Aviation Movies - your top 5?

[news.ozemail.com.au]

I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:

1. Top Gun.
2. Angels One 5.
3. Memphis Bell.
4. Air America.
5. The Blue Max.

Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.

[Jim Macklin]

The Great Waldo Pepper
The Spirit of St. Louis Jimmy Stewart
Island in the Sky
The High and the Mighty
Flight of the Phoenix [old version with Jimmy Stewart, avoid
the new version like it is the worst ever]



--
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"news.ozemail.com.au" > wrote in
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|I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would
anyone want to
| volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
|
| 1. Top Gun.
| 2. Angels One 5.
| 3. Memphis Bell.
| 4. Air America.
| 5. The Blue Max.
|
| Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there
must be interesting
| non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying
action.
|
|
|

[Bob Noel]

In article >,
"news.ozemail.com.au" > wrote:

> I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
> volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>
> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
> non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.


12 oclock high
Tuskegee Airmen
Flight of the Pheonix
Memphix Belle
Always

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

[Tim Ward]

"news.ozemail.com.au" > wrote in message
...
>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.

.... curiously omitting:

Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines

Remember it was made before the days of CGI, it's all real special effects!

--
Tim Ward - posting as an individual unless otherwise clear
Brett Ward Limited - www.brettward.co.uk
Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb
Cambridge City Councillor

[Alpha_77DX]

"news.ozemail.com.au" > wrote in message
...
>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>
> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be
> interesting non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying
> action.
>

I like warbirds :)

1. Battle of Britain. Lots of Spitfires and Hurricanes.
2. 12 O'clock High. B17's doing what B17's do.
3. The Dam Busters. Real Lancasters, Barnes Wallis, a true story, say no
more!
4. 633 Squadron. Lots of Mosquito action, plus John Mellion. Trivia from
IMDB- Cliff Robertson, an accomplished pilot, wanted to buy one of the
Mosquitoes after filming had finished, as he was so impressed with the type.
He was not permitted to do this but he later bought a Spitfire Mk IX which
he owned until the late 1990s.
5. Con Air. Just a cool movie set on an aeroplane.

[Stealth Pilot]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:09:27 +0800, "news.ozemail.com.au"
> wrote:

>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
>1. Top Gun.
>2. Angels One 5.
>3. Memphis Bell.
>4. Air America.
>5. The Blue Max.
>
>Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
>non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.
>
>

not in order of merit

air america
those magnificent men in their flying machines
flight of the tiger ( a very charming australian kids movie )
the rocketeer (the extras are all competition aeromodelers)
slipstream (wierd english sci fi movie with the edgley optica)
mad max - flight of the thunderdome. (for the oddball ultralights)

heresy I know but for space flight...
flight of the navigator
wing commander
the last starfighter (just love grigg the turtle :-) )

Stealth pilot

[Dan Luke]

"news.ozemail.com.au" wrote:

>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>

#1 & 3 go in my *bottom* five.


My top 5:

1) 12 O'clock High
2) Flight of the Phoenix (the original with Jimmy Stewart)
3) The Dam Busters
4) Memphis Bell (the documentary)
5) Island in the Sky

Hmph...all B&W films except M B. It's been a damned long time since anyone
made an aviation movie I really liked, I guess.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

[Sla#s]

"news.ozemail.com.au" > wrote in message
...
>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>

Bird of prey. (I love Lamas!)
Starwars
The Bridges at Toko-Ri
Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines (I saw some of the machines
fly into Oxford - They really flew them!)
The Dam Busters.

And for the best ever aerial shot: Where the Lama breaks through the roof in
the opening secquence of Bird of Prey 2.

Slatts

[Dan Luke]

"Sla#s" wrote:

> The Bridges at Toko-Ri

Ooh, good one! Should've been on my list.

[Matt Barrow]

1) 12 o'Clock High
2) Fighter Squadron
3) Tuskegee Airmen
4) Flight of the Intruder
5) Fire Birds (okay..crappy plot but awesome helicopter footage)


--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

[elZee]

news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
> I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
> volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>
> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
> non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.

How could you all forget Clint Eastwood's Firefox! Oh .. Ok then! ;)

Battle of Britain for sure number one

Doctor Strangelove really enjoyed the flying sequences in that!

'Pop Gun' can't beat that desert action, sensational.

Strategic Air Command sticks in my mind, old US propaganda flick and all
those related flicks including Bridge @ Toko Ria.

So many English and US movies too many to remember or name

Memphis Belle, great flick.

Con Air/Air America/Apocalypse Now, remember the Flight of the
Valkeries!!!! scene? da da da daa daaaaa!! ;)

Hmm! Seems like that's more than five .. oh well!

Ooroo, elZee

[Brien K. Meehan]

So I Married an Axe Murderer

[david]

Memphis Belle? Rubbish. The older Stephen Spielberg spoof was MUCH better!

1. battle of Britain.
2. Topgun
3. Dambusters
3.Starwars episode 4. The hangar scene is brill.
4.Starwars episode 5. The fighter sweeps are brill.
5Almost any Thunderbirds episode! I flew TriStars and if they weren't
modelled on T2 I'm a Dutchman!

David


"Brien K. Meehan" > wrote in message
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[Tom Conner]

"david" > wrote in message
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> 3.Starwars episode 4. The hangar scene is brill.
> 4.Starwars episode 5. The fighter sweeps are brill.

Well, by that aviation criteria I would suggest Aliens. I love the scene
where the transport ship drops from the mother-ship onto the planet. Then
there is Serenity when the ship is deorbiting for the raid and the camera
pans around the ship and then into the bridge window. Great shot.

[Chris]

"news.ozemail.com.au" > wrote in message
...
>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>
> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be
> interesting non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying
> action.

Just the Dambuster - the best ever.

[Montblack]

("news.ozemail.com.au" wrote)
>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>volunteer their top five aviation movies?


1. Wings (1927) ....Silent Movie - Mel Brooks?
2. The Aviator (2004)
3. Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines (1965)
4. Fly Away Home (1996) ...Ultralight and orphan geese
5. Airplane! (1980)
6. Empire of the Sun (1987) ....Spielberg

H.M.
Airport (1970) ...Scenes are of Minneapolis/St Paul (MSP)
Twelve O'Clock High (1949)
The Blue Max (1966)
Flight Command (1940) ...Not a good movie, but fun to watch!
Midway (1976)
The Great Waldo Pepper (1975)
Tora! Tora! Tora! (1970)


Montblack

[Steve Firth]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:09:27 +0800, news.ozemail.com.au wrote:

> I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
> volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>
> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
> non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.

