European License

[Mark Lenox]

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a European pilot's license based
on a US license?

If so, what does it take? Is there only paperwork, or is a checkride
involved?

Regards,



Mark Lenox

[Bob]

Mark Lenox wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to get a European pilot's license based
> on a US license?
>
> If so, what does it take? Is there only paperwork, or is a checkride
> involved?
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Mark Lenox


Mark

I believe it varies with the country. France is quite easy as you only
have to send them a copy of your licence, Medical, and a picture and
they automatically send you a french licence. I am going to fly at St
Auban French Mt Soaring School this spring and they had a French
licence back to me about 2 weeks after I sent in the material. Spain is
also easy as they don't seem to require that you get a Spanish licence
and I was able to fly with my USA licence. Don't know about other
countries.

Bob Leve

[[email protected]]

Mark

Here in Germany it is usually just a paperwork issue.

Bob


Bob wrote:
> Mark Lenox wrote:
> > Does anyone know if it is possible to get a European pilot's license based
> > on a US license?
> >
> > If so, what does it take? Is there only paperwork, or is a checkride
> > involved?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark Lenox

[Chris Reed]

In the UK there is no licence.

Turn up at a gliding club (locations via www.gliding.co.uk), show your
licence and log book, take whatever check rides the instructor of the
day requires, and then fly whatever he/she is happy with you flying.

It's sensible to telephone in advance to discover local peculiarities -
for example, I believe that the Midland Gliding Club (Long Mynd) is
winch only during weekdays, so you might only be able to fly dual if
your previous experience is aeerotow only. Small clubs might have one or
more aircraft out of service, which could mean little chance of flying
that day, etc.

Mark Lenox wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to get a European pilot's license based
> on a US license?
>
> If so, what does it take? Is there only paperwork, or is a checkride
> involved?
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Mark Lenox
>
>

[Derek Copeland]

Might be worth checking the requirements with the British
Gliding Association. Tel 0044 116 253 1051 (09:00 -17:00
UK time).

Derek Copeland
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At 08:36 16 March 2006, Chris Reed wrote:
>In the UK there is no licence.
>
>Turn up at a gliding club (locations via www.gliding.co.uk),
>show your
>licence and log book, take whatever check rides the
>instructor of the
>day requires, and then fly whatever he/she is happy
>with you flying.
>
>It's sensible to telephone in advance to discover local
>peculiarities -
>for example, I believe that the Midland Gliding Club
>(Long Mynd) is
>winch only during weekdays, so you might only be able
>to fly dual if
>your previous experience is aeerotow only. Small clubs
>might have one or
>more aircraft out of service, which could mean little
>chance of flying
>that day, etc.
>
>Mark Lenox wrote:
>> Does anyone know if it is possible to get a European
>>pilot's license based
>> on a US license?
>>
>> If so, what does it take? Is there only paperwork,
>>or is a checkride
>> involved?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Lenox
>>
>>
>

[Adam D]

Bob,

Do you know what is required to fly in Germany on a US certificate? I
was flying as a student in Germany last year, and got my US glider
rating this winter. I would like to be able to fly as a licenced pilot
this season, but was told that I would have to take a written test on
human factors and one other subject, as well as a practical test. If
you know another way please let me know. My email is adamdeem at
hotmail dot com. Thanks.

Adam


wrote:
> Mark
>
> Here in Germany it is usually just a paperwork issue.
>
> Bob
>
>
> Bob wrote:
> > Mark Lenox wrote:
> > > Does anyone know if it is possible to get a European pilot's license based
> > > on a US license?
> > >
> > > If so, what does it take? Is there only paperwork, or is a checkride
> > > involved?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark Lenox

[Mark Lenox]

Actually, what I'm really looking for is information on the new European
license that covers all EU countries, not just the individual countries.
Does anyone have one of these? A friend of mine has one for power, but
he's not a glider pilot. He got his initial PPL and Instrument ratings in
the US, then converted to a German license, then converted again to Euro
license relatively recently. I don't entirely understand.

I figured that would really be the way to go. If it was just paperwork,
I'd get that taken care of so next time I'm in an EU country (which happens
fairly often as the case may be). I'd be all set anywhere but the UK, which
it appears would require BGA approvals.


