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John Huthmaker
April 29th 06, 07:36 AM
Its been a very long time since I have last posted about any of my flying.
That is because I have been saving up for about 2 months, without flying
:( to make a very very long flight.

This last monday, my flight instructor and myself took a flight from Long
Beach to Marysville Airport. The reason for this journey was to partake in
Altitude Training at Beale Air Force Base. The trip out took 4.4 hours
total time, and we made a stop at Los Banos for a fuel stop. In order to
get the most out of this flight we did it under IFR, and I flew most of the
way under the hood as well as making instrument approaches at both airports.
It was a very good workout since I havent done any instrument work since I
got my PPL.

The training at Beale was unbelievable. I would highly recommend it. It
was an 8 hour class with 2 in the chamber. This would be a very long write
up if I detailed the training out, but here is the gist of the chamber ride.
a) Breath 100% oxygen with a fighter pilot breathing apparatus for 45
minutes to purge the body of Nitrogen. b) During purge take the chamber to
5000' and back to 0' to see if anyone is having sinus or ear problems. c)
After Nitrogen purge the chamber is taken to 12,000'. We sit at this level
for a little bit to get everyone comfortable and to remove the oxygen masks.
d) Taken to 18,000' and given a skills test. It takes a few minutes at this
level to begin to feel hypoxic, but you can tell pretty easily that you are
becoming unproductive. e) Taken to 25,000' to see what a rapid decompression
would be like. As soon as you know what your fully hypoxic symptons are you
go back on 100% oxygen. f) Once everyone is back on oxygen you are taken
back to 12,000'. g) Continue to breath 100% oxygen until you are fully
recovered, then take off oxygen. h) They dim the lights and are given a
color card. Wait to watch the colors fade out as you become slightly
hypoxic. i) Go back on 100% oxygen to see the colors return.

It was fun, and highly informative. Best of all the Airforce staff were
very welcoming. Not at all what I expected. Now for the best part. Beale
airforce base is where they train U2 pilots. We got to see U2's flying all
day long, and got to see their full pressure suits, etc. It was rad all
around.

Now for the flight home. We flew out probably 1 hour after we got out of
training. The flight back to Los Banos was perfect. We fly under VFR, but
again I flew under the hood and did the approach.

Now for the best part. It was about 7:30 pm as we got ready to leave Los
Banos back for Long Beach. The weather looked like it would require IFR, so
we filed a plan. Good choice, we flew about 2 hours in solid IFR in the
dark. That was intense. My instructor has 2800 hours, and I have 80. We
shared the piloting duties, and it was one hell of a workout. My instructor
even admitted that in those conditions he wouldnt want to have done it
alone.

It was 48 hours of flight training. When it was over I was glad to go home
and get some serious rest. However Im really glad I did it. The flight
home netted 5.5 hours, so it was 9.9 hours in the log book, mostly IFR, plus
the altitude training.

--
John Huthmaker
PPL-SEL P-28-161

http://www.cogentnetworking.com

john smith
April 29th 06, 07:56 PM
Good write up John.
How long after you mailed in the form did you hear back from them with
date for your session?
How long was the wait from the time you mailed it in until your session?

Jay Honeck
April 29th 06, 08:21 PM
> This last monday, my flight instructor and myself took a flight from Long
> Beach to Marysville Airport. The reason for this journey was to partake in
> Altitude Training at Beale Air Force Base.

Cool write up, John.

Can you give us some more details on how to get into this class? Cost?
Lead time?

Thanks!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Viperdoc
April 29th 06, 08:33 PM
Jay:

Offut in Nebraska as well as Andrews AFB also have chambers. It is very
informative and fun. One of the guys in our group volunteered to take his
mask off at 25,000 feet. Even with the instructors yelling at him, he was
unable to gang load his regulator and replace his mask, and it only took of
few seconds. It was a pretty dramatic demonstration of the time of useful
consciousness at 250. The people who did best without their masks on at
18,000 were me (terribly out of shape), and a woman flight surgeon who chain
smoked. Go figure.

I suggest contacting the aerospace physiology office at these bases for a
civilian ride, since they are the ones who manage the chambers.

Good luck.

Ray
April 29th 06, 09:23 PM
Jay Honeck wrote:
> Cool write up, John.
>
> Can you give us some more details on how to get into this class? Cost?
> Lead time?
>

Course info and registration details are here:

<http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/airman_education/aerospace_physiology/>

It costs $50.


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***************************
Raymond Woo
e-mail: raywoo|at|gmail.com
http://gromit.stanford.edu/ray

Flyingmonk
April 30th 06, 12:47 AM
Thank you John, cool...

The Monk

John Huthmaker
April 30th 06, 06:47 AM
I called the FAA. In fact the number is 405-954-6198. They gave me the
dates of available classes. One was 2 weeks from when I called, and the
other was 6 weeks. My instructor couldnt make the first, so we waited the 6
weeks. The forms were emailed directly to me. From their I signed it, and
mailed it in with a check for $50.00. That was all there was to it.

--
John Huthmaker
PPL-SEL P-28-161

http://www.cogentnetworking.com
"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> Good write up John.
> How long after you mailed in the form did you hear back from them with
> date for your session?
> How long was the wait from the time you mailed it in until your session?

John Huthmaker
April 30th 06, 06:48 AM
I just replied to the last post, and it has all the info. It seems like
they give the class to civilians once a month.

--
John Huthmaker
PPL-SEL P-28-161

http://www.cogentnetworking.com
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> This last monday, my flight instructor and myself took a flight from Long
>> Beach to Marysville Airport. The reason for this journey was to partake
>> in
>> Altitude Training at Beale Air Force Base.
>
> Cool write up, John.
>
> Can you give us some more details on how to get into this class? Cost?
> Lead time?
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

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