1. Catch 22
2. The Dam Busters
3. Battle of Britain
4. The Right Stuff
5. The Sound Barrier (1952) Not any of the later films with the same name.
6. The Spirit of St. Louis

Sorry, couldn't get it down to five.

[Greg]

"Tim Ward" > wrote in message
...
> Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines
>
> Remember it was made before the days of CGI, it's all real special
effects!

And you can still see some of the planes used in the movie flying at Old
Warden if you're lucky 8-)

Greg

[Paul Catley]

"Dan Luke" > wrote in message
...
>
> My top 5:
>
> 1) 12 O'clock High
> 2) Flight of the Phoenix (the original with Jimmy Stewart)
> 3) The Dam Busters
> 4) Memphis Bell (the documentary)
> 5) Island in the Sky
>
> Hmph...all B&W films except M B. It's been a damned long time since anyone
> made an aviation movie I really liked, I guess.

It's been a long time since you've seen Flight of the Phoenix too - it isn't in
black & white :)

1. The Dambusters
2. Tora! Tora! Tora!
3. Battle of Britain
4. Dark Blue World
5. Apocalypse Now (for the helicopter scenes)

Actually, I wish I'd voted for The Right Stuff and Flight of the Phoenix, but I
compiled my list without reference to the rest of the thread :) Must admit that
I like Strategic Air Command too, despite it being a dreadful flag-waving
exercise.

--
Paul

[Dan Luke]

"Paul Catley" wrote:
> "Dan Luke" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> My top 5:
>>
>> 1) 12 O'clock High
>> 2) Flight of the Phoenix (the original with Jimmy Stewart)
>> 3) The Dam Busters
>> 4) Memphis Bell (the documentary)
>> 5) Island in the Sky
>>
>> Hmph...all B&W films except M B. It's been a damned long time since
>> anyone made an aviation movie I really liked, I guess.
>
> It's been a long time since you've seen Flight of the Phoenix too - it
> isn't in black & white :)

I'm almost 60; my memory is in black and white--what's left of it.

[NickC]

'Bat 21' with Danny Glover and Gene Hackman has some good Birddog
footage, but maybe the best flying scene I've ever seen is a P-51 (?
from memory) coming in for aerial support and flying about 20' above
the ground, rolling it knifedge to pass between two trees, then rolling
it up and climbing away, with vapour vortexs streaming off the wing
tips. Great visually, and great flying. Made before CGI, too.


--
Nick

[JW²]

Who remembers "No Highway"? Jimmy Stewart, I seem to remember. Anything
of Nevil Shute's had to be good, in my eyes!

JW²

[BillJ]

news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
> I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
> volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>
> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
> non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.
>
>
>
Always is a favorite

also Aviator, not 2004, but Christopher Reeve/Ernest Gann

[Dick Simpson]

news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
> I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
> volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>
> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
> non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.
>
>
>
Battle of Britain
Dam Busters
Reach For The Sky

Any other aviation/war/true story you can think of that wasn`t
made Hollywood (Land of Bull****)
Simmo

[Frode Berg]

Pushing Tin is funny.

Though not realistic by any means.

:-)

Frode

"BillJ" > skrev i melding
...
> news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
>> I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>> volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>>
>> 1. Top Gun.
>> 2. Angels One 5.
>> 3. Memphis Bell.
>> 4. Air America.
>> 5. The Blue Max.
>>
>> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be
>> interesting non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying
>> action.
>>
>>
>>
> Always is a favorite
>
> also Aviator, not 2004, but Christopher Reeve/Ernest Gann

[Jim Logajan]

JW² <nadejackatoptusnetdotcomdotau> wrote:
> Who remembers "No Highway"? Jimmy Stewart, I seem to remember. Anything
> of Nevil Shute's had to be good, in my eyes!

It was titled "No Highway in the Sky" in the U.S. market. Great movie - saw
it on TV when I was a kid. I haven't seen it in decades but I still vividly
remember the scene where Stewart's character retracts the airplane's
landing gear while it's on the ground.

[Montblack]

("JW²" wrote)
> Who remembers "No Highway"? Jimmy Stewart, I seem to remember. Anything of
> Nevil Shute's had to be good, in my eyes!


No Highway in the Sky (1951)
<http://rinkworks.com/movies/m/no.highway.in.the.sky.1951.shtml>

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0043859/combined
I have not seen this one - will have to watch for it.

Looking through some old movies I HAVE NOT SEEN:

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0023973/#comment
"The Eagle and the Hawk" (1933)
Fredric March
Cary Grant
Jack Oakie
Carole Lombard

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0027221/#comment
"Wings in the Dark" (1935)
Cary Grant
Myrna Loy

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0031762/
"Only Angels Have Wings" (1939)
Cary Grant
Jean Arthur
Richard Barthelmess
Rita Hayworth

I've seen bits and pieces of this movie. I did see the Ford Tri-Motor crash
scene!

[From the link]
"This is one of the great tough romances, whose real romance is with death
itself, which needless to say makes it several steps darker than Hawks'
superficially similar To Have and Have Not, let alone Rio Bravo (which
reproduces its main characters almost exactly-- Grant as John Wayne,
Arthur/Angie Dickinson as the woman trying to get into the boy's club,
Barthelmess/Dean Martin as the guy with a guilty past of failure, and
Mitchell as the guy who age is catching up with/ Walter Brennan, old age
fully caught up)."

I bet Chili Palmer (John Travolta in "Get Shorty") didn't know THAT!!


Sky Giant (1938) Howard Hughes?
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0030760/
Good review of this film - near bottom.

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0224242/
Test Pilot (1957) Arthur Hailey short, staring James Doohan

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0040353/
Fighter Squadron (1948)
"Of course 'Fighter Squadron' employed P-51D Mustangs to depict Luftwaffe
Me.109G's. Big deal: how many films use the wrong gear to portray the right
gear? (Duh...Hollywood = PRETEND!)"


Montblack

[john smith]

No one mentioned

"A Guy Named Joe"
Spencer Tracy, Clark Gable

"Flying Tigers"
John Wayne

"Operation Crossbow"

[Jim Macklin]

the tail will fall off the Reindeer



"JW²" <nadejackatoptusnetdotcomdotau> wrote in message
u...
| Who remembers "No Highway"? Jimmy Stewart, I seem to
remember. Anything
| of Nevil Shute's had to be good, in my eyes!
|
| JW²

[Morgans]

"Montblack" > wrote

> No Highway in the Sky (1951)
> <http://rinkworks.com/movies/m/no.highway.in.the.sky.1951.shtml>
>
> http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0043859/combined
> I have not seen this one - will have to watch for it.

Good flick. I had forgotten about that one. If you don't want to know
about the central conflict and resolution of the plot, don't read this post
any further, because I am about to give it away. Others, scroll down.






