Guess you're not supposed to..
>
> But try http://youtube.com/get_video\?video_id\=9ZBcapxGHjE
>

Sorry, this does only work on a unix command line.

Try this for your browser:

<http://youtube.com/get_video?video_id=9ZBcapxGHjE>

Jo

[Skywise]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in news:1142031981.548827.77600
@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:

>> I'll give ya a nickel if this doesn't knock your socks off.
>>
>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft
>
> Am I just goofy, or is there no way to save a copy of this video from
> the "You Tube" website?

What I do is examine my browser cache while the SWF file is loading.
It's easy to see which file it is as, if you are doing nothing else
online, it's the only fiel getting bigger. Then, just copy it out
of the cache and save it as whatever file name you like. I do it all
the time.

BTW, it also helps if you sort the file listing by most recent files
modified first.

BTW #2, the browser cache is usually tucked away in a hidden directory.

For example, on my NS7.1 on W2k, the path happens to be:
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles
\default\1kufj97b.slt\Cache

Application Data is a hidden directory. I see it because I've
set myself up to see ALL friggen' files. :)

The funky pathname just before Cache will likely be different for
every installation.

Brian
--
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[BTIZ]

I saw Bob fly is Shrike at an air show in Quonset Rhode Island in the mid
70s.
That was the first air show I had flown in to after getting my certificate.
BT

"rps" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I'm pretty sure I saw him do the Shrike 2-engines-out routine in the
> mid '90s just before the FAA revoked his medical.
>

[Peter Duniho]

"Skywise" > wrote in message
...
> What I do is examine my browser cache while the SWF file is loading.
> It's easy to see which file it is as, if you are doing nothing else
> online, it's the only fiel getting bigger. Then, just copy it out
> of the cache and save it as whatever file name you like. I do it all
> the time.

Another way to grab the file is to view the HTML source and find the
reference to the file, then create a dummy HTML document with a link to that
document (it'll read something like <a href="[link]">click here</a>, where
[link] is replaced by the actual link). In IE, you don't even need a valid
HTML header or anything...just put the link, and it'll display correctly.
Then you can right-click and use "Save Target As..." to save the file.

It's a little messier in that you have to create the dummy HTML document,
and of course you have to be willing to find the file link in the original
HTML source, but it's easier in the sense that you don't have to go browsing
around in your temporary files to find the file itself (which, on my
computers anyway, gets to be a pain because of the number of files in the
directory). It also doesn't rely on remembering different techniques for
different browsers. Any decent browser will have an option to save what a
link points to instead of navigating to it.

If one does want to simply copy from the temporary files directory, the
easiest way in IE to get to the directory is through the Internet Options
dialog. Click on the temporary files settings, then the "View Files..."
button (in IE7, they've rearranged this a bit, and for some reason the
proper button is called "View Trusted Files...", but it does the same
thing).

The advantage of doing it that way is that Windows Explorer consolidates all
your temporary files into a single display window, so you don't have to go
looking for the actual temporary files folder in which the file is stored.

I haven't looked to see if Firefox has a similar shortcut to the browser
cache. It might.

Pete

[Matt Barrow]

"Johannes Deisenhofer" > wrote in message
...
> Johannes Deisenhofer wrote:
>
> Sorry, this does only work on a unix command line.
>
> Try this for your browser:
>
> <http://youtube.com/get_video?video_id=9ZBcapxGHjE>
>

And save it as what kind of file? SWF?

[Skywise]

"Peter Duniho" > wrote in
:

> "Skywise" > wrote in message
> ...
>> What I do is examine my browser cache while the SWF file is loading.
>> It's easy to see which file it is as, if you are doing nothing else
>> online, it's the only fiel getting bigger. Then, just copy it out
>> of the cache and save it as whatever file name you like. I do it all
>> the time.
>
> Another way to grab the file is to view the HTML source and find the
> reference to the file, then create a dummy HTML document with a link to
> that document (it'll read something like <a href="[link]">click
> here</a>, where [link] is replaced by the actual link). In IE, you
> don't even need a valid HTML header or anything...just put the link, and
> it'll display correctly. Then you can right-click and use "Save Target
> As..." to save the file.
<Snipola>

Oh yes. I've done that too. I suggest then using my method of cache
hunting only when the page source option doesn't work, like when
everything is run through java script.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

[Peter Duniho]

"Skywise" > wrote in message
...
> Oh yes. I've done that too. I suggest then using my method of cache
> hunting only when the page source option doesn't work, like when
> everything is run through java script.

And for the record, I have found that even when the page is run as
Javascript, the actual link to the file is question is still accessible
somewhere in the Javascript. Occasionally, it's a relative path, but in
that case it's usually easy to determine what it's relative to (usually the
main URL for the page).

I am always amused when I find a page that has made attempts to obfuscate
the original data link. Sometimes it involves disabling right-click as
well, or some other clumsy means. But since the content is always in the
cache somewhere, the user is always able to get a copy.

First (and IMHO only) rule of securing data: any data sent to a potential
attacker is impossible to secure. If you want it secured, you need to not
send it.

Pete

[Dallas]

"Jay Honeck"
> Am I just goofy, or is there no way to save a copy of this video from
> the "You Tube" website?

Hum... it seems to be a Macromedia Flash Player file which complicates
things a little.

