Teach W to fly

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All:

A simple flash game:

http://www.zeljo.com/teach-W-to-fly

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This page is random and kind of off topic but if I recall correctly W
was a pilot of some sort flying like 30 years ago. It appears that he
took his flying lessons in Cessna T-41A and the Jet Trainer Aircraft
Northrop T-38.

I am not sure what happened in the meantime, but it looks to me that he
might need some flight lessons here.

So, all you need to do is to click your mouse on W's body and move the
mouse in any direction. Go ahead, do not hesitate to teach him to fly.



If you find this page fun, and please don't forget to forward this
flying exercise to anyone who might enjoy it.

================================

V

[Jim Macklin]

He was rated in the single seat F 102 Delta fighter and flew
combat air patrol/intercept over the Gulf of Mexico. That
was when the Russians were flying Bear bombers down the east
coast to Cuba and then over the Gulf. Her did not have
enough flight time to go to Viet Ban, although he and some
of his buds did volunteer. The F102 was not used much in VN
because air-to air intercept was not a problem, ground
attack fighters were used more in VN.

He had to be a pretty good stick in order to fly those early
Century Series fighters.



--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


> wrote in message
oups.com...
| All:
|
| A simple flash game:
|
| http://www.zeljo.com/teach-W-to-fly
|
| ================================
|
| This page is random and kind of off topic but if I recall
correctly W
| was a pilot of some sort flying like 30 years ago. It
appears that he
| took his flying lessons in Cessna T-41A and the Jet
Trainer Aircraft
| Northrop T-38.
|
| I am not sure what happened in the meantime, but it looks
to me that he
| might need some flight lessons here.
|
| So, all you need to do is to click your mouse on W's body
and move the
| mouse in any direction. Go ahead, do not hesitate to teach
him to fly.
|
|
|
| If you find this page fun, and please don't forget to
forward this
| flying exercise to anyone who might enjoy it.
|
| ================================
|
| V
|

[Dudley Henriques]

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:TG5ag.20821$ZW3.10392@dukeread04...
> He was rated in the single seat F 102 Delta fighter and flew
> combat air patrol/intercept over the Gulf of Mexico. That
> was when the Russians were flying Bear bombers down the east
> coast to Cuba and then over the Gulf. Her did not have
> enough flight time to go to Viet Ban, although he and some
> of his buds did volunteer. The F102 was not used much in VN
> because air-to air intercept was not a problem, ground
> attack fighters were used more in VN.
>
> He had to be a pretty good stick in order to fly those early
> Century Series fighters.

You can say THAT again! I'm getting sick of people who don't know the first
damn thing about flying high performance airplanes making fun of a guy who
did it.
The 102 was a drag queen. Just dealing with the Ps loss to drag rise turning
from base to final made a man of most pilots flying this airplane. Then
handling the drag curve on final finished the education.
In the 102, you were either damn good, or you were damn dead!
Dudley

[Jim Macklin]

I just wish he'd said "We won't be flying bombers from
Missouri to Iraq on a daily basis, you guys got the
immediate job done, now we win the peace.,"

Of course formal hostilities ended with the Germans and most
of the Japanese in 1945, but there was still "resistance"
for years afterward.



--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
nk.net...
|
| "Jim Macklin" > wrote
in message
| news:TG5ag.20821$ZW3.10392@dukeread04...
| > He was rated in the single seat F 102 Delta fighter and
flew
| > combat air patrol/intercept over the Gulf of Mexico.
That
| > was when the Russians were flying Bear bombers down the
east
| > coast to Cuba and then over the Gulf. Her did not have
| > enough flight time to go to Viet Ban, although he and
some
| > of his buds did volunteer. The F102 was not used much
in VN
| > because air-to air intercept was not a problem, ground
| > attack fighters were used more in VN.
| >
| > He had to be a pretty good stick in order to fly those
early
| > Century Series fighters.
|
| You can say THAT again! I'm getting sick of people who
don't know the first
| damn thing about flying high performance airplanes making
fun of a guy who
| did it.
| The 102 was a drag queen. Just dealing with the Ps loss to
drag rise turning
| from base to final made a man of most pilots flying this
airplane. Then
| handling the drag curve on final finished the education.
| In the 102, you were either damn good, or you were damn
dead!
| Dudley
|
|

[Dudley Henriques]

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:QY9ag.20839$ZW3.11962@dukeread04...

>I just wish he'd said "We won't be flying bombers from
> Missouri to Iraq on a daily basis, you guys got the
> immediate job done, now we win the peace.,"

Boy, if you only knew how many times I've echoed that sentiment!!!

Dudley

[Jim Macklin]

What he said wasn't wrong or improper in any way, except the
news media took the words "major combat" and turned that
into "war's over" and they kept repeating it, 24/7.

What I like most about GW is that when he needs to be seen
in a "roughing it" setting, he goes to his closet and gets
out a daily work outfit. He'd even looked "right" in his
flight suit on the carrier.
But Clinton, Gore et al had to send a rush FedEx over-night
order to LL Bean. I thought they almost looked like Minnie
Pearl with the price tags on the cuffs.