He retracted the gear because he was about to take off (or a plane he was
nearby to) on a type of airplane that was experiencing catastrophic failures
at a certain number of hours, and this craft was about to go above those
hours on the upcoming flight. It delays the takeoff, by pulling the gear
up, until testing confirms the problem.
--
Jim in NC

[Montblack]

("Morgans" wrote)
> Good flick. I had forgotten about that one. If you don't want to know
> about the central conflict and resolution of the plot, don't read this
> post any further, because I am about to give it away. Others, scroll
> down.
>
>
>
>
> Jimmy Stewart is a man!


Col: You could always make it up to her. When a girl runs out like that, she
generally wants to be followed.
Fergus: She's not a girl, Col.
Col: Whatever you say.


Montblack :-)

[Steve Firth]

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:09:12 -0000, Jim Logajan wrote:

> I still vividly
> remember the scene where Stewart's character retracts the airplane's
> landing gear while it's on the ground.

Friend of my father did that in rather more spectacular style. During the
Berlin airlift they were in the habit of drinking until the small hours
before setting off back to England. They did the usual of going to a show,
drinking lots and getting little sleep, and set out at dawn with his
co-pilot playing host to a monumental hangover.

They taxied with the co pilot slumped in his seat looking green, and he
decided to leave him to it. As they turned onto the runway he looked at the
co pilot and said "c'mon mate, cheer up!"

"Righto skip, gear up."

Crunch, splinter, grind

"No mate I said cheer up."

[Ian Donaldson]

Try this list!


http://www.coastcomp.com/av/fltline2/avmovie.htm


regards


ian

[Graham]

Have a look at "Cloud Dancer" - lots of aerobatic stuff in Pitts's.

Also "Men of the Fighting Lady" - 1950's

[Jonathan Wilson]

My top 5 aviation movies:
Top Gun
Die Hard 2: Die Harder (does that count?)
If other people get to count space stuff, I count Apollo 13
The Aviator (the new one)
Pushing Tin

[elZee]

NickC wrote:
> 'Bat 21' with Danny Glover and Gene Hackman has some good Birddog
> footage, but maybe the best flying scene I've ever seen is a P-51 (?
> from memory) coming in for aerial support and flying about 20' above
> the ground, rolling it knifedge to pass between two trees, then rolling
> it up and climbing away, with vapour vortexs streaming off the wing
> tips. Great visually, and great flying. Made before CGI, too.
>
>

NickC,

Oh YEAH! great flick! :)

good call!

elZee

[Chris Ehlbeck]

NickC wrote:
> 'Bat 21' with Danny Glover and Gene Hackman has some good Birddog
> footage, but maybe the best flying scene I've ever seen is a P-51 (?
> from memory) coming in for aerial support and flying about 20' above
> the ground, rolling it knifedge to pass between two trees, then rolling
> it up and climbing away, with vapour vortexs streaming off the wing
> tips. Great visually, and great flying. Made before CGI, too.
>
>

It was an A-1 Skyraider I beleive. Korean vintage attack aircraft that
came into it's own in SE Asia. Basically from I've been told it was a
flying tank. Low, slow and could take a beating!

[Chris Ehlbeck]

Steve Firth wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:09:27 +0800, news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
>
>
>>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>>
>>1. Top Gun.
>>2. Angels One 5.
>>3. Memphis Bell.
>>4. Air America.
>>5. The Blue Max.
>>
>>Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
>>non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.
>
>
> 1. Catch 22
> 2. The Dam Busters
> 3. Battle of Britain
> 4. The Right Stuff
> 5. The Sound Barrier (1952) Not any of the later films with the same name.
> 6. The Spirit of St. Louis
>
> Sorry, couldn't get it down to five.

Still trying to make my list make 5 but was wondering how long it would
take for The Right Stuff to show up.

[Matt Barrow]

"Chris Ehlbeck" > wrote in message
...
>
> Still trying to make my list make 5 but was wondering how long it would
> take for The Right Stuff to show up.

Or "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo"

[Paul Catley]

"Ian Donaldson" > wrote in message
...
> Try this list!
>
> http://www.coastcomp.com/av/fltline2/avmovie.htm

I don't know how many other movies are missing from that list, but these are:

1. Pearl Harbor (yeah I know, but it doesn't say *good* aviation movies)
2. Dark Blue World
3. Thirteen Days (not an aviation movie, but some rather nice CGI'd scenes of a
U-2 spy plane and a low level surveillance run by a couple of F-8s)

--
Paul

[Mike Lindsay]

In article
s.rr.com>, john smith > writes
>No one mentioned
>
>"A Guy Named Joe"
>Spencer Tracy, Clark Gable
>
>"Flying Tigers"
>John Wayne
>
>"Operation Crossbow"

Or Red Flyer (1950s film) about a Russian test pilot
The first of the Few (1940s)
Malta Story, about a Spit 9 photo-recce pilot.
--
Mike Lindsay

[Marty]

"news.ozemail.com.au" > wrote in message
...
>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>
> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be
> interesting non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying
> action.
>
>

In no particular order,

The Blue Max (great tale of honor/dishonor)

Catch 22 (Best opener of all movies)

Tora!Tora!Tora! (Took my first date to it in 7th grade)

Always (I could belive in angels more than a guy not giving Marg
Helgenberger a second look, Goodman was great)

Tuskegee Airmen (shows how "bleached" my history books were)

Marty

[John Ewing]

"Alpha_77DX" > wrote in message
u...
>
> "news.ozemail.com.au" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>>
>> 1. Top Gun.
>> 2. Angels One 5.
>> 3. Memphis Bell.
>> 4. Air America.
>> 5. The Blue Max.
>>
>> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be
>> interesting non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying
>> action.
>>
>
> I like warbirds :)
>
> 1. Battle of Britain. Lots of Spitfires and Hurricanes.
> 2. 12 O'clock High. B17's doing what B17's do.
> 3. The Dam Busters. Real Lancasters, Barnes Wallis, a true story, say no
> more!
> 4. 633 Squadron. Lots of Mosquito action, plus John Mellion. Trivia from
> IMDB- Cliff Robertson, an accomplished pilot, wanted to buy one of the
> Mosquitoes after filming had finished, as he was so impressed with the
> type. He was not permitted to do this but he later bought a Spitfire Mk IX
> which he owned until the late 1990s.
> 5. Con Air. Just a cool movie set on an aeroplane.

I remember seeing another Cliff Robertson movie titled "The Pilot".
He acted the part of a respected and experienced airline pilot who was a sly
grogger.
Frank Converse was his young co-pilot who eventually refused to fly with
him.
Might be an interesting one to see again.

