Re: Meigs Class D Still Active?

[Bob Gardner]

Do you have to call the tower when the tower is closed at any other airport?

Bob Gardner

"Tom Fleischman" > wrote in
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> I'm planning a flight to Racine (KRAC) and I'd like to transition along
> the lake shore between Gary (GYY) and Racine. The only problematic
> airspace is the Meigs Class D which is still depicted on the sectional and
> terminal chart.
>
> Does one still have to establish comm in order to transition Meigs Class
> D? There is an RCO freq listed.
>

[B A R R Y]

Bob Gardner wrote:
> Do you have to call the tower when the tower is closed at any other airport?

How do you call a tower that's no longer there?

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"B A R R Y" > wrote in message
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> How do you call a tower that's no longer there?
>

Use a radio equipped with flux capacitors.

[B A R R Y]

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
> "B A R R Y" > wrote in message
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>> How do you call a tower that's no longer there?
>>
>
> Use a radio equipped with flux capacitors.
>
>


I pictured some guy sitting in a lawn chair, where the tower used to be,
talking into a handheld. He'd also have a battery powered light gun,
just in case... <G>

[Paul kgyy]

The tower is still there :-)

[B A R R Y]

Paul kgyy wrote:
> The tower is still there :-)
>

Sorry, I thought they tore it down when they wreck the airport.

So, the guy won't need the lawn chair? <G>

[Art Varrassi]

Bob Gardner makes an excellent point. If the tower is closed - it's closed.
You don't have to make contact with them. So no, Meigs Class D is not
active.

"B A R R Y" > wrote in message
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> Bob Gardner wrote:
>> Do you have to call the tower when the tower is closed at any other
>> airport?
>
> How do you call a tower that's no longer there?

[Montblack]

("B A R R Y" wrote)
> How do you call a tower that's no longer there?


Call a different tower. I suggest Sears.


MontyWards ...speaking of no longer there.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Art Varrassi" > wrote in message
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> Bob Gardner makes an excellent point. If the tower is closed - it's
> closed. You don't have to make contact with them. So no, Meigs Class D is
> not active.
>

Controlled airspace is established by regulatory action. Part-time Class D
airspace will be in effect for the period the tower is open. But if
something happens to force the early closure of the tower the airspace
remains Class D.

Airspace changes have to go through the entire rulemaking process. An NPRM
is issued with a 90 day comment period. That's what happened at Meigs, the
Class D airspace remained in effect well after the field was destroyed.
Two years ago Meigs was depicted by name as a closed, uncontrolled field
within a Class D surface area. There was no entry for the airport in the
A/FD, just for the RCO. The approaches had been removed from the TPP. You
had Class D airspace without an operating control tower.

[Art Varrassi]

Most of the Class D airports I fly to revert to Class G when the tower is
closed. Is that not true for Meigs?


"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
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> "Art Varrassi" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Bob Gardner makes an excellent point. If the tower is closed - it's
>> closed. You don't have to make contact with them. So no, Meigs Class D is
>> not active.
>>
>
> Controlled airspace is established by regulatory action. Part-time Class
> D
> airspace will be in effect for the period the tower is open. But if
> something happens to force the early closure of the tower the airspace
> remains Class D.
>
> Airspace changes have to go through the entire rulemaking process. An
> NPRM
> is issued with a 90 day comment period. That's what happened at Meigs,
> the
> Class D airspace remained in effect well after the field was destroyed.
> Two years ago Meigs was depicted by name as a closed, uncontrolled field
> within a Class D surface area. There was no entry for the airport in the
> A/FD, just for the RCO. The approaches had been removed from the TPP.
> You
> had Class D airspace without an operating control tower.
>

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Art Varrassi" > wrote in message
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> Most of the Class D airports I fly to revert to Class G when the tower is
> closed. Is that not true for Meigs?
>

Meigs had Class D airspace from 6 AM to 10 PM and Class G airspace from 10
PM to 6 AM.

[B A R R Y]

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

>
> Meigs had Class D airspace from 6 AM to 10 PM and Class G airspace from 10
> PM to 6 AM.
>

Typically, the G is only from the surface to the bottom of the overlying
E, no?

For instance, many of my local D's are located within E down to 700.
I've heard the tower closing announcements @ GON & HVN, where they state
that the space defaults to G. I always assumed that this meant only to
the floor of the overlying space.

Am I confused? <G>

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"B A R R Y" > wrote in message
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> Typically, the G is only from the surface to the bottom of the overlying
> E, no?
>

Yes.