Most beautiful Navy jet ever?

[TV]

I've narrowed it down to two:

http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg

I'd have to go with the one on top.

TV

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"TV" > wrote in message
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>
> I've narrowed it down to two:
>
> http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>
> I'd have to go with the one on top.
>

I'd have to go with the FJ-2

[Keith W]

"TV" > wrote in message
...
> I've narrowed it down to two:
>
> http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>
> I'd have to go with the one on top.
>
> TV
>

I'll nominate the Hawker Sea Hawk

http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/seahawk/gallery.html

Keith

[Andrew Robert Breen]

In article >,
Keith W > wrote:
>
>"TV" > wrote in message
...
>> I've narrowed it down to two:
>>
>> http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>>
>> I'd have to go with the one on top.
>>
>> TV
>>
>
>I'll nominate the Hawker Sea Hawk
>
>http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/seahawk/gallery.html

Obviously thinking along the same lines as me. I was going to
suggest the Squark, too.

--
Andy Breen ~ Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth
Feng Shui: an ancient oriental art for extracting
money from the gullible (Martin Sinclair)

[Harry Andreas]

In article >, "TV" >
wrote:

> I've narrowed it down to two:
>
> http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>
> I'd have to go with the one on top.

I always liked the Douglas F-4D Skyray

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

[Ed Rasimus]

On Tue, 2 May 2006 11:14:41 -0400, "TV" > wrote:

>I've narrowed it down to two:
>
>http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>
>I'd have to go with the one on top.

While the paint jobs are good, both aircraft are loaded with too many
engines and too many crewmembers, not to mention all those lumps,
bumps, proturbences and projections. They might even be some British
design rejection that was insufficiently ugly and abandoned in favor
of a Buccaneer.

No, the most beautiful Navy jet ever was the A-5 Vigilante--it also
had an overabundance of engines, etc, but it was beautiful.



Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com

[Yofuri]

TV wrote:
> I've narrowed it down to two:
>
> http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>
> I'd have to go with the one on top.
>
> TV
>
>

No chance!

http://www.bobjellison.com/RA5C_Vigilante2.htm

or

http://www.skyhawk.org/common/a-3.htm

Rick
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[Dale Falk]

In article et>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote:

> "TV" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > I've narrowed it down to two:
> >
> > http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
> >
> > I'd have to go with the one on top.
> >
>
> I'd have to go with the FJ-2
>
>

You guys are pretty much tasteless!!

http://www.stushepherd.homestead.com/files/F9FPanther.htm

[John Weiss]

"TV" > wrote...
> I've narrowed it down to two:
>
> http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>
> I'd have to go with the one on top.

I think you're blind. ;-)

It HAS TO BE the A-5 Vigilante!

http://www.photovault.com/Link/Military/Navy/Aircraft/A-5Vigilante.html
http://www.vectorsite.net/ava5.html
http://www.military.cz/usa/air/post_war/a5/a5_en.htm
http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/a-5_vigilante.pl
http://www.paxmuseum.com/a5/ra5c.htm

[W. D. Allen]

Having flown the F9F-2/5/6/8 and FJ-3/4B I submit the FJ-4 had the sexiest
fuselage profile, plus well swept wings that looked great as a flight broke
left for landing.

Interestingly, though the FJ-4B was 1,000 lb. heavier than the FJ-3 with the
same J-65 engine it's lower drag fuselage and greater wing area made it
faster at top speed. Moreover, the FJ-3 ailerons extended to the wing tips,
consequently in a high speed dive putting the stick to the left or right
resulting in a roll in the opposite direction than expected. Also, the early
FJ-3 leading edge droop slots were closed or opened by aerodynamic pressure.
In a tight fur ball with an "enemy" the inner wing slot would pop open
causing a roll to the outside of the turn giving unfair advantage to lesser
airplanes such as the F4Ds, F10Fs, F3Hs and other clunkers. That said, the
FJ-3/4 had probably the most well layed out fighter cockpit. Too bad it was
low powered as were all the F9Fs as well!