Cliff, if I remember correctly, was given the cold shoulder by Hollywood for
taking a stand against the establishment, and consequently was blacklisted.
Pity - always thought he was a convincing actor.

John

[qanset]

news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
> I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
> volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>
> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
> non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.
>
>
>

Flying Leathernecks: Starring John Wayne.

Real footage from BAttle of Guadalcanal using Grumman Hellcats, Avenger
and PBY Catalina. Spectacular attacks on Japanese Convoy using missiles
and Torpedo's

[budgie]

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:05:57 -0500, "Marty" > wrote:


>In no particular order,
>
>The Blue Max (great tale of honor/dishonor)
>
>Catch 22 (Best opener of all movies)
>
>Tora!Tora!Tora! (Took my first date to it in 7th grade)
>
>Always (I could belive in angels more than a guy not giving Marg
>Helgenberger a second look, Goodman was great)

She's still worth more than a second look. First caught my eye in China Beach.
Whoops, getting seriously O/T here :-(

>Tuskegee Airmen (shows how "bleached" my history books were)
>
>Marty
>

[Flyingmonk]

My top 5:
1. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
2. Flight of the Phoenix [old version].
3. Memphis Bell.
4. Air America.
5. Apocalypse Now .

The Monk

[[email protected]]

Sla#s wrote:
>
>
> Bird of prey. (I love Lamas!)
> ...
>
> And for the best ever aerial shot: Where the Lama breaks through the roof in
> the opening secquence of Bird of Prey 2.
> ...

http://www.imdb.com lists several movies with the title _Bird of Prey_
and one _Bird of Prey 2_, but none with Lamas.

I (barely) remember _Birds of Prey_ with David Janssen from 1973.

In particular there is a scene in which he is riding on the wing of
a biplane while it banks over and dives into a canyon. Fantastic!

--

FF

[Dave Eadsforth]

In article . com>,
Flyingmonk > writes
>My top 5:
>1. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

A truly scrumptious movie...

>2. Flight of the Phoenix [old version].
>3. Memphis Bell.
>4. Air America.
>5. Apocalypse Now .
>
>The Monk
>
Cheers,

Dave

--
Dave Eadsforth

[david]

Actually you are right, I'd forgotten DBW. That's a superb film and very
much undersold which was a pity. But I suspect the Americans didn't know
anywhere mentioned in the film.

I also really enjoyed Fly Away Home, the one about the Geese and
microloghts. Good one that.

David


"Paul Catley" > wrote in message
...
> "Ian Donaldson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Try this list!
>>
>> http://www.coastcomp.com/av/fltline2/avmovie.htm
>
> I don't know how many other movies are missing from that list, but these
> are:
>
> 1. Pearl Harbor (yeah I know, but it doesn't say *good* aviation movies)
> 2. Dark Blue World
> 3. Thirteen Days (not an aviation movie, but some rather nice CGI'd scenes
> of a U-2 spy plane and a low level surveillance run by a couple of F-8s)
>
> --
> Paul
>
>

[Vic7]

Perhaps I missed it, but I don't recall seeing Fate is the Hunter on this list.

V7

[Paul Catley]

"Paul Catley" > wrote in message
...
>
> It's been a long time since you've seen Flight of the Phoenix too - it isn't
> in black & white :)
>
> 1. The Dambusters
> 2. Tora! Tora! Tora!
> 3. Battle of Britain
> 4. Dark Blue World
> 5. Apocalypse Now (for the helicopter scenes)
>
> Actually, I wish I'd voted for The Right Stuff and Flight of the Phoenix, but
> I compiled my list without reference to the rest of the thread :) Must admit
> that I like Strategic Air Command too, despite it being a dreadful flag-waving
> exercise.

Can I change my vote? The Blue Max was on telly this afternoon. I hadn't seen
it before. The flying sequences are marvellous, particularly the "under the
bridge" scene, in what were no doubt very valuable Fokker Triplane replicas :)

--
Paul

[pittss1c]

It isn't a flying movie, but always crack up when I see the flying
scenes in Fandango.




news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
> I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
> volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>
> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
> non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.
>
>
>

[[email protected]]

Twelve O'Clock High
The High and the Mighty
Rise(Return) of the Phoenix (someone will know the real name)
Catch 22
Young Eagles

In rec.aviation.piloting news.ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
> volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:

> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.

> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
> non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.





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What about Conair lol

"Paul Catley" > wrote in message ...
> "Paul Catley" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > It's been a long time since you've seen Flight of the Phoenix too - it isn't
> > in black & white :)
> >
> > 1. The Dambusters
> > 2. Tora! Tora! Tora!
> > 3. Battle of Britain
> > 4. Dark Blue World
> > 5. Apocalypse Now (for the helicopter scenes)
> >
> > Actually, I wish I'd voted for The Right Stuff and Flight of the Phoenix, but
> > I compiled my list without reference to the rest of the thread :) Must admit
> > that I like Strategic Air Command too, despite it being a dreadful flag-waving
> > exercise.
>
> Can I change my vote? The Blue Max was on telly this afternoon. I hadn't seen
> it before. The flying sequences are marvellous, particularly the "under the
> bridge" scene, in what were no doubt very valuable Fokker Triplane replicas :)
>
> --
> Paul
>
>

[Steve S]

"Paul Catley" > wrote in message
...
> "Paul Catley" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> It's been a long time since you've seen Flight of the Phoenix too - it
>> isn't in black & white :)
>>
>> 1. The Dambusters
>> 2. Tora! Tora! Tora!
>> 3. Battle of Britain
>> 4. Dark Blue World
>> 5. Apocalypse Now (for the helicopter scenes)
>>
>> Actually, I wish I'd voted for The Right Stuff and Flight of the Phoenix,
>> but I compiled my list without reference to the rest of the thread :)
>> Must admit that I like Strategic Air Command too, despite it being a
>> dreadful flag-waving exercise.
>
> Can I change my vote? The Blue Max was on telly this afternoon. I hadn't
> seen it before. The flying sequences are marvellous, particularly the
> "under the bridge" scene, in what were no doubt very valuable Fokker
> Triplane replicas :)
>

I did a gliding course at Lasham back when Derek Piggott was CFI. On a wet
afternoon with no flying he got the video out and showed us how he did it.
Look carefully for poles stuck in the river bed. He also regaled us with
stories from "Those Magnificent Men..." etc., etc. What a guy!

Steve S

[Jim Hawkins]

"news.ozemail.com.au" > wrote in message
...
>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>
> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be
> interesting non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying
> action.
>
>

Are there no good German ones ?
If they could make a superb submarine epic like 'Das Boot' they must have
had the potential to make some good aviation stuff.

