Chicago O'Hare -- The Largest Airport Expansion in History

[Jay Honeck]

http://makeashorterlink.com/?B207125EC

$15 billion to expand O'Hare.

Dang, just think of how many GA airports that much $$$ could
rejuvenate!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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I'm waiting for Skylune to jump on this thread and rant about the
huuuuge subsidies given to ORD for this project...

[Jay Honeck]

> I'm waiting for Skylune to jump on this thread and rant about the
> huuuuge subsidies given to ORD for this project...

In the case of O'Hare, I might be inclined to agree with him.

After what he did to Meigs, King Daley and his Democratic Machine
should pay every dime of that $15 billion O'Hare expansion bill.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Andrew Gideon]

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 16:32:48 -0700, Jay Honeck wrote:

> After what he did to Meigs, King Daley and his Democratic Machine should
> pay every dime of that $15 billion O'Hare expansion bill. --

Indeed. Why are we wasting money on an airport for a city that obviously
feels such an excess in capacity that it can vandalize one overnight into
uselessness?

- Andrew

[Michelle]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?B207125EC
>
> $15 billion to expand O'Hare.
>
> Dang, just think of how many GA airports that much $$$ could
> rejuvenate!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
I think we need to divert these funds to rebuild Miegs!
Michelle

[Dan Luke]

"Jay Honeck" wrote:

> $15 billion to expand O'Hare.
>
> Dang, just think of how many GA airports that much $$$ could
> rejuvenate!

Just think of how much of that $$$ is going to wind up in the pockets of
Daley's political cronies.

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

[Steve Foley]

Skylune's issue seems to be subsidizing GA.

Chicago has to be the most GA unfriendly place on the planet.

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> I'm waiting for Skylune to jump on this thread and rant about the
> huuuuge subsidies given to ORD for this project...
>

[Dave Stadt]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?B207125EC
>
> $15 billion to expand O'Hare.

The first bid for major work came in way over budget. They sent it back out
for bid again. Wonder what the final cost will be.

> Dang, just think of how many GA airports that much $$$ could
> rejuvenate!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

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Steve F. said:

>>>Skylune's issue seems to be subsidizing GA... snip... Chicago has to be the most GA unfriendly place on the planet<<<

I realize this, I'm just curious to see if he'd have anything to say
over a multi-billion dollar subsidy to aviation in geneal. As far as
your second thought, I agree.

[Skylune]

by " > Apr 3, 2006 at 08:11 AM



I realize this, I'm just curious to see if he'd have anything to say
over a multi-billion dollar subsidy to aviation in geneal. As far as
your second thought, I agree

<<

I'd agree with his first thought, as well.

[Skylune]

by "Steve Foley" > Apr 3, 2006 at 01:55 PM


Skylune's issue seems to be subsidizing GA.

Chicago has to be the most GA unfriendly place on the planet.

<<

DC?

[Jim Macklin]

Chicago has some nice airports, just not Midway or O'Hare.
There is no room to expand those airports, they are
surrounded. If they can do a Japan type construction
project, build an island miles off shore, just east of where
Miegs used to be. No problems with interference with the
other airports, just build a 6 lane car bridge and a rail
line.


"Skylune" > wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
| by "Steve Foley" > Apr 3, 2006
at 01:55 PM
|
|
| Skylune's issue seems to be subsidizing GA.
|
| Chicago has to be the most GA unfriendly place on the
planet.
|
| <<
|
| DC?
|
|
|

[Jose]

> No problems with interference with the
> other airports, just build a 6 lane car bridge and a rail
> line.

.... and a toll booth.

Jose
--
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[Steve Foley]

"Skylune" > wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
>> Chicago has to be the most GA unfriendly place on the planet.
>
> DC?
>
Chicago tore up the GA airport for 'security' reasons, then ask to expand
O'hare.

DC is aviation unfriendly, not limited to GA.

