Glenview: 'The Glen' an artifical place of bill****. GLENVIEW NAVAL AIR STATION ruled!

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http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2359/theglensucksgnasrules0pu.jpg

an F-15 Eagle (F-15E Strike Eagle?) at the Glenview Naval Air
Station......... before the disgusting anti-american politicians
decided to close the base down....and before GNAS became an artifical
bubble of wasteland-suburbia *within* the suburb-villiage of Glenview.

I miss the jets roaring overhead. now there is nothing but high price
homes and BULL****


they should have closed down Glenbrook South High School instead. now
THAT was a place worth closing down.

[kenji]

In article om>,
wrote:

> I miss the jets roaring overhead. now there is nothing but high price
> homes and BULL****

I like to fish that big pond they have there.

Whenever I'm there, strangers come up and talk with me and never once
have any of them asked for money.

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In chi.general wrote:
: http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2359/theglensucksgnasrules0pu.jpg

: an F-15 Eagle (F-15E Strike Eagle?) at the Glenview Naval Air
: Station......... before the disgusting anti-american politicians
: decided to close the base down....and before GNAS became an artifical
: bubble of wasteland-suburbia *within* the suburb-villiage of Glenview.

Well, I'm not positive from that picture, but I'd bet the Navy would rather
close the base than show off Air Force equipment like a F-15.

I'd guess it's a F-14. (http://www.topedge.com/alley/images/f14d/f14d124e.htm)

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In chi.general Scott en Aztln > wrote:
: On 7 Apr 2006 20:49:10 -0700, wrote:

:>http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2359/theglensucksgnasrules0pu.jpg
:>
:>an F-15 Eagle (F-15E Strike Eagle?) at the Glenview Naval Air
:>Station......... before the disgusting anti-american politicians
:>decided to close the base down....and before GNAS became an artifical
:>bubble of wasteland-suburbia *within* the suburb-villiage of Glenview.
:>
:>I miss the jets roaring overhead. now there is nothing but high price
:>homes and BULL****

: Ah, so THAT'S what I smell as I drive west on Willow Road...

Aren't you like way west of there? Like in the state of California west?

Anyway, what you probably smelled was the garbage dump that was just north
of Glenview... that was where that british bomber crashed that had came to
the Chicago Air Show back in the 80's (was it late 70's?).

I think it's a golf course now...

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it is definitally an F-15 Eagle. which is an Air Force fighter. I
just don't know if it's an F-15C or an F-15E Strike Eagle.

I lived in Glenview for over 12 years. USAF planes landed at
Glenview Naval Air Station all the time. they came right over my
house. F-15s, F-16s and A-10s, in regular, non-crisis times.

then during the first gulf war, i saw a bunch of A-10s either landing
or taking off from GNAS

I saw a B-52 there, and the ThunderBirds (F-16s) and B-1B Lancer
Bombers used GNAS for the Chicago Air & Water Show.


I've seen non-Navy cargo planes at GNAS too. not a C-5 Galaxy but one
of the smaller ones.

in addition to all the Navy F-14 Tomcats, and F/A-18 Hornets and P-3
Orions.

someone out there must be able to confirm what i am saying.

[kenji]

In article >,
Scott en Aztl?n > wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 01:20:46 -0500, kenji > wrote:
>
> >In article om>,
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I miss the jets roaring overhead. now there is nothing but high price
> >> homes and BULL****
> >
> >I like to fish that big pond they have there.
> >
> >Whenever I'm there, strangers come up and talk with me and never once
> >have any of them asked for money.
>
> They just tell you to GTFO?

no that's what's weird. It's a public park all around the lake. We go
there during the spring and summer to fish along the banks. Nice size
bass and huge bluegill, well setup and maintained shore and public
structures. Folks come right up, stay and watch for 10 minutes, strike
up conversations and sincerely look you in the eyes.

Now when we go to the Lakefront, the chicago river, or skokie lagoons
that kinda **** doesn't happen.

[kenji]

In article >,
Scott en Aztl?n > wrote:

> ...And a ****load of million-dollar townhouses...

no, not that expensive....

