landing a 777 in Brazil

[Jonathan]

ftp://nemosubs.com/pub/XS11/Crosswind_.wmv

[Jay Honeck]

If you like this video, you may like these versions even better. They were
contributed by viewers of our aviation video page, after I asked (begged?)
for a version that didn't have all the goofy Portuguese subtitles.

This version has "Take My Breath Away" in the background:

http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2006-2-16-06_xwind_No_Captions.wmv

While this version still has the original music:

http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2006-3-7_Steve_Lyons_crosswind_edit.wmv

See all of the videos here:
http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:i_eQf.850631$xm3.700637@attbi_s21...
> If you like this video, you may like these versions even better. They
> were contributed by viewers of our aviation video page, after I asked
> (begged?) for a version that didn't have all the goofy Portuguese
> subtitles.
>
> This version has "Take My Breath Away" in the background:
>
> http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2006-2-16-06_xwind_No_Captions.wmv
>
> While this version still has the original music:
>
> http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2006-3-7_Steve_Lyons_crosswind_edit.wmv
>
> See all of the videos here:
> http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"


Who says flying airliners is hard?
You'd never get away with that in a Cessna 120...

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[Icebound]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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> If you like this video, you may like these versions even better.
> ...snip...
>
> See all of the videos here:
> http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm
> --

There is an interesting quote amongst the Radio Control Videos that you have
there....

Explaining the crash of the magnificent B-52 model, Paul Metcalf states:

quote:
With models you should throttle back on down wind lines to avoid the
airplane being over stressed, but in this case Gordon throttled back too
much and the B-52 ran out of airspeed.
:unquote

....interesting in that the visual perception (ground speed) is being
confused with AIR speed.

Having been a modeller (and still interested) I am surprised that anybody
(especially at the skill level required to pilot that B-52) would actually
believe that "... you should throttle back on downwind...to avoid....
overstress....".

[Morgans]

"Icebound" > wrote > > --
>
> There is an interesting quote amongst the Radio Control Videos that you
have
> there....
>
> Explaining the crash of the magnificent B-52 model, Paul Metcalf states:
>
> quote:
> With models you should throttle back on down wind lines to avoid the
> airplane being over stressed, but in this case Gordon throttled back too
> much and the B-52 ran out of airspeed.
> :unquote

Interesting comment, to be sure. Hard to believe he said that.

I disagree with low speed being the cause of the crash.

The sky was very cloudy, and the aircraft had no contrast, with the
backlight washing out all clues as to the orientation of the plane. High
wing sweep makes it even harder to recognize orientation, especially with no
highly visible paint jobs to identify top and bottom.

He thought it was banking too far right as he began the turn, and gave it
more left. In reality, the plane was banking left to begin with, and more
left just further added to the mistake.
--
Jim in NC

[alexy]

"Jonathan" > wrote:

>ftp://nemosubs.com/pub/XS11/Crosswind_.wmv
>
Question on this. In several of the shots, it looks like the gear is
aligned with the runway. Is that the case? What other planes have this
feature?
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LANDING GEAR
The aircraft has retractable tricycle type landing gear. Measco and
Messieur Bugatti developed the main landing gear under a joint
agreement, which features six-wheeled bogies. Control of the steering
rear axles is automatically linked to the steering angle of the nose
gear. The main landing gear is fitted with Honeywell Carbenix 4000
brakes. Initial activation of the brakes during taxiing applies the
brakes to alternate groups of three wheels only in order to minimise
wear on the brakes. The nose gear is twin-wheeled and is steerable

alexy wrote:
> "Jonathan" > wrote:
>
> >ftp://nemosubs.com/pub/XS11/Crosswind_.wmv
> >
> Question on this. In several of the shots, it looks like the gear is
> aligned with the runway. Is that the case? What other planes have this
> feature?
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> Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

[Peter Clark]

The gear locks straight ahead in-flight (and likely over some
groundspeed too). They only steer for slow-speed tight turns during
taxi. I think this has been discussed around here relatively
recently, but I only recall the B52 off the top of my head as having
truly alignable landing gear.

On 17 Mar 2006 15:46:43 -0800, wrote:

>LANDING GEAR
>The aircraft has retractable tricycle type landing gear. Measco and
>Messieur Bugatti developed the main landing gear under a joint
>agreement, which features six-wheeled bogies. Control of the steering
>rear axles is automatically linked to the steering angle of the nose
>gear. The main landing gear is fitted with Honeywell Carbenix 4000
>brakes. Initial activation of the brakes during taxiing applies the
>brakes to alternate groups of three wheels only in order to minimise
>wear on the brakes. The nose gear is twin-wheeled and is steerable
>
>alexy wrote:
>> "Jonathan" > wrote:
>>
>> >ftp://nemosubs.com/pub/XS11/Crosswind_.wmv
>> >
>> Question on this. In several of the shots, it looks like the gear is
>> aligned with the runway. Is that the case? What other planes have this
>> feature?
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>> Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

[Bob Moore]

alexy wrote

> Question on this. In several of the shots, it looks like the gear is
> aligned with the runway. Is that the case? What other planes have this
> feature?

No, commercial jetliners do not have the same type of crosswind landing
gear as does the B-52.

The long focal length of the telephoto lens exagerates the crab angle
of the long fuselage airplane. It's not nearly as severe as it appears.

Bob Moore
ATP B-707, B-727

[alexy]

Bob Moore > wrote:

>The long focal length of the telephoto lens exagerates the crab angle
>of the long fuselage airplane. It's not nearly as severe as it appears.

Yeah, I suspected that was a factor in the appearance on these videos.
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