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May 9th 06, 05:55 AM
Do the various downloadable handbooks from the FAA website, viz.
Aeronautical Information Manual, Airplane Flying Handbook, Instrument
Flying Handbook, Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge and Aircraft Weight
& Balance Handbook suffice as reading material for obtaining a CPL or
are there other specific books? Thanks in advance,

Ramapriya

Peter Duniho
May 9th 06, 07:47 AM
> wrote in message
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> Do the various downloadable handbooks from the FAA website, viz.
> Aeronautical Information Manual, Airplane Flying Handbook, Instrument
> Flying Handbook, Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge and Aircraft Weight
> & Balance Handbook suffice as reading material for obtaining a CPL or
> are there other specific books?

No, those don't cover everything you'd want to know (or even for the Private
Pilot certificate).

Add to those the FARs, the applicable Practical Test Standards, the Aviation
Weather Handbook, and the Aeronautical Chart Users Guide, along with perhaps
some more that I've forgotten at the moment. Aerodynamics for Naval
Aviators is another good reference.

Assuming all those references are available (most are downloadable...the
only one I believe isn't is the Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators), they are
sufficient for some people. Other people learn better when the material is
presented in a different way, and for those people there are a number of
books written for that purpose. In a recent thread, Bill Kershner's books
were mentioned; they remain among my favorite of all aviation training
manuals, ever since I read his primary training student manual (the first
aviation training book I ever read, loaned to me by a coworker when I was
first learning to fly). Rod Machado has similar books, and both Kershner
and Machado have a reputation for having an easy-going, conversational
style. For something more text-book like, there are books from King Schools
(John and Martha), Jeppesen, and ASA, among others.

This is far from an exhaustive list, but it ought to give you a good start,
whatever direction your "start" is taking you. :)

Pete

Jim Macklin
May 9th 06, 08:05 AM
The best weather book for pilots is still Robert N. Buck's
WEATHER FLYING, but you will also need the FAA Aviation
Weather and other texts. Buck tells you how to think about
and fly weather, not how to decode the current charts and
METARS.


Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators is very nice IF you are a
math major, it is unnecessary since the principles of
aerodynamics are covered at the level required the books you
mentioned.

These comments are in addition to Peter's and intended for
Ramapriya.



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"Peter Duniho" > wrote in
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| > wrote in message
|
oups.com...
| > Do the various downloadable handbooks from the FAA
website, viz.
| > Aeronautical Information Manual, Airplane Flying
Handbook, Instrument
| > Flying Handbook, Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge and
Aircraft Weight
| > & Balance Handbook suffice as reading material for
obtaining a CPL or
| > are there other specific books?
|
| No, those don't cover everything you'd want to know (or
even for the Private
| Pilot certificate).
|
| Add to those the FARs, the applicable Practical Test
Standards, the Aviation
| Weather Handbook, and the Aeronautical Chart Users Guide,
along with perhaps
| some more that I've forgotten at the moment. Aerodynamics
for Naval
| Aviators is another good reference.
|
| Assuming all those references are available (most are
downloadable...the
| only one I believe isn't is the Aerodynamics for Naval
Aviators), they are
| sufficient for some people. Other people learn better
when the material is
| presented in a different way, and for those people there
are a number of
| books written for that purpose. In a recent thread, Bill
Kershner's books
| were mentioned; they remain among my favorite of all
aviation training
| manuals, ever since I read his primary training student
manual (the first
| aviation training book I ever read, loaned to me by a
coworker when I was
| first learning to fly). Rod Machado has similar books,
and both Kershner
| and Machado have a reputation for having an easy-going,
conversational
| style. For something more text-book like, there are books
from King Schools
| (John and Martha), Jeppesen, and ASA, among others.
|
| This is far from an exhaustive list, but it ought to give
you a good start,
| whatever direction your "start" is taking you. :)
|
| Pete
|
|

May 9th 06, 08:53 AM
Thanks so much, Pete.
Do you have a link for downloading the Wx Handbook and Aeronautical
Chart Users Guide? I don't seem to find it.

And no, this isn't for me, but for copying stuff onto a CD for a
colleague's daughter who wants to do CPL back in India, where both fuel
and flying are frightfully expensive.