I have many complaints against GW, no vetoes,
McCain-Feingold lead my list. But I think he is so honest
and open, If I could, I'd vote for him again. But as I've
written the Whitehouse on many occasions, Cheney {another
person I really like] should step down just after the
November elections. GW should appoint Condi as VP. That
would make Condi the most qualified person to run for
President in 2008. I like her.

Jim
"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
nk.net...
|
| "Jim Macklin" > wrote
in message
| news:QY9ag.20839$ZW3.11962@dukeread04...
|
| >I just wish he'd said "We won't be flying bombers from
| > Missouri to Iraq on a daily basis, you guys got the
| > immediate job done, now we win the peace.,"
|
| Boy, if you only knew how many times I've echoed that
sentiment!!!
|
| Dudley
|
|

[Bob Moore]

Jim Macklin wrote
> What I like most about GW is.........

Great post Jim! Just won the "Troll of the Year Award".

Bob Moore

[Jay Honeck]

> GW should appoint Condi as VP. That
> would make Condi the most qualified person to run for
> President in 2008. I like her.

Agreed -- but what, exactly, are her politics?

In typical diplomatic fashion, Condi Rice plays that pretty tight.
She's definitely a bright, classy lady -- but I'm hard pressed to tell
you what she stands for...or against. And I think she want it that
way...for now.

The next presidential election will be interesting, to say the least.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Matt Barrow]

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
. 121...
> Jim Macklin wrote
>> What I like most about GW is.........
>
> Great post Jim! Just won the "Troll of the Year Award".
>

Great post, Bob! Just won "The Stupid Response of the Year" Award.

[Matt Barrow]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> GW should appoint Condi as VP. That
>> would make Condi the most qualified person to run for
>> President in 2008. I like her.
>
> Agreed -- but what, exactly, are her politics?
>
> In typical diplomatic fashion, Condi Rice plays that pretty tight.
> She's definitely a bright, classy lady -- but I'm hard pressed to tell
> you what she stands for...or against. And I think she want it that
> way...for now.

From what I can tell, she's a moderate Republican, which means her politics
are fuzzy in the extreme (of course, it's the same for the other branches of
Republicans).

>
> The next presidential election will be interesting, to say the least.

I like Condi, but she has ZERO executive experience. Interestingly, I'd
really like Tom Sowell or Walter Williams to run, but neither of them has
executive experience, either. If guts was the primary qualification, all
three would be shoo-ins.

[Dudley Henriques]

I have become so totally disgusted and discouraged with the political
situation in the United States that the mere mention of the word lawyer to
me sends me into a rage. My wife has bought me something called a bad call
brick (nerf material) that I can throw with all my might into the television
screen every time a lawyer or politician appears. :-)
I have been reduced to pulling the handle on the voting machine after
considering which politician is lying to me and will hurt my country the
least.
I can't even discuss politics any more.
Dudley

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:8qcag.20860$ZW3.15757@dukeread04...
> What he said wasn't wrong or improper in any way, except the
> news media took the words "major combat" and turned that
> into "war's over" and they kept repeating it, 24/7.
>
> What I like most about GW is that when he needs to be seen
> in a "roughing it" setting, he goes to his closet and gets
> out a daily work outfit. He'd even looked "right" in his
> flight suit on the carrier.
> But Clinton, Gore et al had to send a rush FedEx over-night
> order to LL Bean. I thought they almost looked like Minnie
> Pearl with the price tags on the cuffs.
>
> I have many complaints against GW, no vetoes,
> McCain-Feingold lead my list. But I think he is so honest
> and open, If I could, I'd vote for him again. But as I've
> written the Whitehouse on many occasions, Cheney {another
> person I really like] should step down just after the
> November elections. GW should appoint Condi as VP. That
> would make Condi the most qualified person to run for
> President in 2008. I like her.
>
> Jim
> "Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> |
> | "Jim Macklin" > wrote
> in message
> | news:QY9ag.20839$ZW3.11962@dukeread04...
> |
> | >I just wish he'd said "We won't be flying bombers from
> | > Missouri to Iraq on a daily basis, you guys got the
> | > immediate job done, now we win the peace.,"
> |
> | Boy, if you only knew how many times I've echoed that
> sentiment!!!
> |
> | Dudley
> |
> |
>
>

[Jim Macklin]

Send the award to POB 12603, 67277




"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
. 121...
| Jim Macklin wrote
| > What I like most about GW is.........
|
| Great post Jim! Just won the "Troll of the Year Award".
|
| Bob Moore

[Jim Macklin]

See is solidly pro-Second Amendment because she knows first
hand about self-defense and political power. That means she
is OK on all issues, from taxes to national defense.



--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
|> GW should appoint Condi as VP. That
| > would make Condi the most qualified person to run for
| > President in 2008. I like her.
|
| Agreed -- but what, exactly, are her politics?
|
| In typical diplomatic fashion, Condi Rice plays that
pretty tight.
| She's definitely a bright, classy lady -- but I'm hard
pressed to tell
| you what she stands for...or against. And I think she
want it that
| way...for now.
|
| The next presidential election will be interesting, to say
the least.
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|

[Jim Macklin]

And don't forget about Ken Hamblin!



