B-58

[Darrell S]

Take a look at my B-58 web site shown below. While there be sure to click
on the link for More B-58 Pictures Annex for 3 more pages of pictures and
text about the Hustler. Sign the Guest Book.

Darrell R. Schmidt
B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/


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Darrell R. Schmidt
B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
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[bBob]

"Darrell S" > wrote in message
news:t4iTf.9252$z82.4212@fed1read07...
> Take a look at my B-58 web site shown below. While there be sure to click
> on the link for More B-58 Pictures Annex for 3 more pages of pictures and
> text about the Hustler. Sign the Guest Book.
>
> Darrell R. Schmidt
> B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/

Nice web site Darrell!

[Morgans]

"Darrell S" > wrote in message
news:t4iTf.9252$z82.4212@fed1read07...
> Take a look at my B-58 web site shown below. While there be sure to click
> on the link for More B-58 Pictures Annex for 3 more pages of pictures and
> text about the Hustler.

Are there recent new additions, or the same stuff you have had there for a
while?

Nice page, by the way.
--
Jim in NC

[raoul]

In article <t4iTf.9252$z82.4212@fed1read07>, Darrell S
> wrote:

> Take a look at my B-58 web site shown below. While there be sure to click
> on the link for More B-58 Pictures Annex for 3 more pages of pictures and
> text about the Hustler. Sign the Guest Book.
>
> Darrell R. Schmidt
> B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/

Nice page!

What are the jobs of the crew (forward to aft) . Logical that the
skipper is in the forward compartment- what are the jobs of the guys in
the next two compartments? Did this airplane have ejection seats?

I think I had a model of this airplane when I was a kid. Always liked
the looks of the Hustler.

raoul

[bBob]

"raoul" > wrote in message
...
> In article <t4iTf.9252$z82.4212@fed1read07>, Darrell S
> > wrote:
>
> > Take a look at my B-58 web site shown below. While there be sure to
click
> > on the link for More B-58 Pictures Annex for 3 more pages of pictures
and
> > text about the Hustler. Sign the Guest Book.
> >
> > Darrell R. Schmidt
> > B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
>
> Nice page!
>
> What are the jobs of the crew (forward to aft) . Logical that the
> skipper is in the forward compartment- what are the jobs of the guys in
> the next two compartments?

Discussed on his site.

>Did this airplane have ejection seats?

Also discussed on his site.

[Rob Arndt]

Nice site and nice Lippisch delta rip-off like the F-102/106.

Rob

[John]

Rob,

Not to take a single thing away from Dr. Lissisch, but to suggest every
delta is a rip-off of his work is to suggest that any aircraft is a
rip-off of anything with a similar planaform. To follow that same
arguement, you end up with a Pitts biplane being a rip-off of the
Wright Flyer; they both being biplanes.

Blue skies

John

[John]

Son of a gun . . . just found the typo . . . sorry . . . meant to write
Dr. Lippisch. My apologies.

John

[Blair Maynard]

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:15:28 -0800, "Darrell S" >
wrote:

>Take a look at my B-58 web site shown below. While there be sure to click
>on the link for More B-58 Pictures Annex for 3 more pages of pictures and
>text about the Hustler. Sign the Guest Book.
>
>Darrell R. Schmidt
>B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
I see seats for the pilot, navigator, and DSO. Where did they put the
bear?

[[email protected]]

Nice site. The 2nd photo of the crew standing up with hatches open
reminds me of the "Whack-A-Mole" game.

The Hustler was always one of my favorites. Amazing how far engine tech
has come - 15,000lbst in burner for the J79 doesn't seem like very much
today.