Jim Hawkins

[Roy Smith]

Marty > wrote:
>Tuskegee Airmen (shows how "bleached" my history books were)

I'm glad somebody mentioned this. Perhaps not as much great footage
as some of the others, but a story that's worth being told.

[Steve Firth]

On Tue, 2 May 2006 16:44:03 +0000 (UTC), Roy Smith wrote:

> Marty > wrote:
>>Tuskegee Airmen (shows how "bleached" my history books were)
>
> I'm glad somebody mentioned this. Perhaps not as much great footage
> as some of the others, but a story that's worth being told.

There was a recent BBC documentary about these Airmen. Incredible men, all
of them. Determined not just to be capable, but to be the absolute best.
Their war record speaks for them, it's a shame that the society they lived
in at the time was so racist that the mainstream press and the armed forces
could not bring themselves to honour these men as they deserved.

It has resonances with the story of Carl Brashear. The Navy didn't want to
see a black diver succeed. The film history of his life was overplayed and
somewhat distorted, but the "oral history" that Brashear himself recorded
shows the essential truth of what it was like to be black, talented and in
the armed forces during WWII and the subsequent cold war.

[John Ewing]

"Jim Hawkins" > wrote in message
...
>
> "news.ozemail.com.au" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>>
>> 1. Top Gun.
>> 2. Angels One 5.
>> 3. Memphis Bell.
>> 4. Air America.
>> 5. The Blue Max.
>>
>> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be
>> interesting non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying
>> action.
>>
>>
>
> Are there no good German ones ?
> If they could make a superb submarine epic like 'Das Boot' they must have
> had the potential to make some good aviation stuff.
>
> Jim Hawkins

Good point Jim. I am sure the German film makers of the era had the
capability and talent. Just that during the war any film had to be
propaganda and afterwards there was neither the money nor the inclination.
Now would be a good time but props (aircraft) are very scarce, so model
aircraft and CGI may be the only option.

John

[Bernd Felsche]

"Jim Hawkins" > writes:
>"news.ozemail.com.au" > wrote:

>>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>>
>> 1. Top Gun.
>> 2. Angels One 5.
>> 3. Memphis Bell.
>> 4. Air America.
>> 5. The Blue Max.
>>
>> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be
>> interesting non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying
>> action.

>Are there no good German ones ?
>If they could make a superb submarine epic like 'Das Boot' they must have
>had the potential to make some good aviation stuff.

You mean like "Quax, der Bruchpilot"? :-)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034076/

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[Ric]

I don't know of any movies, I do own a book though titled Heaven Next Stop,
A Luftwaffe Fighter Pilot at War by Gunther Bloemertz. A personal story of
one of the Abbeville Boys who flew FW 190s.

One of those books that you start to read after dinner and before you know
it it is the early hours of the morning.

Well worth the read, amazing stories.

Ric

"Jim Hawkins" > wrote in message
...
>
> "news.ozemail.com.au" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>>
>> 1. Top Gun.
>> 2. Angels One 5.
>> 3. Memphis Bell.
>> 4. Air America.
>> 5. The Blue Max.
>>
>> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be
>> interesting non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying
>> action.
>>
>>
>
> Are there no good German ones ?
> If they could make a superb submarine epic like 'Das Boot' they must have
> had the potential to make some good aviation stuff.
>
> Jim Hawkins
>
>
>

[Sla#s]

wrote:
> Sla#s wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bird of prey. (I love Lamas!)
>> ...
>>
>> And for the best ever aerial shot: Where the Lama breaks through the
>> roof in the opening secquence of Bird of Prey 2.
>> ...
>
> http://www.imdb.com lists several movies with the title _Bird of Prey_
> and one _Bird of Prey 2_, but none with Lamas.
>
> I (barely) remember _Birds of Prey_ with David Janssen from 1973.
>
> In particular there is a scene in which he is riding on the wing of
> a biplane while it banks over and dives into a canyon. Fantastic!

In BOP 1 the Lama was N13583 and the 500 N9103F
The Lama crashed and was destroyed the next year with water in the fuel
causing a flame out!

Slatts

[[email protected]]

Sla#s wrote:
> wrote:
> > Sla#s wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Bird of prey. (I love Lamas!)
> >> ...
> >>
> >> And for the best ever aerial shot: Where the Lama breaks through the
> >> roof in the opening secquence of Bird of Prey 2.
> >> ...
> >
> > http://www.imdb.com lists several movies with the title _Bird of Prey_
> > and one _Bird of Prey 2_, but none with Lamas.
> >
> > I (barely) remember _Birds of Prey_ with David Janssen from 1973.
> >
> > In particular there is a scene in which he is riding on the wing of
> > a biplane while it banks over and dives into a canyon. Fantastic!
>
> In BOP 1 the Lama was N13583 and the 500 N9103F
> The Lama crashed and was destroyed the next year with water in the fuel
> causing a flame out!
>

LOL! I thought you meant Lorenzo Lamas...

--

FF

[Flyingmonk]

Dave Eadsforth wrote:
> In article . com>,
> Flyingmonk > writes
> >My top 5:
> >1. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
>
> A truly scrumptious movie...
>
> >2. Flight of the Phoenix [old version].
> >3. Memphis Bell.
> >4. Air America.
> >5. Apocalypse Now .
> >
> >The Monk
> >
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> --

Yeah, I really lighted that movie and D Van Dyke too.

The Monk
> Dave Eadsforth

[pietro]

Bernd Felsche schrieb:


> You mean like "Quax, der Bruchpilot"? :-)
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034076/
>

I've seen it a couple of times. Not a bad "Zeitdokument". My
favourit scene is when the instructor dismantles his joystick and
throws it overboard, and Rühmann promtly does the same with his.
P.

[Paul Catley]

"Steve S" > wrote in message
. uk...
>

> I did a gliding course at Lasham back when Derek Piggott was CFI. On a wet
> afternoon with no flying he got the video out and showed us how he did it.
> Look carefully for poles stuck in the river bed.

Oh *now* you tell me! ;) I didn't record it. C'mon, spill the beans: what were
the poles for?


> He also regaled us with stories from "Those Magnificent Men..." etc., etc.
> What a guy!

I wish they still used real aircraft in films today.

--
Paul

[David CL Francis]

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 at 08:33:10 in message
>, JW²
> wrote:
>Who remembers "No Highway"? Jimmy Stewart, I seem to remember. Anything
>of Nevil Shute's had to be good, in my eyes!
>
>JW²

I remember it well! Nobody has yet mentioned Howard Hugh's Hell's
Angels yet have they? That had some amazing dog fight scenes and
enormous effort went into it - all real aircraft and made in 1930.
--
David CL Francis

[Montblack]

("David CL Francis" wrote)
> I remember it well! Nobody has yet mentioned Howard Hugh's Hell's Angels
> yet have they? That had some amazing dog fight scenes and enormous effort
> went into it - all real aircraft and made in 1930.