Coming back from a bachelor party in New Orleans, my brother woke up as the
plane started descending into National Airport. He decided he needed to use
the toilet and started to get up. He slept through the announcement that
NOBODY could get up during the last 1/2 hour of the flight. Fortunately, his
two friends (one on each side) were able to keep him down until he
understood that we weren't kidding.

[Dave Stadt]

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:bXcYf.8547$t22.793@dukeread08...
> Chicago has some nice airports, just not Midway or O'Hare.
>
The only airports in Chicago are Midway and O'Hare.

>There is no room to expand those airports, they are
> surrounded. If they can do a Japan type construction
> project, build an island miles off shore, just east of where
> Miegs used to be. No problems with interference with the
> other airports, just build a 6 lane car bridge and a rail
> line.

[Jim Macklin]

Really, have you looked at the Chicago sectional lately?
Those are the BIG airports the airlines serve, but there are
other airports that serve biz-jets and puddle-jumpers in the
Chicago area.


"Dave Stadt" > wrote in message
et...
|
| "Jim Macklin" > wrote
in message
| news:bXcYf.8547$t22.793@dukeread08...
| > Chicago has some nice airports, just not Midway or
O'Hare.
| >
| The only airports in Chicago are Midway and O'Hare.
|
| >There is no room to expand those airports, they are
| > surrounded. If they can do a Japan type construction
| > project, build an island miles off shore, just east of
where
| > Miegs used to be. No problems with interference with
the
| > other airports, just build a 6 lane car bridge and a
rail
| > line.
|
|
|

[Dave Stadt]

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:%LfYf.8556$t22.1208@dukeread08...
> Really, have you looked at the Chicago sectional lately?
> Those are the BIG airports the airlines serve, but there are
> other airports that serve biz-jets and puddle-jumpers in the
> Chicago area.

Yes, I looked at a Chicago sectional as recently as last Saturday.
Key word...area. You initially left out that key word. Details, details,
details.

> "Dave Stadt" > wrote in message
> et...
> |
> | "Jim Macklin" > wrote
> in message
> | news:bXcYf.8547$t22.793@dukeread08...
> | > Chicago has some nice airports, just not Midway or
> O'Hare.
> | >
> | The only airports in Chicago are Midway and O'Hare.
> |
> | >There is no room to expand those airports, they are
> | > surrounded. If they can do a Japan type construction
> | > project, build an island miles off shore, just east of
> where
> | > Miegs used to be. No problems with interference with
> the
> | > other airports, just build a 6 lane car bridge and a
> rail
> | > line.
> |
> |
> |
>
>

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:%LfYf.8556$t22.1208@dukeread08...
>
> Really, have you looked at the Chicago sectional lately?
>

City limits are not depicted on sectionals.


>
> Those are the BIG airports the airlines serve, but there are
> other airports that serve biz-jets and puddle-jumpers in the
> Chicago area.
>

But not in Chicago.

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Jim Macklin wrote:
> If they can do a Japan type construction
>project, build an island miles off shore, just east of where
>Miegs used to be.

As a taxpayer, why would I support that? Daly would go along with it
to get the money input, and the crony labor contract. But what's to
keep him from bulldozing that too? After all, there's no way to build
it so far out (and ruin part of the lake) that it isn't "a danger" to
Daly (read: a benefit to him to have it vandalized).

[[email protected]]

wrote:
> Steve F. said:
>
> >>>Skylune's issue seems to be subsidizing GA... snip... Chicago has to be the most GA unfriendly place on the planet<<<
>
> I realize this, I'm just curious to see if he'd have anything to say
> over a multi-billion dollar subsidy to aviation in geneal. As far as
> your second thought, I agree.

Given that "aviation" is paying for the expansion, in the form of
landing fees, pax. fac. fees, and
FAA grants, no "subsidy" is being provided. Unlike, say DuPage County
Airport for example.

Its scary that some people have such a poor handle on aviation finance
issues, yet claim to have pilot's licenses.

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