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The Real News wrote:
> Former Head of Star Wars Program, Dr Robert Bowman...
>
> 1. coined the term "Star Wars"
> 2. was Head of Star Wars in the Ford and Carter administrations
> 3. is a retired USAF Lt Col with 101 combat missions in Vietnam
> 4. is a former Interceptor Fighter Pilot and knows all the NORAD drills
> 5. has a PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering
> 6. is currently running for Congress
>
>
> mp3 Interview Link at Bottom of Article:
>
> Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/040406mainsuspect.htm
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> See also...
>
>
> 911 Blogger
> http://www.911Blogger.com
>
> Scholars for 9/11 Truth
> http://st911.org
>
> 200+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns Found in the Mainstream Media
> http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html
>
> 9/11 WTC 'Controlled Demolition Theory' Analysis Thread
> http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewtopic.php?t=4820
There appears to be a lot of "crackpot" theories being
floated in order make questioning of the Air Force
response on Sept. 11 2001 look like another "crackpot"
issue.
Given Norad's response on 9/11 it appears that a Soviet
bomber could have departed Cuba heading NE up the
coast in international airspace and made a quick left
turn towards any US coastal city unchallenged.
A $300+ billion DOD budget didn''t buy much "D".
JG
wrote:
[snip]
> Given Norad's response on 9/11 it appears that a Soviet
> bomber could have departed Cuba heading NE up the
> coast in international airspace and made a quick left
> turn towards any US coastal city unchallenged.
> A $300+ billion DOD budget didn''t buy much "D".
The presumption was that an attack would originate from
outside our borders. The first pilots in the air near DC
flew towards the Atlantic Ocean because it hadn't been
explained to them that the threat was coming from inside the
country.
wrote:
> The Real News wrote:
>> Former Head of Star Wars Program, Dr Robert Bowman...
>>
>> 1. coined the term "Star Wars"
>> 2. was Head of Star Wars in the Ford and Carter administrations
>> 3. is a retired USAF Lt Col with 101 combat missions in Vietnam
>> 4. is a former Interceptor Fighter Pilot and knows all the NORAD drills
>> 5. has a PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering
>> 6. is currently running for Congress
>>
>>
>> mp3 Interview Link at Bottom of Article:
>>
>> Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
>> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/040406mainsuspect.htm
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> See also...
>>
>>
>> 911 Blogger
>> http://www.911Blogger.com
>>
>> Scholars for 9/11 Truth
>> http://st911.org
>>
>> 200+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns Found in the Mainstream Media
>> http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html
>>
>> 9/11 WTC 'Controlled Demolition Theory' Analysis Thread
>> http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewtopic.php?t=4820
>
> There appears to be a lot of "crackpot" theories being
> floated in order make questioning of the Air Force
> response on Sept. 11 2001 look like another "crackpot"
> issue.
>
> Given Norad's response on 9/11 it appears that a Soviet
> bomber could have departed Cuba heading NE up the
> coast in international airspace and made a quick left
> turn towards any US coastal city unchallenged.
> A $300+ billion DOD budget didn''t buy much "D".
>
> JG
>
You don't see the difference between tracking domestic commercial
flights and those originating form outside?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
Richard Lamb
May 2nd 06, 06:53 AM
Dan wrote:
>
> wrote:
> > The Real News wrote:
> >> Former Head of Star Wars Program, Dr Robert Bowman...
> >>
> >> 1. coined the term "Star Wars"
> >> 2. was Head of Star Wars in the Ford and Carter administrations
> >> 3. is a retired USAF Lt Col with 101 combat missions in Vietnam
> >> 4. is a former Interceptor Fighter Pilot and knows all the NORAD drills
> >> 5. has a PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering
> >> 6. is currently running for Congress
> >>
> >>
> >> mp3 Interview Link at Bottom of Article:
> >>
> >> Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
> >> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/040406mainsuspect.htm
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> See also...