Mark


"Mark Lenox" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone know if it is possible to get a European pilot's license based
> on a US license?
>
> If so, what does it take? Is there only paperwork, or is a checkride
> involved?
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Mark Lenox
>

[Derek Copeland]

There isn't a European or EASA glider pilots licence
as such yet, although there probably will be eventually.
In general all the European countries accept each others
qualifications, except the sodding Frogs who won't
accept the UK qualifications. They have never forgiven
us for the Battles of Trafalgar and Waterloo, and for
winning their country back off the Germans for them
in WW2 (with a bit of help from the Yanks).

As long as you have an FAA licence and medical and
join a BGA recognised club as a temporary member, I
can't imagine that you would have any problems in the
UK, as long as you could produce all your documents
and a logbook.

Derek Copeland
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At 01:00 17 March 2006, Mark Lenox wrote:
>
>Actually, what I'm really looking for is information
>on the new European
>license that covers all EU countries, not just the
>individual countries.
>Does anyone have one of these? A friend of mine has
>one for power, but
>he's not a glider pilot. He got his initial PPL and
>Instrument ratings in
>the US, then converted to a German license, then converted
>again to Euro
>license relatively recently. I don't entirely understand.
>
>I figured that would really be the way to go. If
>it was just paperwork,
>I'd get that taken care of so next time I'm in an EU
>country (which happens
>fairly often as the case may be). I'd be all set anywhere
>but the UK, which
>it appears would require BGA approvals.
>
>
>Mark
>
>
>'Mark Lenox' wrote in message
...
>> Does anyone know if it is possible to get a European
>>pilot's license based
>> on a US license?
>>
>> If so, what does it take? Is there only paperwork,
>>or is a checkride
>> involved?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Lenox
>>
>
>
>

[No spam]

Mark Lenox > wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to get a European pilot's license based
> on a US license?

> If so, what does it take? Is there only paperwork, or is a checkride
> involved?

I contacted the German Embassy about this at one point. I was told that
you could only fly in Germany on a US license if you were flying an
N-registered aircraft, otherwise you would need a German license. They
said that there was reciprocity, so it was simply paperwork, no additional
checkrides, exams, etc. There was no mention of a fee, although I don't
know that there isn't one. I believe that any license issued by a member
country of ICAO can be used to obtain an equivalent license in any other
ICAO member country with just paperwork.

The British are of course an exception because their glider "licenses" are
issued by the BGA and not by an ICAO recognized organization. I think
this decision shortchanges British citizens by making it more difficult
for their citizens to fly abroad.

dan

[Mike Schumann]

Is a medical required in Europe for flying gliders (it's not in the US).

Mike Schumann

"Derek Copeland" > wrote in
message ...
> There isn't a European or EASA glider pilots licence
> as such yet, although there probably will be eventually.
> In general all the European countries accept each others
> qualifications, except the sodding Frogs who won't
> accept the UK qualifications. They have never forgiven
> us for the Battles of Trafalgar and Waterloo, and for
> winning their country back off the Germans for them
> in WW2 (with a bit of help from the Yanks).
>
> As long as you have an FAA licence and medical and
> join a BGA recognised club as a temporary member, I
> can't imagine that you would have any problems in the
> UK, as long as you could produce all your documents
> and a logbook.
>
> Derek Copeland
> ------------------------------------------
> At 01:00 17 March 2006, Mark Lenox wrote:
>>
>>Actually, what I'm really looking for is information
>>on the new European
>>license that covers all EU countries, not just the
>>individual countries.
>>Does anyone have one of these? A friend of mine has
>>one for power, but
>>he's not a glider pilot. He got his initial PPL and
>>Instrument ratings in
>>the US, then converted to a German license, then converted
>>again to Euro
>>license relatively recently. I don't entirely understand.
>>
>>I figured that would really be the way to go. If
>>it was just paperwork,
>>I'd get that taken care of so next time I'm in an EU
>>country (which happens
>>fairly often as the case may be). I'd be all set anywhere
>>but the UK, which
>>it appears would require BGA approvals.
>>
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>'Mark Lenox' wrote in message
...
>>> Does anyone know if it is possible to get a European
>>>pilot's license based
>>> on a US license?
>>>
>>> If so, what does it take? Is there only paperwork,
>>>or is a checkride
>>> involved?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Lenox
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

[Derek Copeland]

At 18:48 19 March 2006, Mike Schumann wrote:
>Is a medical required in Europe for flying gliders
>(it's not in the US).

