Presidents in GA A/C

[Franklin Newton]

Which sitting US presidents have flown in a a strictly civilian GA aircraft?
Date, Type, Pilot, Etc.

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Franklin Newton wrote:
> Which sitting US presidents ...

There is never more than one sitting US President

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FF

[Steve Foley]

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> Franklin Newton wrote:
> > Which sitting US presidents ...
>
> There is never more than one sitting US President
>

At the same time.

[Tri-Pacer]

<> There is never more than one sitting US President
>
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WRONG-------wrong

How about Bill and Hillary ??????? :-)

[Montblack]

("Franklin Newton" wrote)
> Which sitting US presidents have flown in a a strictly civilian GA
> aircraft?
> Date, Type, Pilot, Etc.


A few Presidential flying firsts clipped from the web...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/facts.html
Theodore Roosevelt, on Oct. 10, 1910 -- but that was after his presidency.
The first president to fly while serving as president was Franklin D.
Roosevelt. He was flown from Miami to Casablanca in 1943 for a conference
with Winston Churchill.

MOVIE! MOVIE! MOVIE!

http://www.geocities.com/presfacts/roosevelt.html
TR - he was out of office at the time - 1910.
(Notice they refer to him as "Colonel Roosevelt")

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y5B362D1D
(Same like as below ...wait for it)

Movie clip of Teddy Roosevelt's flight in 1910
<http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/papr:@filreq%28@field%28NUMBER+@band%28trmp+4087%2 9%29+@field%28COLLID+roosevelt%29%29>

http://memory.loc.gov/mbrs/trmp/4087.mov
I watched it in Quick-Time here:

Eisenhower was the only president who was a licensed pilot, and he initiated
the use of Air Force One.

Dwight Eisenhower was the first nominee to travel by airplane while
campaigning.

Lyndon Johnson traveled by helicopter when he was running for the US Senate
in Texas (1948).
"In his 1948 campaign for the Senate, Johnson was able to deliver 350
speeches in two months by flying around Texas in a helicopter."

http://www.cah.utexas.edu/dodd/johnsonlbj.html
[1948 Lyndon Johnson's hlicopter]
"After a dramatic campaign in which he traveled by "newfangled" helicopter
all over the state, Johnson defeated Coke Stevenson in the Democratic
primary race to be the party's candidate for the Senate seat vacated by
Senator W. Lee "Pappy" O'Daniel. Johnson won the primary by 87 votes and
earned the nickname "Landslide Lyndon." In the general election, November 2,
he defeated the Republican, Jack Porter, and was elected to the U. S.
Senate."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/05/01/bush.carrier.landing/
[Here's another "first" for you. <g>]
"It was the first time a sitting president has arrived on the deck of an
aircraft carrier by plane."


Montblack
"One of the most significant dates in the [Minnesota State Fair's] history
was September 2, 1901 when then-Vice President Theodore Roosevelt first
uttered, "Speak softly and carry a big stick." Roosevelt became president
just days later after William McKinley was assassinated."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_State_Fair

[Montblack]

("Tri-Pacer" wrote)
>> There is never more than one sitting US President

> WRONG-------wrong
>
> How about Bill and Hillary ??????? :-)


Billary


Montblack

[Franklin Newton]

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> Franklin Newton wrote:
> > Which sitting US presidents ...
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> There is never more than one sitting US President
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> --
>
> FF
>
I stand corrected. Question should have been. Which US Presidents, while in
office, have flown in a US registered civilian aircraft, flown by a civilian
pilot only?

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, said:
>Franklin Newton wrote:
>> Which sitting US presidents ...
>
>There is never more than one sitting US President

Even Rooseveldt got out of his chair once in a while.

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
The problem with this country is that half of the population is below
median intelligence

[Rich Ahrens]

Montblack wrote:

> Eisenhower was the only president who was a licensed pilot, and he
> initiated the use of Air Force One.

Neither Bush got a civilian ticket?

[Montblack]

("Rich Ahrens" wrote)
>> Eisenhower was the only president who was a licensed pilot, and he
>> initiated the use of Air Force One.
>
> Neither Bush got a civilian ticket?


I noticed that after I sent it. Maybe it should now read "first" because of
41 and 43.

http://www.classroomhelp.com/lessons/Presidents/eisenhower.html
20 year old reference material?

Was there a way, immediately after WWII, for military pilots to get
themselves into the civilian license data base with a one-time paperwork
application, or something similar - otherwise it lapsed?

Can GB 43 get current with a medical and a BFR?


Montblack

[Franklin Newton]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
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http://www.classroomhelp.com/lessons/Presidents/eisenhower.html
> 20 year old reference material?
>
> Was there a way, immediately after WWII, for military pilots to get
> themselves into the civilian license data base with a one-time paperwork
> application, or something similar - otherwise it lapsed?
>
> Can GB 43 get current with a medical and a BFR?
>
>
> Montblack
>
Yes, and still is; it's called the military compentcy test. Short written
test covering only the areas in the FAR's that are different from military
regs. You get the certificate you would be qualified for.

[RST Engineering]

Is there a special rating for booze, coke, and raunchy women?

Jim


"Franklin Newton" > wrote in message
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>>
> Yes, and still is; it's called the military compentcy test. Short written
> test covering only the areas in the FAR's that are different from military
> regs. You get the certificate you would be qualified for.
>
>

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Wed, 17 May 2006 17:45:26 -0700, "RST Engineering" >
wrote:

> Is there a special rating for booze, coke, and raunchy women?

Yes, but involves both dual and a cross-country. :-)

Ron Wanttaja

[Richard Riley]

RST Engineering wrote:
> Is there a special rating for booze, coke, and raunchy women?
>
> Jim

Why, do you think Bill Clinton wants to become a pilot?

[Bob Martin]

Franklin Newton wrote:
> "Montblack" > wrote in message
> .
> http://www.classroomhelp.com/lessons/Presidents/eisenhower.html
>> 20 year old reference material?
>>
>> Was there a way, immediately after WWII, for military pilots to get
>> themselves into the civilian license data base with a one-time paperwork
>> application, or something similar - otherwise it lapsed?
>>
>> Can GB 43 get current with a medical and a BFR?
>>
>>
>> Montblack
>>
> Yes, and still is; it's called the military compentcy test. Short written
> test covering only the areas in the FAR's that are different from military
> regs. You get the certificate you would be qualified for.

This leads to interesting situations; one guy I know did this (and flies
for a major airline), but now he's taking lessons at the flight school
because he doesn't have a single-engine rating... he was Air Force and
flew T-37 and T-38, then B-52's. Was somewhat amused by this...

[- Barnyard BOb -]

>> Can GB 43 get current with a medical and a BFR?
>>
>>
>> Montblack
>>
>Yes, and still is; it's called the military compentcy test. Short written
>test covering only the areas in the FAR's that are different from military
>regs. You get the certificate you would be qualified for.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Unless things have change from 45 years ago......
There is a ONE YEAR time frame to convert to civilian ratings.
-=-=-=-

More recent info, surfing the net via google....

14 CFR 61.73 offers U.S. military pilots* the opportunity to transfer
their military training into a civilian license. By taking the
50-question Military Competency Exam applicants are able to receive
the Commercial License with Instrument Rating. Requirements for
obtaining this license include:helicopter

10 (ten) PIC hours within the last 12 months
(simulator time does not qualify)

Instrument Proficiency Check within the past 12 months.


- Barnyard BOb -
Over a half century of flight.