> >>
> >>
> >> 911 Blogger
> >> http://www.911Blogger.com
> >>
> >> Scholars for 9/11 Truth
> >> http://st911.org
> >>
> >> 200+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns Found in the Mainstream Media
> >> http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html
> >>
> >> 9/11 WTC 'Controlled Demolition Theory' Analysis Thread
> >> http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewtopic.php?t=4820
> >
> > There appears to be a lot of "crackpot" theories being
> > floated in order make questioning of the Air Force
> > response on Sept. 11 2001 look like another "crackpot"
> > issue.
> >
> > Given Norad's response on 9/11 it appears that a Soviet
> > bomber could have departed Cuba heading NE up the
> > coast in international airspace and made a quick left
> > turn towards any US coastal city unchallenged.
> > A $300+ billion DOD budget didn''t buy much "D".
> >
> > JG
> >
>
> You don't see the difference between tracking domestic commercial
> flights and those originating form outside?
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
first time - surprise.
Yeah. Nobody really expected that.
Dave Holford
May 3rd 06, 01:20 AM
Richard Lamb wrote:
> Dan wrote:
> >
> > wrote:
> > > The Real News wrote:
> > >> Former Head of Star Wars Program, Dr Robert Bowman...
> > >>
> > >> 1. coined the term "Star Wars"
> > >> 2. was Head of Star Wars in the Ford and Carter administrations
> > >> 3. is a retired USAF Lt Col with 101 combat missions in Vietnam
> > >> 4. is a former Interceptor Fighter Pilot and knows all the NORAD drills
> > >> 5. has a PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering
> > >> 6. is currently running for Congress
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> mp3 Interview Link at Bottom of Article:
> > >>
> > >> Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
> > >> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/040406mainsuspect.htm
> > >>
> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> See also...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 911 Blogger
> > >> http://www.911Blogger.com
> > >>
> > >> Scholars for 9/11 Truth
> > >> http://st911.org
> > >>
> > >> 200+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns Found in the Mainstream Media
> > >> http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html
> > >>
> > >> 9/11 WTC 'Controlled Demolition Theory' Analysis Thread
> > >> http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewtopic.php?t=4820
> > >
> > > There appears to be a lot of "crackpot" theories being
> > > floated in order make questioning of the Air Force
> > > response on Sept. 11 2001 look like another "crackpot"
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > Given Norad's response on 9/11 it appears that a Soviet
> > > bomber could have departed Cuba heading NE up the
> > > coast in international airspace and made a quick left
> > > turn towards any US coastal city unchallenged.
> > > A $300+ billion DOD budget didn''t buy much "D".
> > >
> > > JG
> > >
> >
> > You don't see the difference between tracking domestic commercial
> > flights and those originating form outside?
> >
> > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> first time - surprise.
>
> Yeah. Nobody really expected that.
Wow,
you mean the ADIZ is just to decorate the charts?
Dave
Richard Lamb
May 3rd 06, 07:54 AM
Dave Holford wrote:
>
> Richard Lamb wrote:
>
> > Dan wrote:
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > The Real News wrote:
> > > >> Former Head of Star Wars Program, Dr Robert Bowman...
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. coined the term "Star Wars"
> > > >> 2. was Head of Star Wars in the Ford and Carter administrations
> > > >> 3. is a retired USAF Lt Col with 101 combat missions in Vietnam
> > > >> 4. is a former Interceptor Fighter Pilot and knows all the NORAD drills
> > > >> 5. has a PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering
> > > >> 6. is currently running for Congress
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> mp3 Interview Link at Bottom of Article:
> > > >>
> > > >> Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
> > > >> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/040406mainsuspect.htm
> > > >>
> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> See also...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 911 Blogger
> > > >> http://www.911Blogger.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Scholars for 9/11 Truth
> > > >> http://st911.org
> > > >>
> > > >> 200+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns Found in the Mainstream Media
> > > >> http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html
> > > >>
> > > >> 9/11 WTC 'Controlled Demolition Theory' Analysis Thread
> > > >> http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewtopic.php?t=4820
> > > >
> > > > There appears to be a lot of "crackpot" theories being
> > > > floated in order make questioning of the Air Force
> > > > response on Sept. 11 2001 look like another "crackpot"
> > > > issue.