[Rob Arndt]

Sorry John,

You mean well, but you are absolutely wrong in this case. ALL of
Convair's deltas were based on Dr. Lippisch's P.13A and Dr. Lippisch
himself was a consultant for Convair postwar in the US which led the
company to build the XF-92, F-102, F-106, and B-58.
Dr.Lippisch then went to Collins with his aerodyne proposals and then
on to WIG aircraft development.
The man was a true aviation pioneer but contrary to popular belief
Roland Payen was actually the King of Deltas, although he is seldom
credited for his impressive visionary designs, the majority never built
except for his Flechair which was captured by the Nazis in France and
flown back to Germany for evaluation. It was sadly destroyed in a
bombing raid. The Japanese also planned to deploy a Payen design under
the Sukukaze 20 OMAR which was never built. And to top it off, Payen
pre-war was working on a fighter design that would utilize a ramjet-
the Melot ramjet that ultimately failed.
Imagine if the ramjet worked and Payen got the funding to build ramjet
fighters before 1940.

Rob

p.s. Interesting story on the captured Flechair. It was untested when
the Luftwaffe pilot came to fly it back to Germany. No one told him and
yet the arrogant pilot just jumped into the experimental plane and DID
fly it all the way back to Germany. The French expected him to crash
but he didn't!!!

[Keith W]

"Rob Arndt" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Sorry John,
>
> You mean well, but you are absolutely wrong in this case. ALL of
> Convair's deltas were based on Dr. Lippisch's P.13A and Dr. Lippisch
> himself was a consultant for Convair postwar in the US which led the
> company to build the XF-92, F-102, F-106, and B-58.

In which case it was no rip-off now was it ?

A rip-off means stealing work , Convair paid for it
and unlike the German aviation industry actually
managed to turn the concept into working aircraft.

Keith



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[Tom]

I can remember seeing the Hustler fly over from Barksdale AFB in NW
Louisiana while I was in Jr. High. It was a beautiful thing to see. I
also can remember all the sonic booms from those days. Great site.

Tom

[Darrell S]

Mostly minor additions. Example: the source documents at the end of the
Annex now shows the January 06 cover of the Smithsonian Air & Space Magazine
that now is the latest magazine coverage of the Hustler. Even "yours truly"
is quoted in it. The Association home page link no longer works
(senioritis, I guess) Stuff like that.

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Darrell R. Schmidt
B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
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"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Darrell S" > wrote in message
> news:t4iTf.9252$z82.4212@fed1read07...
>> Take a look at my B-58 web site shown below. While there be sure to
>> click
>> on the link for More B-58 Pictures Annex for 3 more pages of pictures and
>> text about the Hustler.
>
> Are there recent new additions, or the same stuff you have had there for a
> while?
>
> Nice page, by the way.
> --
> Jim in NC
>

[Darrell S]

Good question. When the were checking the capsule ejection and deployment
with a bear, I don't know if they ever discussed what position (if any) the
bear was catapulted from. In the picture in my Home Page Annex it looks
like the bear was ejected from the Navigator position.

And...... to avoid any confusion..... the bear was not part of the normal
crew composition. :)

--

Darrell R. Schmidt
B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
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"Blair Maynard" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:15:28 -0800, "Darrell S" >
> wrote:
>
>>Take a look at my B-58 web site shown below. While there be sure to click
>>on the link for More B-58 Pictures Annex for 3 more pages of pictures and
>>text about the Hustler. Sign the Guest Book.
>>
>>Darrell R. Schmidt
>>B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
> I see seats for the pilot, navigator, and DSO. Where did they put the
> bear?

[Big John]

Stopped at Bunker Hill AFB to refuel early one pitch black night.
Filed flight plan and went out on ramp to preflight my bird.

All of a sudden heard the damnest noise and big shooting flames (fire
ball) going down the runway.

It was a B-58 taking off at night with all four burners on.

Very impressive even though I had seen lots of single and two engine
fighters take off at night in after burner.

There was so much fire that even a little leak would have caused the
thing to explode.

Cured me of wanting to fly that bird even with it's performance :o(

Big John
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On 20 Mar 2006 07:30:03 -0800, "
> wrote:

>Nice site. The 2nd photo of the crew standing up with hatches open
>reminds me of the "Whack-A-Mole" game.
>
>The Hustler was always one of my favorites. Amazing how far engine tech
>has come - 15,000lbst in burner for the J79 doesn't seem like very much
>today.