I haven't seen it, except for the making of Hell's Angels scenes in The
Aviator (2004)


Montblack

[Tom Conner]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("David CL Francis" wrote)
> > I remember it well! Nobody has yet mentioned Howard Hugh's
> > Hell's Angels yet have they? That had some amazing dog fight
> > scenes and enormous effort went into it - all real aircraft
> > and made in 1930.
>
>
> I haven't seen it, except for the making of Hell's Angels scenes
> in The Aviator (2004)
>

I mentioned it in another thread. I rented it after watching The Aviator,
and it is a good movie. The DVD restoration has great quality, and it even
has the 10 minute intermission on the DVD. I guess people couldn't sit
still for 2 hours back then.

[Sylvain]

Montblack wrote:

>> I remember it well! Nobody has yet mentioned Howard Hugh's Hell's Angels
>> yet have they? That had some amazing dog fight scenes and enormous effort
>> went into it - all real aircraft and made in 1930.
>
>
> I haven't seen it, except for the making of Hell's Angels scenes in The
> Aviator (2004)

it is available in DVD,

--Sylvain

[Morgans]

"Tom Conner" > wrote

> I mentioned it in another thread. I rented it after watching The Aviator,
> and it is a good movie. The DVD restoration has great quality, and it
> even
> has the 10 minute intermission on the DVD. I guess people couldn't sit
> still for 2 hours back then.

They had to rewind and switch reels, back then. They did not have the
"platter reel" system, then.
--
Jim in NC

[Montblack]

("Morgans" wrote)
>> The DVD restoration has great quality, and it even has the 10 minute
>> intermission on the DVD. I guess people couldn't sit still for 2 hours
>> back then.

> They had to rewind and switch reels, back then. They did not have the
> "platter reel" system, then.


The boost, during intermission, in the concession stand take was a nice
bonus.

<http://www.filmack.com/qttrailers/newLArgeFilmack/4-Lobby_Darker.mov>
"Let's Go Out To The Lobby, Let's Go Out To The Lobby, Let's Go Out To The
Lobby and Get Ourselves A Treat!"


Montblack :-)

[Richard Brooks]

news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
> I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
> volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>
> 1. Top Gun.
> 2. Angels One 5.
> 3. Memphis Bell.
> 4. Air America.
> 5. The Blue Max.
>
> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
> non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.

1. Dambusters.
2. Battle of Britain. Try watching the DVD with the original Walton
full score and it's just not the same!

3. Strategic Air Command. Just for the B-36s and B-47s and having lived
next to RAF Brize Norton, getting past the guards and playing there as a
kid in SAC days. I love the honest scripting about the crewman whining
about being called up and preferring to run his own business.

4. 1000 Plane Raid. Highlights are the B-17 buzzing the airfield, no
CGI in that clip and a wingtip not far from the runway. Funny bit is
the Spitfire pilot in the dodgy bubble canopy. Memories of watching it
in Brize base's cinema and a B-47 revving up its engines just outside
the place so everyone leaning forward to listen better!

5. For Those In Peril - and other smaller films with various aircraft
clips in, such as the Walrus in this film.


Richard.

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[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
Richard Brooks > wrote:

> news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
> > I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
> > volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
> >
> > 1. Top Gun.
> > 2. Angels One 5.
> > 3. Memphis Bell.
> > 4. Air America.
> > 5. The Blue Max.
> >
> > Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
> > non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.
>
> 1. Dambusters.
> 2. Battle of Britain. Try watching the DVD with the original Walton
> full score and it's just not the same!
>
> 3. Strategic Air Command. Just for the B-36s and B-47s and having lived
> next to RAF Brize Norton, getting past the guards and playing there as a
> kid in SAC days. I love the honest scripting about the crewman whining
> about being called up and preferring to run his own business.
>
> 4. 1000 Plane Raid. Highlights are the B-17 buzzing the airfield, no
> CGI in that clip and a wingtip not far from the runway. Funny bit is
> the Spitfire pilot in the dodgy bubble canopy. Memories of watching it
> in Brize base's cinema and a B-47 revving up its engines just outside
> the place so everyone leaning forward to listen better!
>
> 5. For Those In Peril - and other smaller films with various aircraft
> clips in, such as the Walrus in this film.
>
>
> Richard.

The above, plus:

12 O'Clock High

Tora! Tora! Tora!

Wings

The Great Waldo Pepper

[Montblack]

("GB" wrote)
>> <http://www.filmack.com/qttrailers/newLArgeFilmack/4-Lobby_Darker.mov>
>> "Let's Go Out To The Lobby, Let's Go Out To The Lobby, Let's Go Out To
>> The Lobby and Get Ourselves A Treat!"

> "Oh Saa-aaan-deee, kan't you see, I'm a misery..."


Hey, it bought him a jet! :-)

<http://www.destinationhollywood.com/movies/grease/quickclip_03.shtml>
"Oh Saa-aaan-deee, kan't you see, I'm [in] misery..."

<http://www.destinationhollywood.com/movies/grease/quickclip_02.shtml>
ONJ. Mmm.....!!!!

<http://www.destinationhollywood.com/movies/grease/quickclip_10.shtml>
What the heck. More ONJ.
Until I saw the movie, I thought it was HER singing the entire song - I
didn't know it was a duet. Oops, sorry John.

JT's first plane was a 1946 Ercoupe. He owned it for 5 years.


Montblack
http://www.aviation-antiques.com/jon-bio.html
"He later sold the Ercoupe to a kid who had just moved to Los Angeles. The
kid was a low time pilot and would only buy the plane on the condition that
dad checked him out and gave him some lessons. The kid was John Travolta,
well before he became famous!"

http://home.flash.net/~dmprosvc/dave/west.htm
"I traded a nice '65 Mustang convertible for N-87112 in 1993. The Mustang
was in much better shape than the airplane. Restoration of the 'Coupe was
finished in 1996. Along the way, I learned through a title search that
N-87112 was previously owned by actor/dancer/pilot, John Travolta. He had
the plane for almost five years and it was his first. The Ercoupe is
mentioned in his biography entitled, "Travolta!". I was also able to obtain
several pictures of Mr. Travolta with the plane circa 1973. This is a sweet
airplane. It really is a delight to fly, especially here in Arizona with the
canopy down."

http://www.ercoupe.net/PhotoAlbum.html (N87112)
1946 Ercoupe Model 415C/D, serial no. 285, C-85, manufactured, January 17,
1946

"As a side, my Ercoupe was John Travolta's first airplane. He owned it for
almost five years. I have 10 pics of him with the plane back in the
early/mid 70's."

