Hatz / Marquart Charger

[david]

I'm thinking of building one of these in the UK (don't laugh, they still let
us do that sort of thing so long as we promise no to hurt ourselves.)

Has anyone got any relative expriences of the two?

I'm after a plane that will go somewhere (so IAS c100kts as a minimum) with
two adults (so a payload of c 350lb PLUS fuel), has plenty of room in the
main cockpit (for a 6 foot 4 male (me) and a chart and a sandwich and not
throttle me.) Oh it must look nice too.

The Hatz Classic and the Charger are the two I'm deciding between.

These are my preliminary thougts so questions a plenty. I knowb there are
at least one of each in the uk, but not sure where.

The other one i'd thought of was a Stolp Starduster too, but it looks a bit
fussy and skinny. I like the "'30s look" of the other two.

David

[jls]

"david" > wrote in message
...
> I'm thinking of building one of these in the UK (don't laugh, they still
let
> us do that sort of thing so long as we promise no to hurt ourselves.)
>
> Has anyone got any relative expriences of the two?
>
> I'm after a plane that will go somewhere (so IAS c100kts as a minimum)
with
> two adults (so a payload of c 350lb PLUS fuel), has plenty of room in the
> main cockpit (for a 6 foot 4 male (me) and a chart and a sandwich and not
> throttle me.) Oh it must look nice too.
>
> The Hatz Classic and the Charger are the two I'm deciding between.
>
> These are my preliminary thougts so questions a plenty. I knowb there are
> at least one of each in the uk, but not sure where.
>
> The other one i'd thought of was a Stolp Starduster too, but it looks a
bit
> fussy and skinny. I like the "'30s look" of the other two.
>
> David
>
The Hatz is smaller. It was originally designed around an O-200. There is
a beautiful Marquart Charger here, and it can easily handle big men. Since
you're tall and need to haul a load, go for the Charger and an O-360
Lycoming, or even an O-540. You won't be sorry.

Not taking anything away from the Hatz. It is a great and beloved design,
but you need a Charger.

[david]

Thanks for that. That was the sort of info I needed. Many thanks.,
PS...where is "here"?

Regards,

David


" jls" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "david" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm thinking of building one of these in the UK (don't laugh, they still
> let
>> us do that sort of thing so long as we promise no to hurt ourselves.)
>>
>> Has anyone got any relative expriences of the two?
>>
>> I'm after a plane that will go somewhere (so IAS c100kts as a minimum)
> with
>> two adults (so a payload of c 350lb PLUS fuel), has plenty of room in the
>> main cockpit (for a 6 foot 4 male (me) and a chart and a sandwich and
>> not
>> throttle me.) Oh it must look nice too.
>>
>> The Hatz Classic and the Charger are the two I'm deciding between.
>>
>> These are my preliminary thougts so questions a plenty. I knowb there
>> are
>> at least one of each in the uk, but not sure where.
>>
>> The other one i'd thought of was a Stolp Starduster too, but it looks a
> bit
>> fussy and skinny. I like the "'30s look" of the other two.
>>
>> David
>>
> The Hatz is smaller. It was originally designed around an O-200. There
> is
> a beautiful Marquart Charger here, and it can easily handle big men.
> Since
> you're tall and need to haul a load, go for the Charger and an O-360
> Lycoming, or even an O-540. You won't be sorry.
>
> Not taking anything away from the Hatz. It is a great and beloved design,
> but you need a Charger.
>
>

[jls]

"david" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for that. That was the sort of info I needed. Many thanks.,
> PS...where is "here"?

Western North Carolina. And there are two or three in the Atlanta area.

The lines of the Charger are unforgettable. You will love those swept wings
reminiscent of the Tiger Moth and Jungmeister.
>
> Regards,
>
> David
>
>
> " jls" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >
> > "david" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I'm thinking of building one of these in the UK (don't laugh, they
still
> > let
> >> us do that sort of thing so long as we promise no to hurt ourselves.)
> >>
> >> Has anyone got any relative expriences of the two?
> >>
> >> I'm after a plane that will go somewhere (so IAS c100kts as a minimum)
> > with
> >> two adults (so a payload of c 350lb PLUS fuel), has plenty of room in
the
> >> main cockpit (for a 6 foot 4 male (me) and a chart and a sandwich and
> >> not
> >> throttle me.) Oh it must look nice too.
> >>
> >> The Hatz Classic and the Charger are the two I'm deciding between.
> >>
> >> These are my preliminary thougts so questions a plenty. I knowb there
> >> are
> >> at least one of each in the uk, but not sure where.
> >>
> >> The other one i'd thought of was a Stolp Starduster too, but it looks a
> > bit
> >> fussy and skinny. I like the "'30s look" of the other two.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> > The Hatz is smaller. It was originally designed around an O-200. There
> > is
> > a beautiful Marquart Charger here, and it can easily handle big men.
> > Since
> > you're tall and need to haul a load, go for the Charger and an O-360
> > Lycoming, or even an O-540. You won't be sorry.
> >
> > Not taking anything away from the Hatz. It is a great and beloved
design,
> > but you need a Charger.
> >
> >
>
>

[Richard Lamb]

jls wrote:
>
> "david" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks for that. That was the sort of info I needed. Many thanks.,
> > PS...where is "here"?
>
> Western North Carolina. And there are two or three in the Atlanta area.
>
> The lines of the Charger are unforgettable. You will love those swept wings
> reminiscent of the Tiger Moth and Jungmeister.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > David
> >


And the swept top wing makes access to the front hole a LOT easier.
That is one thing the Hatz is a little short on...

Only way I can get in is to get backwards, and slide down the back
windshield on my belly. Which get's me in, but I'm facing the wrong
way and "sitting" on the panel...

But the cockpit, once in, is quite roomy and easy to squirm around
right side up.


I'm 6'3 and 195.

Richard

[david]

Hmm, wouldn't want to have to egress a Hatz in a hurry then!

I'll go for a Charger I think.

David
"Richard Lamb" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> jls wrote:
>>
>> "david" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Thanks for that. That was the sort of info I needed. Many thanks.,
>> > PS...where is "here"?
>>
>> Western North Carolina. And there are two or three in the Atlanta area.
>>
>> The lines of the Charger are unforgettable. You will love those swept
>> wings
>> reminiscent of the Tiger Moth and Jungmeister.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>
>
> And the swept top wing makes access to the front hole a LOT easier.
> That is one thing the Hatz is a little short on...
>
> Only way I can get in is to get backwards, and slide down the back
> windshield on my belly. Which get's me in, but I'm facing the wrong
> way and "sitting" on the panel...
>
> But the cockpit, once in, is quite roomy and easy to squirm around
> right side up.
>
>
> I'm 6'3 and 195.
>
> Richard

[Richard Riley]

The Charger is the clear winner on looks.

And Ed Marquart is a wonderfully nice guy. Still working out at
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