Dallas

[Morgans]

"Dallas" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
> "Jay Honeck"
> > Am I just goofy, or is there no way to save a copy of this video from
> > the "You Tube" website?
>
> Hum... it seems to be a Macromedia Flash Player file which complicates
> things a little.
>
> Dallas

Yep. It means I won't be seeing it.
--
Jim in NC

[Johannes Deisenhofer]

Matt Barrow wrote:
> "Johannes Deisenhofer" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Johannes Deisenhofer wrote:
>>
>>Sorry, this does only work on a unix command line.
>>
>>Try this for your browser:
>>
>><http://youtube.com/get_video?video_id=9ZBcapxGHjE>
>>
>
> And save it as what kind of file? SWF?
>
>

It's Flash Video Format, usually called FLV. mplayer (linux) plays 'em fine. I can
convert it for you, if you can't play it.

Jo

[Jay Honeck]

> >>Try this for your browser:
> >>
> >><http://youtube.com/get_video?video_id=9ZBcapxGHjE>
> >
> > And save it as what kind of file? SWF?
>
> It's Flash Video Format, usually called FLV. mplayer (linux) plays 'em fine. I can
> convert it for you, if you can't play it.

Hi Jo,

I am unable to play that format. Can you convert it something like
..swf or .mpg?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Skywise]

"Peter Duniho" > wrote in
:

<Snipola>
> First (and IMHO only) rule of securing data: any data sent to a
> potential attacker is impossible to secure. If you want it secured, you
> need to not send it.

Agreed. And no need for it to be an "IMHO". It's fact. I have
a passing interest in cryptography. Everything I've ever read
on the subject states something along those same lines. There
is no way to absolutely 100% secure data for transmission. You
can come real close, but there's always some way to compromise
it. It's just a matter of how determined the 'attacker' is.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

[Jay Honeck]

> I am unable to play that format. Can you convert it something like
> .swf or .mpg?

And here, for everyone's FREE enjoyment, is the version of the video
sent to me by Jo:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2006-3-11_bob_hoover.avi

Enjoy, everyone! Thanks, Jo!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Quilljar]

Thanks for the heads up Dallas! I was very impressed.

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[Flyingmonk]

Wow! I thought that you would get neg G or 0 G at some point in the
roll. I didn't think that you were supposed to maintain pos G
throughout the roll. Anyone know or can comment on this?

Hope to meet him someday.

The Monk

[.Blueskies.]

"Flyingmonk" > wrote in message oups.com...
> Wow! I thought that you would get neg G or 0 G at some point in the
> roll. I didn't think that you were supposed to maintain pos G
> throughout the roll. Anyone know or can comment on this?
>
> Hope to meet him someday.
>
> The Monk
>

Barrel roll, not axial roll...

[Edward Todd]

In article >,
".Blueskies." > wrote:

> "Flyingmonk" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > Wow! I thought that you would get neg G or 0 G at some point in the
> > roll. I didn't think that you were supposed to maintain pos G
> > throughout the roll. Anyone know or can comment on this?
> >
> > Hope to meet him someday.
> >
> > The Monk
> >
>
> Barrel roll, not axial roll...
>
>


No .... he actually does a longitudinal axis roll and never spills his
coffee. A great video :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft

[john smith]

> > Barrel roll, not axial roll...

> No .... he actually does a longitudinal axis roll and never spills his
> coffee. A great video :)

No, barrel roll. Watch the horizon. The nose moves outside, it does not
remain fixed on a point. I doubt the Shrike will maintain level altitude
while attempting a roll around a point

[Big John]

I saw Bob perform many many times doing the impossible in heavy iron
and GA.

I finallly quit watching him do those impossible things as I didn't
want to see such a nice guy buy it.

Big John
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` ````````

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:11:42 GMT, "Dallas"
> wrote:

>
>I'll give ya a nickel if this doesn't knock your socks off.
>
>http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft
>
>
>Dallas
>

[Dave Stadt]

"Big John" > wrote in message
...
>I saw Bob perform many many times doing the impossible in heavy iron
> and GA.
>
> I finallly quit watching him do those impossible things as I didn't
> want to see such a nice guy buy it.
>
> Big John

His airshow routine was a piece of cake compare to some of the things he
went through during WWII and as a test pilot.

[[email protected]]

> His airshow routine was a piece of cake compare to some of the things he
> went through during WWII and as a test pilot.

I read an article on his career, and he actually performed the Shrike
engine out routine back in North Africa during the war in a P-38. He
did it to demonstrate that the P-38 could be handled adequately both
single engine and dead-stick.

Dean

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article . com>,
wrote:

> > His airshow routine was a piece of cake compare to some of the things he
> > went through during WWII and as a test pilot.
>
> I read an article on his career, and he actually performed the Shrike
> engine out routine back in North Africa during the war in a P-38. He
> did it to demonstrate that the P-38 could be handled adequately both
> single engine and dead-stick.
>
> Dean

Wasn't that Tony leVier and Herman Salmon?

[Glasair]

I ran into Bob standing in fornt of me in the checkout line at Ralph's
supermarket in Palos Verdes, CA near where he lives. He was very
sociable and easy to talk to.
gatt wrote:
> "Maule Driver" > wrote in message
> m...
> > Great stuff. Hoover gives me chills. Seeing that routine live is one of
> > my most memorable flying experiences - and I was standing on the ground.
>
> Yeah, I recommend sitting down or having something soft under you.
>
> You can always tell who in the stands are pilots because they get all
> emotional.
>
>
> -c

[Grumman-581]

"Dallas" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> Hum... it seems to be a Macromedia Flash Player file which complicates
> things a little.

Yep... I refuse to load yet another security hole onto my machines... Hell,
it's bad enough just with the ones that MS delivers... When I was on a
recent DoD (Navy) contract, they wouldn't even allow it on any of the
machines on the NMCI network...