[Tex Houston]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> it is definitally an F-15 Eagle. which is an Air Force fighter. I
> just don't know if it's an F-15C or an F-15E Strike Eagle.
>
Since the F-15A and C (with the exception of two TF-15A development
aircraft) are single cockpit aircraft and the F-15B/D/E are dual cockpit
aircraft you might take another look at the photo.

Tex

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thanks!

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it's difficult to tell from the photo - but I am leaning towards it
being the F-15E Strike Eagle. there*seems* to be a second cockpit.
and also the Strike Eagles were painted darker, as one one in the photo
seems to be.

even if it's not a Strike Eagle, it's still definitally an F-15 of some
kind,
and not an F-14, that I am 100% certain of.

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a USAF A-10 Thunder Bolt II at Glenview Naval Air Station
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7415/gnasa101016x7621mg.jpg

..

most likely a NAVY F-14 Tomcat at Glenview Naval Air Station
http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/4856/gnasf14tomcat1016x7622zb.jpg

..

slightly bighter shot of the USAF F-15 Eagle at Glenview Naval Air
Station
http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/450/gnasf15eagle1524x11437qg.jpg

..

USAF B-52 Stratofortress Bomber at Glenview Naval Air Station
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3782/ngasb521524x11438bv.jpg


ok I cannot actually *prove* these are all from GNAS, but they're all
from when I was there in the late 80s, or very early 90s.

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yes, in funniness, that is what you smell as you drive along Willow Rd.


actually, it is a garbage dump along Willow Rd, just outside of where
Glenview Naval Air Station was. that garbage dumo was there before
'The Glen'

I don't know about currently, but when I lived there, there were these
little torches lit along the 'hills' where i guess all the garbage was
buried. IIRC, they were little pipes or whatever, that let the methane
escape and burn so it wouldn't all go kaboom.

I'd imagine now, since THE GLEN is there, instead of the Naval Air
Station, there is a lot MORE suburban waste being generated, perhaps
adding to the size & smell of that garbage dump along Willow Rd.

[Jim Carriere]

wrote:
> it's difficult to tell from the photo - but I am leaning towards it
> being the F-15E Strike Eagle. there*seems* to be a second cockpit.
> and also the Strike Eagles were painted darker, as one one in the photo
> seems to be.

The photo is grainy too, but it looks like a FAST pack next to the
intake. Did the "A" have those? (IIRC, no.)

[Fred J. McCall]

"Tex Houston" > wrote:

:
> wrote in message
roups.com...
:> it is definitally an F-15 Eagle. which is an Air Force fighter. I
:> just don't know if it's an F-15C or an F-15E Strike Eagle.
:>
:Since the F-15A and C (with the exception of two TF-15A development
:aircraft) are single cockpit aircraft and the F-15B/D/E are dual cockpit
:aircraft you might take another look at the photo.

It can be easier than that. From most angles you can see the 'break'
in the wing flow where the glove vane goes in and out and/or where the
pivot for the swing wing is

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[John Keeney]

wrote:
> most likely a NAVY F-14 Tomcat at Glenview Naval Air Station
> http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/4856/gnasf14tomcat1016x7622zb.jpg

Absolutely no doult about it, that's a 14. Pre D model if I'm not
mistaken.

> slightly bighter shot of the USAF F-15 Eagle at Glenview Naval Air
> Station
> http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/450/gnasf15eagle1524x11437qg.jpg

Once again, no doult a F-15. Probably an E.

[trent]

kenji wrote:
>
> In article >,
> Scott en Aztl?n > wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 01:20:46 -0500, kenji > wrote:
> >
> > >In article om>,
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I miss the jets roaring overhead. now there is nothing but high price
> > >> homes and BULL****
> > >
> > >I like to fish that big pond they have there.
> > >
> > >Whenever I'm there, strangers come up and talk with me and never once
> > >have any of them asked for money.
> >
> > They just tell you to GTFO?
>
> no that's what's weird. It's a public park all around the lake. We go
> there during the spring and summer to fish along the banks. Nice size
> bass and huge bluegill, well setup and maintained shore and public
> structures. Folks come right up, stay and watch for 10 minutes, strike
> up conversations and sincerely look you in the eyes.