[Richard Brooks]

Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> In article >,
> Richard Brooks > wrote:
>
>
>>news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
>>
>>>I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone want to
>>>volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>>>
>>>1. Top Gun.
>>>2. Angels One 5.
>>>3. Memphis Bell.
>>>4. Air America.
>>>5. The Blue Max.
>>>
>>>Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be interesting
>>>non military movies or documentaries with realistic flying action.
>>
>>1. Dambusters.
>>2. Battle of Britain. Try watching the DVD with the original Walton
>>full score and it's just not the same!
>>
>>3. Strategic Air Command. Just for the B-36s and B-47s and having lived
>>next to RAF Brize Norton, getting past the guards and playing there as a
>>kid in SAC days. I love the honest scripting about the crewman whining
>>about being called up and preferring to run his own business.
>>
>>4. 1000 Plane Raid. Highlights are the B-17 buzzing the airfield, no
>>CGI in that clip and a wingtip not far from the runway. Funny bit is
>>the Spitfire pilot in the dodgy bubble canopy. Memories of watching it
>>in Brize base's cinema and a B-47 revving up its engines just outside
>>the place so everyone leaning forward to listen better!
>>
>>5. For Those In Peril - and other smaller films with various aircraft
>>clips in, such as the Walrus in this film.
>>
>>
>>Richard.
>
>
> The above, plus:
>
> 12 O'Clock High
>
> Tora! Tora! Tora!

I'd bought both of those on DVD because they are special and Tora! Tora!
Tora! amazed me because of the half-point screen blackout for me to go
to the foyer and buy stuff - in my own home.


> Wings

Wings I don't know but I will search that one out.
>
> The Great Waldo Pepper

For me that's on par with The Blue Max and damn, we've taken it over the
five mark! ;-)

There are loads that are special in one way but maybe not worth the DVD
effort.

There's the film where a B-17 crew try to make it back to mainland I
think, after having to evacuate Pearl Harbor and hopping from island to
island looking for spare parts.

The Way To The Stars, The one I've seen a few times with John Wayne
(Late 1930s) and some Navy flyers meeting with officers at a party and
one of their planes crash lands on the grounds. There are a few like
that usually with two guys who can't stand each other and some gal comes
along and makes up the triangle.

Old age kills the brain cells!


Richard.


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[Richard Brooks]

Richard Brooks wrote:
> Orval Fairbairn wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> Richard Brooks > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> news.ozemail.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want to stock up on some aviation themed videos. Would anyone
>>>> want to volunteer their top five aviation movies? Mine are:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Top Gun.
>>>> 2. Angels One 5.
>>>> 3. Memphis Bell.
>>>> 4. Air America.
>>>> 5. The Blue Max.
>>>>
>>>> Most aviation related movies have a war theme but there must be
>>>> interesting non military movies or documentaries with realistic
>>>> flying action.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Dambusters.
>>> 2. Battle of Britain. Try watching the DVD with the original Walton
>>> full score and it's just not the same!
>>>
>>> 3. Strategic Air Command. Just for the B-36s and B-47s and having
>>> lived next to RAF Brize Norton, getting past the guards and playing
>>> there as a kid in SAC days. I love the honest scripting about the
>>> crewman whining about being called up and preferring to run his own
>>> business.
>>>
>>> 4. 1000 Plane Raid. Highlights are the B-17 buzzing the airfield, no
>>> CGI in that clip and a wingtip not far from the runway. Funny bit is
>>> the Spitfire pilot in the dodgy bubble canopy. Memories of watching
>>> it in Brize base's cinema and a B-47 revving up its engines just
>>> outside the place so everyone leaning forward to listen better!
>>>
>>> 5. For Those In Peril - and other smaller films with various
>>> aircraft clips in, such as the Walrus in this film.
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard.
>>
>>
>>
>> The above, plus:
>>
>> 12 O'Clock High
>>
>> Tora! Tora! Tora!
>
>
> I'd bought both of those on DVD because they are special and Tora! Tora!
> Tora! amazed me because of the half-point screen blackout for me to go
> to the foyer and buy stuff - in my own home.
>
>
>> Wings
>
>
> Wings I don't know but I will search that one out.
>
>>
>> The Great Waldo Pepper
>
>
> For me that's on par with The Blue Max and damn, we've taken it over the
> five mark! ;-)
>
> There are loads that are special in one way but maybe not worth the DVD
> effort.
>
> There's the film where a B-17 crew try to make it back to mainland I
> think, after having to evacuate Pearl Harbor and hopping from island to
> island looking for spare parts.
>
> The Way To The Stars, The one I've seen a few times with John Wayne
> (Late 1930s) and some Navy flyers meeting with officers at a party and
> one of their planes crash lands on the grounds. There are a few like
> that usually with two guys who can't stand each other and some gal comes
> along and makes up the triangle.
>
> Old age kills the brain cells!

[With apologies]


OHMYGOD - High Flight! How could I forget that old gem of RAF Cranwell
and a great excuse to show long air-to-air aerobatic shots with Vampire
and Hunter display teams.

>
>
> Richard.
>
>


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[Montblack]

("Richard Brooks" wrote)
> Wings I don't know but I will search that one out.


[Longish ...but fun movie flying stuff about Wings (1927)]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wings_(movie)
"The film has been deemed "culturally significant" by the United States
Library of Congress and selected for preservation in the National Film
Registry."

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0018578/
Wings (1927) Silent film
"Two young men, one rich, one middle class, who are in love with the same
woman, become fighter pilots in World War I." (Duh! That's always the plot!
<g>)

[Trivia link]
In contrast to co-star Richard Arlen, 'Charles 'Buddy' Rogers did not know
how to fly a plane when production began, but he learned how to do so by the
end of it. In the close-up scenes where Jack and David (and other
characters) are flying, the actors are actually working the planes
themselves. To shoot these scenes, the actors had to get the plane up in the
air, keep it up, turn on the (motorized) camera and land the plane--and act
at the same time.

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9076505
"Wings" Director - William Wellman's other films.

http://www.filmlinc.com/fcm/online/wellmanextra.htm
Fun interview with the director, William Wellman. [snips]

"Wellman died on December 9, 1975, of Ieukaemia, at his home in Brentwood
where this interview was conducted. He was seventy-nine and remained vital
and feisty to the end. Respecting his wishes, Wellman was cremated and his
ashes scattered from an airplane into the clouds and sky that he always
loved."

[After you got booted out of high school, did you go directly into the
Lafayette Flying Corps?]

