Aussie F-111 Bombs a North Korean Ship

[Jay Honeck]

http://makeashorterlink.com/?G4AD259DC

Supposedly this video (showing an Australian F-111 bombing a North
Korean ship that was seized for drug trafficking) is available over on
alt.binaries.multimedia.aviation. Unfortunately, I can't "see" that
newsgroup from work, where I'm stuck using GoogleGroups.

Is there a web-based way to see that group? I'd like to put a copy of
that video up on our aviation video page.
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[BTIZ]

that video was shown on the national news this evening..
maybe check the CNN or NBC CBS ABC Web pages?

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?G4AD259DC
>
> Supposedly this video (showing an Australian F-111 bombing a North
> Korean ship that was seized for drug trafficking) is available over on
> alt.binaries.multimedia.aviation. Unfortunately, I can't "see" that
> newsgroup from work, where I'm stuck using GoogleGroups.
>
> Is there a web-based way to see that group? I'd like to put a copy of
> that video up on our aviation video page.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

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Nice header Jay - You'd have a bright future writing copy for the
Enquirer <G>

I read about that training excercise the other day. What caught my
attention is the fact the RAAF is still flying Aardvarks.

[Dylan Smith]

On 2006-03-24, > wrote:
> I read about that training excercise the other day. What caught my
> attention is the fact the RAAF is still flying Aardvarks.

The RAF was supposed to fly them as well - conspiracy theories state
that US pressure got the TSR.2 canceled in favour of the F111 - which
the RAF ultimately ended up canceling the order for because it was
over budget and late (sounds like software!). Funny, the RAF had to pay
cancelation fees for that - General Dynamics lawyers must have really
seen the British Government coming to have a contract where it could all
be going pear shaped yet they still get the cancelation fee!

The RAF ended up using the F-4 Phantom instead (and keeping the Canberra
- I think there are *still* some Canberras flying) but because the
British government was so embarrassed about the whole affair and the
general destruction of the UK's aerospace industry (largely caused by
the Government's meddling) insisted the F-4 be fitted with Rolls-Royce
Speys - meaning the F-4 had to be modified at great expense. At least
the Speys were a little bit more powerful than the original J-79 engines
so they did actually get something for that money. (Though the RAF would
have been perfectly happy with the standard F-4).

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[George]

> The RAF ended up using the F-4 Phantom instead (and keeping the Canberra
> - I think there are *still* some Canberras flying)

There are exactly two and they are both at NASA/JSC designated WB-57F for
high altitude research. They have a good web page on them.

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Dylan Smith > said:
>Speys - meaning the F-4 had to be modified at great expense. At least
>the Speys were a little bit more powerful than the original J-79 engines
>so they did actually get something for that money. (Though the RAF would
>have been perfectly happy with the standard F-4).

The Speys gave them better range, lower landing speed and better initial
climb, but top speed and high altitude performance suffered.

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f4_22.html

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>>>> ...snip.... insisted the F-4 be fitted with Rolls-Royce Speys - meaning the F-4 had to be modified at great expense. At least the Speys were a little bit more powerful than the original J-79 engines so they did actually get something for that money.<<<<

Problem was the Speys were heavier and needed larger intakes which
increased drag and air mass flow thus effectively negating any
performance increase from the higher power engines. Upside? They didn't
smoke like the J79s (bad habit)

[Dylan Smith]

On 2006-03-24, > wrote:
> Problem was the Speys were heavier and needed larger intakes which
> increased drag and air mass flow thus effectively negating any
> performance increase from the higher power engines. Upside? They didn't
> smoke like the J79s (bad habit)

It also gave them better acceleration and climb, which was useful given
that some of them went to the Navy for carrier service.

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