WDA
USN Ret. (almost half a century ago)

"Dale Falk" > wrote in message
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> In article et>,
> "Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote:
>
>> "TV" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > I've narrowed it down to two:
>> >
>> > http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>> >
>> > I'd have to go with the one on top.
>> >
>>
>> I'd have to go with the FJ-2
>>
>>
>
> You guys are pretty much tasteless!!
>
> http://www.stushepherd.homestead.com/files/F9FPanther.htm

[Leanne]

"Harry Andreas" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "TV" >
> wrote:
>
> > I've narrowed it down to two:
> >
> > http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
> >
> > I'd have to go with the one on top.
>
> I always liked the Douglas F-4D Skyray

I would go with that or a "scooter," thought that it was one that you didn't
strap in, so much as you strapped on the airplane around you.

Leanne
Former avionics person

[John Carrier]

Without a doubt, the F-8.

http://www.pcaviator.com/shop/resource/images/products/VCOPSssLarge1936.jpg

And if you want it really deadly looking, The Super Crusader.

http://www.vought.com/heritage/photo/html/pf8u-3_4.html

"TV" > wrote in message
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> I've narrowed it down to two:
>
> http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>
> I'd have to go with the one on top.
>
> TV
>

[Jack G]

For looks that could kill, the early F7U Cutlass. For aesthetics the A-5.
Jack G.

"TV" > wrote in message
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> I've narrowed it down to two:
>
> http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>
> I'd have to go with the one on top.
>
> TV
>

[John A. Weeks III]

In article >,
"John Weiss" > wrote:

> "TV" > wrote...
> > I've narrowed it down to two:
> >
> > http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
> >
> > I'd have to go with the one on top.
>
> I think you're blind. ;-)
>
> It HAS TO BE the A-5 Vigilante!

Absolutely, has to be the A-5. No doubt.
Then again, the Cougar and Panther were
pretty nice looking, as was the Fury. If
it doesn't have to be a jet, then it is the
F7F Tigercat by a country mile.

How about the most ugly? The Cutlass?

-john-

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[Steven P. McNicoll]

"John A. Weeks III" > wrote in message
...
>
> Absolutely, has to be the A-5. No doubt.
> Then again, the Cougar and Panther were
> pretty nice looking, as was the Fury. If
> it doesn't have to be a jet, then it is the
> F7F Tigercat by a country mile.
>

Grumman built a long line of fine naval fighters. None of them were ugly,
but I never thought any of them were very attractive. The one exception
being the F7F, that was one goddamngoodlookin airplane!

[John Weiss]

"John A. Weeks III" > wrote...
>
> How about the most ugly? The Cutlass?

The A-6 Intruder -- especially if you are on the receiving end!

John Weiss
ex Intruder Aviator

[TV]

My goodness, there's some perverted folks here! ;) Seriously, here's the
beauty of the A-5: http://www.samolet.co.uk/tu-22.jpg . Oh, no wait, that's
a GIANT TWIN-ENGINE RUSSIAN BOMBER!!! Any jet that looks like a bomber is
automatically disqualified from any most beautiful contest! Nope, the -4
or -14 have to be it. And not only are they beautiful, but both have shown
that they're great on top or on bottom, day or night! ;) Cheers,

TV

[DDAY]

----------
In article >, "John Weiss"
> wrote:

>> How about the most ugly? The Cutlass?
>
> The A-6 Intruder -- especially if you are on the receiving end!

I always thought that the A-3 Skywarrior was pretty ugly, but the Cutlass is
worse.



D

[WaltBJ]

Y'all forgot the Grumman Tiger F11F-1F? Kind of a naval F104 with its
J79 engine. Between that little beauty and the F5D-1 Skylancer
(sleeker, better-built Ford) I'd be hard-pressed to make a choice.
Walt BJ

[Gordon]

Walt, my thoughts while scrolling down this thread were, "WTF? Haven't
ANY of these guys every seen a Tiger??"

As for ugliest, _nothing_ shoulders the A-7 SLUF out of the lead in
that category.

v/r
Gordon

[[email protected]]

In his oral history, Geroge Spangenberg said that an unofficial
requirement was that an aircraft for the navy "had to look good". The
F3H was bought during his tenure...not sure what happened there.

[Judge]

Without a doubt, the finest fighter both in visual appeal as well as
turn-n-burn fighting, the last of the gunfighters wins - The F8
Crusader. Sure, there were some pretty birds... but the F8 was the
baddest of them all. Why the Navy let the boys in DC stick them with
the F4 is beyond me... what a dog! I bet the gooks breathed a sigh of
relief when they heard the fierce Crusaders were being retired in
favor of the 'dump truck'.