No, I tried various things. I tried being a candy salesman, but I never sold
a pound of candy. I tried being a cotton belting salesman but I never sold a
foot of that. Then my brother, who was in the wool business, got me into
Coffin and Gilmour, a Philadelphia wool firm, as a salesman. I never sold
any of whatever the hell you sell wool by, pound or whatever. So then I went
to work in a lumberyard, and I was a hell of a success.

I started in Waltham, Massachusetts, in the middle of the winter with great
big freight cars full of South Carolina flooring. I started out as a lumper
and then a piler and I did those things so well that they made me a
truckdriver. Then I lost control of the truck one day in Roxbury,
Massachusetts and drove through a barn. They fired me, so I decided to get
the hell out of there. I'd always wanted to learn to fly, so one of my
father's brothers, Francis Wellman, got me in the Flying Corps.

[Just because you wanted to learn to fly?]

That simple.

[Didn't the prospect of getting killed enter your mind?]

I was nineteen years old, a crazy *******. It never occurred to me until I
got into it. When I got out there, I thought to myself, "What the hell are
you doing here?" Then I wished I'd never gotten into it.

[How close did you come to getting killed?]

I had a crack-up caused by the most useless things in the entire war:
anti-aircraft guns. I and an Englishman are the only ones I know of who got
shot down by those things. It didn't hurt me, but it blew my tail off so I
had no control over the thing at all. Greatest goddamm acrobatics you ever
saw in your life.

[The courage it must have taken to go up in those flimsy crates . . .]

It wasn't courage: we all wanted to learn to fly and that was the quickest
way. We only had four instruments, none of which worked, and no parachutes.
It was wonderful!

[Are you scared of dying?]

I hate to think about it. Certainly I am. I don't want to die now and I
didn't want to then. I just didn't think about it as much then as I do now.
I'm funny that way; I'm an Episcopalian, supposedly. I'm supposed to think
there's a God. I say my prayers every night because my mother always taught
me to.

[Nowadays, lots of people look on World War One with nostalgia, as the last
of the "noble" wars.]

Balls. In that movie The Blue Max and others, these guys would come back to
these beautifully dressed dames and champagne. Goddamn! At Lunéville, where
I was stationed, there was one fairly good-looking girl and her mother. One.
All the menfolk had been killed and she and her mother took in laundry. She
wore wooden shoes, and your reputation was based on whether you were a no
shoe man, a one shoe man or a two shoe man. If, during sex, you could shake
both her shoes off, you were a hell of a lay.

[She took everybody on?]

Not everybody. She confined it mostly to flyers. But, hell, there was no one
else.

[How many pilots were left after the war?]

Out of 222, eighty-seven were killed. I flew with Tom Hitchcock, the great
polo player. Tom and I were in the "Black Cat" group.

[What happened after the war?]

During the last six months of the war, I joined the American Air Corps
because I was broke and they were trying to get us in. They made me an
officer and sent me down to Rockwell Field in San Diego. I taught combat. I
used to fly up and land on Doug Fairbanks' polo fields and spend the weekend
with him; he had met me when I was playing hockey up in Boston and he was
playing at the Colonial Theatre in a thing called "Hawthorne of the U.S.A."
He used to come up and watch us play at the Boston Arena on Sundays. For
some reason or another, he liked me and asked me to come backstage at the
Colonial; that was the start of a very wonderful relationship.

So one day he told me that, after the war was over, he'd have a job for me.
So when it was all over, he made me an actor. I was the juvenile in
"Knickerbocker Buckaroo" and then I played a sub-lieutenant in "Evangeline."

Eventually, I had guts enough to go look at myself and it made me so sick .
.. . I ran out of the theatre, went to Doug and said, "I don't mean any
disrespect, but I'm no actor." Jesus, the guys from the Lafayette Flying
Corps that were still alive were sending me the most insulting letters!

So Doug said, "What do you want to be?" So I pointed to Albert Parker, who
was the director of occasion, and said, "Well, what does he make?" So Doug
told me and I said "That's what I want to be." It was purely financial. So I
finally got a job as a messenger boy, as an assistant cutter, an assistant
property man, a property man, an assistant director, second unit director,
and eventually I became a director.


Montblack

[Richard Brooks]

Montblack wrote:
> ("Richard Brooks" wrote)
>
>> Wings I don't know but I will search that one out.
>
>
>
> [Longish ...but fun movie flying stuff about Wings (1927)]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wings_(movie)
> "The film has been deemed "culturally significant" by the United States
> Library of Congress and selected for preservation in the National Film
> Registry."
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0018578/
> Wings (1927) Silent film
> "Two young men, one rich, one middle class, who are in love with the
> same woman, become fighter pilots in World War I." (Duh! That's always
> the plot! <g>)
>
> [Trivia link]
> In contrast to co-star Richard Arlen, 'Charles 'Buddy' Rogers did not
> know how to fly a plane when production began, but he learned how to do
> so by the end of it. In the close-up scenes where Jack and David (and
> other characters) are flying, the actors are actually working the planes
> themselves. To shoot these scenes, the actors had to get the plane up in
> the air, keep it up, turn on the (motorized) camera and land the
> plane--and act at the same time.
>
> http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9076505
> "Wings" Director - William Wellman's other films.
>
> http://www.filmlinc.com/fcm/online/wellmanextra.htm
> Fun interview with the director, William Wellman. [snips]
[Snipped]

Fantastic! Thanks for that, Montblack!

Thank God no-one listed that awful spoof (made for afternoon tv) WWII
film with women flying helicopters into secret locations in Europe,
which looked quite like the set of MASH. Okay, the women slinking
around in lingerie early in the film softens( or is it hardens?) the
blow but it's no excuse.

In my mind, The Tuskegee Airmen didn't deserve to end up as a 'made for
afternoon tv' film as it was a great film. We in the UK got a version
that had been put through NTSC then to PAL to make everything washed out
and reddish-brown. Otherwise a great film.

Richard.


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[Dave Stadt]

"Richard Brooks" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>
> Wings I don't know but I will search that one out.

It is the mother of all aviation movies and the winner of the first Academy
Award back when the award meant something

[Richard Brooks]

Dave Stadt wrote:
> "Richard Brooks" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>
>>Wings I don't know but I will search that one out.
>
>
> It is the mother of all aviation movies and the winner of the first Academy
> Award back when the award meant something
>

Thanks Dave!

I think you can now get an Academy Award from the petrol stations for
ten gallons of juice and only if you are a Scientologist, pregnant and
promise not to scream!


Richard.




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> I think you can now get an Academy Award from the petrol stations for ten
> gallons of juice and only if you are a Scientologist, pregnant and promise
> not to scream!


"Martin Scorsese, zero, Three 6 Mafia, one."


Montblack
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