And when they hear you're from "The City" they run away and wash their
hands.

trent
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"This user has a pattern of behaviour in the usenet group chi.forsale
that borders on abusive."

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In chi.general wrote:
: yes, in funniness, that is what you smell as you drive along Willow Rd.


: actually, it is a garbage dump along Willow Rd, just outside of where
: Glenview Naval Air Station was. that garbage dumo was there before
: 'The Glen'

: I don't know about currently, but when I lived there, there were these
: little torches lit along the 'hills' where i guess all the garbage was
: buried. IIRC, they were little pipes or whatever, that let the methane
: escape and burn so it wouldn't all go kaboom.

I haven't driven up there recently, but other dumps i've seen have removed
the torches and instead run the methane in small power generators, so at
least it's not just a wasted burn.

: I'd imagine now, since THE GLEN is there, instead of the Naval Air
: Station, there is a lot MORE suburban waste being generated, perhaps
: adding to the size & smell of that garbage dump along Willow Rd.

I think in addition to not burning the methane straight out, they put few
inches of topsoil on the ground and now they have a nice grass covered golf
course... that probably eliminated most of the smell.

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thanks for the confirmation for the other people.


man, every once in awhile, I heard & felt the mighty roar of the F-15
Eagles as they roared over my house and backyard, landing at the
Glenview Navy Base.

Although I saw F-16 Falcons much more often. F-16s were as frequent a
sight as Navy F-14 Tomcats and F/A-18 Hornets, coming into Glenview,
circling around, or maybe taking off.

I think I remember an F-117 Nighthawk Stealth fighter over Glenview.
don't know if it was taking off or landing at GNAS, but I'm pretty sure
I saw the Stealth at least once or twice. it was most likely the early
1990s. maybe Gulf War related activity. dunno.


but my most fond memory......

one particular day in the 1980s, maybe on Armed Forces Day (not sure)
..........
an F-15 Eagle came *screaming* in, doing rapid barrel rolls over my
yard as it headed in the direction of GNAS....not the typical approach
that USAF and Navy jets usually did.

I will NEVER forget that.

[Dave Anderer]

On 7 Apr 2006 20:49:10 -0700, wrote:

>they should have closed down Glenbrook South High School instead. now
>THAT was a place worth closing down.

Oh, it wasn't that bad. At least 30 years ago..

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kenji wrote:
> In article >,
> Scott en Aztl?n > wrote:
>
> > ...And a ****load of million-dollar townhouses...
>
> no, not that expensive....


well, my old house, a 3-bedroom, 2 full bath, brick, tri-level, no
full basement
(just utility sub basement) single car garage, built in the 1940s:

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/169/3brbrickhouse18kq.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7783/3brbrickhouse28lh.jpg
(photos from the 1980s)

after being a spruced up a little (windows, roof) sold for well over
*** $400,000 ***
a year or two ago

so I'd imagine that some of the larger new homes in 'THE GLEN' sell
for a lot more, approaching $1 million, with prices of new but
lower-end houses being in the $500K - $750 range. just a guess.

[kenji]

In article . com>,
wrote:

> kenji wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Scott en Aztl?n > wrote:
> >
> > > ...And a ****load of million-dollar townhouses...
> >
> > no, not that expensive....
>
>
> well, my old house, a 3-bedroom, 2 full bath, brick, tri-level, no
> full basement
> (just utility sub basement) single car garage, built in the 1940s:
>
> http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/169/3brbrickhouse18kq.jpg
> http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7783/3brbrickhouse28lh.jpg
> (photos from the 1980s)
>
> after being a spruced up a little (windows, roof) sold for well over
> *** $400,000 ***
> a year or two ago
>
> so I'd imagine that some of the larger new homes in 'THE GLEN' sell
> for a lot more, approaching $1 million, with prices of new but
> lower-end houses being in the $500K - $750 range. just a guess.

the OP said "townhome" not a standalone single family residence.

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You should have been there when it was filled with N3N's and then the B-19
landed and broke through the tarmac.