The Cougar was a cutie, but it wasnt 'beautiful'. The A5 reminds me of
a dachsund with a kite on it's back, yech! LOL

As far as all warbirds - I'd say the F104 with wingtanks is far and
away the sexiest airplane ever to fly. It's only competitor would be
the XB-70.

[Richard Lamb]

TA4-J, even if it does have a small engine...

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Judge" > wrote in message
...
>
> As far as all warbirds - I'd say the F104 with wingtanks is far and
> away the sexiest airplane ever to fly. It's only competitor would be
> the XB-70.
>

B-58

[R Leonard]

That's a tough call. Easy to pick out the uglies and even the
average lookers, but for the 10's, it is a close call between the
F4D, the A-5, and F8U. Ahhhh crap . . . I'll go with the A-5 just on
looks and, for lethal looks, the F8U.

Rich

[Schlomo Lipchitz]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but my candidate is the Douglas
F4D Skyray.

On Wed, 03 May 2006 01:36:25 -0400, Judge > wrote:

>Without a doubt, the finest fighter both in visual appeal as well as
>turn-n-burn fighting, the last of the gunfighters wins - The F8
>Crusader. Sure, there were some pretty birds... but the F8 was the
>baddest of them all. Why the Navy let the boys in DC stick them with
>the F4 is beyond me... what a dog! I bet the gooks breathed a sigh of
>relief when they heard the fierce Crusaders were being retired in
>favor of the 'dump truck'.
>
>The Cougar was a cutie, but it wasnt 'beautiful'. The A5 reminds me of
>a dachsund with a kite on it's back, yech! LOL
>
>As far as all warbirds - I'd say the F104 with wingtanks is far and
>away the sexiest airplane ever to fly. It's only competitor would be
>the XB-70.

[Diamond Jim]

"Ed Rasimus" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 2 May 2006 11:14:41 -0400, "TV" > wrote:
>
> >I've narrowed it down to two:
> >
> >http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
> >
> >I'd have to go with the one on top.
>
> While the paint jobs are good, both aircraft are loaded with too many
> engines and too many crewmembers, not to mention all those lumps,
> bumps, proturbences and projections. They might even be some British
> design rejection that was insufficiently ugly and abandoned in favor
> of a Buccaneer.
>
> No, the most beautiful Navy jet ever was the A-5 Vigilante--it also
> had an overabundance of engines, etc, but it was beautiful.
>
>
>
> Ed Rasimus
> Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
> "When Thunder Rolled"
> www.thunderchief.org
> www.thundertales.blogspot.com

You got pretty good taste for a Air Force puke, I gotta agree the Viggie was
the most beautiful ever.

Diamond Jim

[[email protected]]

One of the most beautiful must be the early F7Us with the needle nose
and it's predicessor the F6U the ugliest.

On Tue, 2 May 2006 11:14:41 -0400, "TV" > wrote:

>I've narrowed it down to two:
>
>http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>
>I'd have to go with the one on top.
>
>TV
>


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[Mike Kanze]

I second John's nomination.

--
Mike Kanze

"Owl", B/N
A-6A, A-6B (PAT ARM), KA-6D


"John Weiss" > wrote in message ...
"John A. Weeks III" > wrote...
>
> How about the most ugly? The Cutlass?

The A-6 Intruder -- especially if you are on the receiving end!

John Weiss
ex Intruder Aviator

[WaltBJ]

Wingtanks on a Zipper? (104 for you noncognoscenti) Okay for long
crosscountrys but the bird is really a 'Zipper' with naked tips - also
pulls yards of streamers in the pattern, too. Of course, it'll pull
about half a G more with Winders aboard - less tip loss but for an
extreme look - leave the wingtips naked. BTW the USN had some ugly
birds (F6U, F12C, F13C, very first FJ1) but the Brits and French beat
them all hollow for uglies.
Walt BJ

[JD]

Ed,

I will have to agree with you on that one. In flight, the Viggie was one
pretty bird. A Viggie on final and trapping was another story.... Kiss the
deck and thank the air gods....