Yes, even in the UK. Only came in fairly recently though.
We used to be able to self-certify for solo flying,
but not for instructing. Now we either need a JAA medical,
or a counter signature from one's own doctor as per
the NPPL scheme.

Derek Copeland

[nyffeler]

In article >, Asbjorn Hojmark > wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:46:29 GMT, "Mike Schumann"
> wrote:
>
>> Is a medical required in Europe for flying gliders (it's not in the US).
>
>Yes.

NO in Switzrerland
and I hope it remains so.

You see Europe is not just one country!

[W.J. \(Bill\) Dean \(U.K.\).]

W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.).
Remove "ic" to reply.
>
> "nyffeler" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>In article >,
>>Asbjorn Hojmark > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:46:29 GMT, "Mike Schumann"
> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is a medical required in Europe for flying gliders (it's not in the US).
>>
>>Yes.
>
> NO in Switzerland
> and I hope it remains so.
>
> You see Europe is not just one country!

And long may it remain so!

[Derek Copeland]

Switzerland is not part of the EU, as 77.3% of its
population sensibly voted not to join in a referendum
held in 2001. And that was before EASA was set up!
Maybe it will become the only European country where
one can actually fly gliders before too long. Do they
accept BGA gliding certificates and UK NPPL medicals?
If they do, I shall be going there for my holidays.

Derek Copeland

At 15:54 20 March 2006, Nyffeler wrote:
>In article , Asbjorn Hojmark wrote:
>>On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:46:29 GMT, 'Mike Schumann'
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is a medical required in Europe for flying gliders
>>>(it's not in the US).
>>
>>Yes.
>
>NO in Switzrerland
>and I hope it remains so.
>
>You see Europe is not just one country!
>

[Stefan]

Derek Copeland wrote:

> Switzerland is not part of the EU, as 77.3% of its
> population sensibly voted not to join in a referendum
> held in 2001. And that was before EASA was set up!

Do you really believe that 77.3% of the population cares the least bit
about EASA? Or does even know what it is?

> Maybe it will become the only European country where
> one can actually fly gliders before too long.

Bull****.

> Do they
> accept BGA gliding certificates and UK NPPL medicals?

Yes. The regulation used to be on the FOCA internet page
http://www.aviation.admin.ch/ , but it seems that is has been removed.
Give them a call or write them an e-mail, they are usually very friendly
and happy to help. (As long as you're not writing such bull**** as above...)

Stefan

[Ian Strachan]

Chris Reed wrote:
> In the UK there is no licence.
>
> Turn up at a gliding club (locations via www.gliding.co.uk), show your
> licence and log book, take whatever check rides the instructor of the
> day requires, and then fly whatever he/she is happy with you flying.
>
> It's sensible to telephone in advance to discover local peculiarities -
> for example, I believe that the Midland Gliding Club (Long Mynd) is
> winch only during weekdays, so you might only be able to fly dual if
> your previous experience is aeerotow only. Small clubs might have one or
> more aircraft out of service, which could mean little chance of flying
> that day, etc.

So the answer, if in doubt, is to go to a big UK club, one that
operates 365 days per year and has aero-tows as well as wire launches.
Ring them up first to see what deals are on offer for non-members.
Bring your gliding logbook and any pilot licences with you.

The largest UK gliding organisation is Lasham Gliding Society (a
consortium of several clubs and many private owners) between London and
Southampton, but others include the historic London Gliding Club at
Dunstable Downs, Husbands Bosworth in the Midlands and the Bristol Club
at Nympsfield. In the North, the Yorkshire club at Sutton Bank and in
Scotland the Scottish Gliding Union at Portmoak. Apologies to any
large organisations that I have left out! The BGA web site has all the
details, see www.gliding.co.uk

Ian Strachan
Lasham Gliding Centre
Hampshire, UK