> > > >
> > > > Given Norad's response on 9/11 it appears that a Soviet
> > > > bomber could have departed Cuba heading NE up the
> > > > coast in international airspace and made a quick left
> > > > turn towards any US coastal city unchallenged.
> > > > A $300+ billion DOD budget didn''t buy much "D".
> > > >
> > > > JG
> > > >
> > >
> > > You don't see the difference between tracking domestic commercial
> > > flights and those originating form outside?
> > >
> > > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
> >
> > first time - surprise.
> >
> > Yeah. Nobody really expected that.
>
> Wow,
>
> you mean the ADIZ is just to decorate the charts?
>
> Dave
In this instance, yeah.
They were all domestic flights.
What is your bitch, anyway?
Dave Holford
May 3rd 06, 01:05 PM
Richard Lamb wrote:
> Dave Holford wrote:
> >
> > Richard Lamb wrote:
> >
> > > Dan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > The Real News wrote:
> > > > >> Former Head of Star Wars Program, Dr Robert Bowman...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1. coined the term "Star Wars"
> > > > >> 2. was Head of Star Wars in the Ford and Carter administrations
> > > > >> 3. is a retired USAF Lt Col with 101 combat missions in Vietnam
> > > > >> 4. is a former Interceptor Fighter Pilot and knows all the NORAD drills
> > > > >> 5. has a PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering
> > > > >> 6. is currently running for Congress
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> mp3 Interview Link at Bottom of Article:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
> > > > >> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/040406mainsuspect.htm
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> See also...
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 911 Blogger
> > > > >> http://www.911Blogger.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Scholars for 9/11 Truth
> > > > >> http://st911.org
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 200+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns Found in the Mainstream Media
> > > > >> http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 9/11 WTC 'Controlled Demolition Theory' Analysis Thread
> > > > >> http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewtopic.php?t=4820
> > > > >
> > > > > There appears to be a lot of "crackpot" theories being
> > > > > floated in order make questioning of the Air Force
> > > > > response on Sept. 11 2001 look like another "crackpot"
> > > > > issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given Norad's response on 9/11 it appears that a Soviet
> > > > > bomber could have departed Cuba heading NE up the
> > > > > coast in international airspace and made a quick left
> > > > > turn towards any US coastal city unchallenged.
> > > > > A $300+ billion DOD budget didn''t buy much "D".
> > > > >
> > > > > JG
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You don't see the difference between tracking domestic commercial
> > > > flights and those originating form outside?
> > > >
> > > > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
> > >
> > > first time - surprise.
> > >
> > > Yeah. Nobody really expected that.
> >
> > Wow,
> >
> > you mean the ADIZ is just to decorate the charts?
> >
> > Dave
>
> In this instance, yeah.
> They were all domestic flights.
>
> What is your bitch, anyway?
What bitch?
Dan wrote:
> wrote:
> > The Real News wrote:
> >> Former Head of Star Wars Program, Dr Robert Bowman...
> >>
> >> 1. coined the term "Star Wars"
> >> 2. was Head of Star Wars in the Ford and Carter administrations
> >> 3. is a retired USAF Lt Col with 101 combat missions in Vietnam
> >> 4. is a former Interceptor Fighter Pilot and knows all the NORAD drills
> >> 5. has a PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering
> >> 6. is currently running for Congress
> >>
> >>
> >> mp3 Interview Link at Bottom of Article:
> >>
> >> Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
> >> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/040406mainsuspect.htm
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> See also...
> >>
> >>
> >> 911 Blogger
> >> http://www.911Blogger.com
> >>
> >> Scholars for 9/11 Truth
> >> http://st911.org
> >>
> >> 200+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns Found in the Mainstream Media
> >> http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html
> >>
> >> 9/11 WTC 'Controlled Demolition Theory' Analysis Thread
> >> http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewtopic.php?t=4820
> >
> > There appears to be a lot of "crackpot" theories being
> > floated in order make questioning of the Air Force
> > response on Sept. 11 2001 look like another "crackpot"
> > issue.
> >
> > Given Norad's response on 9/11 it appears that a Soviet
> > bomber could have departed Cuba heading NE up the
> > coast in international airspace and made a quick left
> > turn towards any US coastal city unchallenged.