Jake

"Ed Rasimus" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 2 May 2006 11:14:41 -0400, "TV" > wrote:
>
>>I've narrowed it down to two:
>>
>>http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>>
>>I'd have to go with the one on top.
>
> While the paint jobs are good, both aircraft are loaded with too many
> engines and too many crewmembers, not to mention all those lumps,
> bumps, proturbences and projections. They might even be some British
> design rejection that was insufficiently ugly and abandoned in favor
> of a Buccaneer.
>
> No, the most beautiful Navy jet ever was the A-5 Vigilante--it also
> had an overabundance of engines, etc, but it was beautiful.
>
>
>
> Ed Rasimus
> Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
> "When Thunder Rolled"
> www.thunderchief.org
> www.thundertales.blogspot.com

[Keith W]

"Judge" > wrote in message
...
> Doh! You're right... the Hustler was one sexy bird!
>
> but then again, I find the B36 one the all time coolest warbirds too.
>

For land based jets the Hawker Hunter was a real beaut IMHO

Keith



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DDAY wrote:
> ----------
> In article >, "John Weiss"
> > wrote:
>
> >> How about the most ugly? The Cutlass?
> >
> > The A-6 Intruder -- especially if you are on the receiving end!
>
> I always thought that the A-3 Skywarrior was pretty ugly, but the Cutlass is
> worse.
>
>
>
> D

When the A-3 had a pointed nose, was sans the refueling probe, and had
the turret aft, it had a fetching reto look about it

[Mike Kanze]

....Or maneuvering on a crowded flight deck, with that nose strut way aft of the cockpit.

Viggie drivers hadda have very flexible necks and lots of faith in the Yellow Shirts, especially at night or on a slick deck.

--
Mike Kanze

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."

- Albert Einstein

"JD" > wrote in message news:pGd6g.57275$IZ2.55119@dukeread07...
Ed,

I will have to agree with you on that one. In flight, the Viggie was one
pretty bird. A Viggie on final and trapping was another story.... Kiss the
deck and thank the air gods....

Jake

"Ed Rasimus" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 2 May 2006 11:14:41 -0400, "TV" > wrote:
>
>>I've narrowed it down to two:
>>
>>http://www.voodoo.cz/tomcat/b/f14058.jpg
>>
>>I'd have to go with the one on top.
>
> While the paint jobs are good, both aircraft are loaded with too many
> engines and too many crewmembers, not to mention all those lumps,
> bumps, proturbences and projections. They might even be some British
> design rejection that was insufficiently ugly and abandoned in favor
> of a Buccaneer.
>
> No, the most beautiful Navy jet ever was the A-5 Vigilante--it also
> had an overabundance of engines, etc, but it was beautiful.
>
>
>
> Ed Rasimus
> Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
> "When Thunder Rolled"
> www.thunderchief.org
> www.thundertales.blogspot.com

[vincent p. norris]

> BTW the USN had some ugly birds ( F12C, F13C ......

The F11C-2 is still one of the best-looking navy fighters.

> but the Brits and French beat them all hollow for uglies.

The Fairey Gannet, for example.

vince norris

[Dave in San Diego]

"Mike Kanze" > wrote in
:

> ...Or maneuvering on a crowded flight deck, with that nose strut way aft
> of the cockpit.
>
> Viggie drivers hadda have very flexible necks and lots of faith in the
> Yellow Shirts, especially at night or on a slick deck.
>

Well, the Scooter wasn't much better was it, with the IFR probe sticking way
out like that? I hated having to park (direct) them on the T-Line because of
that.

Dave in San Diego

[Keith W]

"vincent p. norris" > wrote in message
...
>> BTW the USN had some ugly birds ( F12C, F13C ......
>
> The F11C-2 is still one of the best-looking navy fighters.
>
>> but the Brits and French beat them all hollow for uglies.
>
> The Fairey Gannet, for example.
>
> vince norris

Positively pretty compared with the Fairey Barracuda
or Blackburn Blackburn not forgetting the Boulton
Paul Overstrand.

Keith

[Gord Beaman]

"Keith W" > wrote:

>
>"vincent p. norris" > wrote in message
...
>>> BTW the USN had some ugly birds ( F12C, F13C ......
>>
>> The F11C-2 is still one of the best-looking navy fighters.
>>
>>> but the Brits and French beat them all hollow for uglies.
>>
>> The Fairey Gannet, for example.
>>
>> vince norris
>
>Positively pretty compared with the Fairey Barracuda
>or Blackburn Blackburn not forgetting the Boulton
>Paul Overstrand.
>
>Keith
>
Yeh...and the Bristol Freighter ain't no beauty either...
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)