Although I've both Machado and Kershner, the only book I read and
reread is the DP Davies book. So well-written :)

Ramapriya


Peter Duniho wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > Do the various downloadable handbooks from the FAA website, viz.
> > Aeronautical Information Manual, Airplane Flying Handbook, Instrument
> > Flying Handbook, Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge and Aircraft Weight
> > & Balance Handbook suffice as reading material for obtaining a CPL or
> > are there other specific books?
>
> No, those don't cover everything you'd want to know (or even for the Private
> Pilot certificate).
>
> Add to those the FARs, the applicable Practical Test Standards, the Aviation
> Weather Handbook, and the Aeronautical Chart Users Guide, along with perhaps
> some more that I've forgotten at the moment. Aerodynamics for Naval
> Aviators is another good reference.
>
> Assuming all those references are available (most are downloadable...the
> only one I believe isn't is the Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators), they are
> sufficient for some people. Other people learn better when the material is
> presented in a different way, and for those people there are a number of
> books written for that purpose. In a recent thread, Bill Kershner's books
> were mentioned; they remain among my favorite of all aviation training
> manuals, ever since I read his primary training student manual (the first
> aviation training book I ever read, loaned to me by a coworker when I was
> first learning to fly). Rod Machado has similar books, and both Kershner
> and Machado have a reputation for having an easy-going, conversational
> style. For something more text-book like, there are books from King Schools
> (John and Martha), Jeppesen, and ASA, among others.
>
> This is far from an exhaustive list, but it ought to give you a good start,
> whatever direction your "start" is taking you. :)
>
> Pete

May 9th 06, 09:17 AM
wrote:
> Thanks so much, Pete.
> Do you have a link for downloading the Wx Handbook and Aeronautical
> Chart Users Guide? I don't seem to find it.


Found both. Hadn't known where to look :p

Bob Moore
May 9th 06, 12:26 PM
> Although I've both Machado and Kershner, the only book I read and
> reread is the DP Davies book. So well-written :)

Unfortunately....Captain Davies excellent book has nothing to do with the
Commercial Pilot Certificate. It is written more for the pilot who has
already obtained an ATP certificate and is entering the big jet market for
the first time.

Bob Moore

May 9th 06, 01:20 PM
Bob Moore wrote:
>
> Unfortunately....Captain Davies excellent book has nothing to do with the Commercial Pilot Certificate. It is written more for the pilot who has already obtained an ATP certificate and is entering the big jet market for the first time.
>
> Bob Moore


So by Dud logic, my reading Davies should make me very plausible
terrorist potential ;)
More frantic calls to the FBI on the way :))

But Bob, on a serious note, there seems to be something alarmingly
wrong with India's aviation teaching program. Read the following news
item from yesterday:

[Cite]
Of the thousands of aspirants who wrote the theory exams for a
commercial pilot's licence across the country in April, not a single
one appears to have cleared all five subjects. And barely 10% have
passed in two of the five subjects.
The results were declared by the Directorate General of Civil Aviation
(DGCA) on Thursday. Not a single Mumbai candidate has cleared all the
five subjects. Sources in Delhi said that only one student from the
capital has cleared all five subjects.
In Mumbai, 1,045 students registered for the exams but barely 50
managed to clear the air navigation subject, while about 120 got
through air regulation. Just about a dozen or so students managed to
clear air meteorology.
"The failure rate has never been this high. Until last year, at least
30-40% of the students who gave their CPL exams could clear it,''
said an aviation source.
[End cite]

Terrible isn't it? :(

Ramapriya

Bob Moore
May 9th 06, 01:38 PM
> Terrible isn't it? :(

The CPL and ATPL exams given in Europe (Asia?) are MUCH more comprehensive
and difficult than are the corresponding knowledge tests given here in the
USofA.

I'm not sure that any of the USofA study books would prepare one for the
European exams.

Bob Moore

May 9th 06, 06:29 PM
Bob Moore wrote:
> > Terrible isn't it? :(
>
> The CPL and ATPL exams given in Europe (Asia?) are MUCH more comprehensive
> and difficult than are the corresponding knowledge tests given here in the
> USofA.
>
> I'm not sure that any of the USofA study books would prepare one for the
> European exams.
>
> Bob Moore


Is it just me that thinks that had someone less senior written the
above, you'd have been swamped by a slew of chauvinistic vitriol by
now? :)

Ramapriya

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