> > A $300+ billion DOD budget didn''t buy much "D".
> >
> > JG
> >
>
> You don't see the difference between tracking domestic commercial
> flights and those originating form outside?
It not the tracking, but the response time. The Pentagon was hit a good
45
minutes after NYC, and F-16s weren't launched until later. A soviet
bomber could have been tracked up international airspace and then
headed
west, and a similiar response time would have occured.
JG
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
Steve Hix
May 4th 06, 06:48 AM
In article . com>,
wrote:
> Dan wrote:
> > wrote:
> > > The Real News wrote:
> > >> Former Head of Star Wars Program, Dr Robert Bowman...
> > >>
> > >> 1. coined the term "Star Wars"
> > >> 2. was Head of Star Wars in the Ford and Carter administrations
> > >> 3. is a retired USAF Lt Col with 101 combat missions in Vietnam
> > >> 4. is a former Interceptor Fighter Pilot and knows all the NORAD drills
> > >> 5. has a PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering
> > >> 6. is currently running for Congress
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> mp3 Interview Link at Bottom of Article:
> > >>
> > >> Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
> > >> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/040406mainsuspect.htm
> > >>
> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> See also...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 911 Blogger
> > >> http://www.911Blogger.com
> > >>
> > >> Scholars for 9/11 Truth
> > >> http://st911.org
> > >>
> > >> 200+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns Found in the Mainstream Media
> > >> http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html
> > >>
> > >> 9/11 WTC 'Controlled Demolition Theory' Analysis Thread
> > >> http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewtopic.php?t=4820
> > >
> > > There appears to be a lot of "crackpot" theories being
> > > floated in order make questioning of the Air Force
> > > response on Sept. 11 2001 look like another "crackpot"
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > Given Norad's response on 9/11 it appears that a Soviet
> > > bomber could have departed Cuba heading NE up the
> > > coast in international airspace and made a quick left
> > > turn towards any US coastal city unchallenged.
> > > A $300+ billion DOD budget didn''t buy much "D".
> > >
> > > JG
> > >
> >
> > You don't see the difference between tracking domestic commercial
> > flights and those originating form outside?
>
> It not the tracking, but the response time. The Pentagon was hit a good
> 45
> minutes after NYC, and F-16s weren't launched until later. A soviet
> bomber could have been tracked up international airspace and then
> headed west, and a similiar response time would have occured.
The response time was greatly affected by the confusion resulting from
the first crash; it took quite a while to determine that it wasn't just
a horrible accident.
Just as you noted, the fighters weren't launched until after the second
crash, at which time it became evident that it was intentional, and it
was time to look for other potential attackers.
Sorting them, in this case Flight 93, from all the other airliners in
the process of getting down from their scheduled routes was going to
take even more time.
A bomber inbound through the ADIZ is going to generate very different
responses; NORAD is looking outward, a bomber heading in is exactly the
sort of thing they were looking for. An airliner inbound intending to do
the same thing would be harder to catch, assuming they were following
normal flight procedures and comm.
Laurence Doering
May 5th 06, 12:13 AM
On 3 May 2006 16:24:15 -0700, > wrote:
> Dan wrote:
>>
>> You don't see the difference between tracking domestic commercial
>> flights and those originating form outside?
>
> It not the tracking, but the response time. The Pentagon was hit a good
> 45 minutes after NYC, and F-16s weren't launched until later. A soviet
> bomber could have been tracked up international airspace and then
> headed west, and a similiar response time would have occured.
I doubt it. The reason there were only a few fighter aircraft
on alert (at Langley AFB in Virginia and Otis ANGB in Massachusetts)
on September 11, 2001, was because 2001 was *ten years* after the
Soviet Union ceased to exist.
If 9/11 had happened in 1991, there would have been more fighters
on alert along the East Coast and NORAD would most likely have
responded faster.
As it was, NORAD's timeline says F-15s from Otis ANGB were over New
York 19 minutes after they were ordered to take off at 8:52 am, which
was 15 minutes after NORAD was alerted at 8:37 am.
ljd
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