"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
|
| "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
|
oups.com...
| >> GW should appoint Condi as VP. That
| >> would make Condi the most qualified person to run for
| >> President in 2008. I like her.
| >
| > Agreed -- but what, exactly, are her politics?
| >
| > In typical diplomatic fashion, Condi Rice plays that
pretty tight.
| > She's definitely a bright, classy lady -- but I'm hard
pressed to tell
| > you what she stands for...or against. And I think she
want it that
| > way...for now.
|
| From what I can tell, she's a moderate Republican, which
means her politics
| are fuzzy in the extreme (of course, it's the same for the
other branches of
| Republicans).
|
| >
| > The next presidential election will be interesting, to
say the least.
|
| I like Condi, but she has ZERO executive experience.
Interestingly, I'd
| really like Tom Sowell or Walter Williams to run, but
neither of them has
| executive experience, either. If guts was the primary
qualification, all
| three would be shoo-ins.
|
|
|

[Jim Macklin]

I have a good friend who is a lawyer. He calls most of the
other lawyers "corporate whores." He is also now a State
Senator and primarily responsible for passage of the new
Kansas CCW law. He may be governor someday. He loves
lawyer jokes, his favorite...
How many lawyers does it take to grease a combine?
Only one, unless he's skinny.

He has an associate who told me this one...
A Boston lawyer was in New Orleans on business, the second
day in town he visited a house of ill repute. The Madam
asked what they could do for him. He replied that he was
looking for a girl.
She said, "That's what we do here, we have lots of lovely
young girls."
He said, "I'm looking for a special girl, blonde, 25, 5 foot
5 inches, 127 pounds, 39-25-37"
"That's sounds like our Charlotte."
"Well trot her out so I can see if she's the girl I'm
looking for."
"I have to warn you, Charlotte is our most popular and
expensive girl, $1,000 an hour."
"The cost doesn't matter if she's the girl I'm looking for."
Well Charlotte was the girl and out lawyer paid the $1,000
and spent an hour with Charlotte. He came back every day
five days in a row to see Charlotte. On the fifth day,
Charlotte said, "Mister, I've had repeat business before,
but nobody comes five days in a row, what is your story?"
"I'm an attorney from Boston.."
"BOSTON, I've got family in Boston!"
"No, not anymore, your grandmother died and left you $5,000"

The moral to this tale, If there is money involved a lawyer
will screw you.


"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
nk.net...
|I have become so totally disgusted and discouraged with the
political
| situation in the United States that the mere mention of
the word lawyer to
| me sends me into a rage. My wife has bought me something
called a bad call
| brick (nerf material) that I can throw with all my might
into the television
| screen every time a lawyer or politician appears. :-)
| I have been reduced to pulling the handle on the voting
machine after
| considering which politician is lying to me and will hurt
my country the
| least.
| I can't even discuss politics any more.
| Dudley
|
| "Jim Macklin" > wrote
in message
| news:8qcag.20860$ZW3.15757@dukeread04...
| > What he said wasn't wrong or improper in any way, except
the
| > news media took the words "major combat" and turned that
| > into "war's over" and they kept repeating it, 24/7.
| >
| > What I like most about GW is that when he needs to be
seen
| > in a "roughing it" setting, he goes to his closet and
gets
| > out a daily work outfit. He'd even looked "right" in
his
| > flight suit on the carrier.
| > But Clinton, Gore et al had to send a rush FedEx
over-night
| > order to LL Bean. I thought they almost looked like
Minnie
| > Pearl with the price tags on the cuffs.
| >
| > I have many complaints against GW, no vetoes,
| > McCain-Feingold lead my list. But I think he is so
honest
| > and open, If I could, I'd vote for him again. But as
I've
| > written the Whitehouse on many occasions, Cheney
{another
| > person I really like] should step down just after the
| > November elections. GW should appoint Condi as VP.
That
| > would make Condi the most qualified person to run for
| > President in 2008. I like her.
| >
| > Jim
| > "Dudley Henriques" > wrote in
message
| >
nk.net...
| > |
| > | "Jim Macklin" >
wrote
| > in message
| > | news:QY9ag.20839$ZW3.11962@dukeread04...
| > |
| > | >I just wish he'd said "We won't be flying bombers
from
| > | > Missouri to Iraq on a daily basis, you guys got the
| > | > immediate job done, now we win the peace.,"
| > |
| > | Boy, if you only knew how many times I've echoed that
| > sentiment!!!
| > |
| > | Dudley
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

[Matt Barrow]

"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>I have become so totally disgusted and discouraged with the political
>situation in the United States that the mere mention of the word lawyer to
>me sends me into a rage. My wife has bought me something called a bad call
>brick (nerf material) that I can throw with all my might into the
>television screen every time a lawyer or politician appears. :-)

DO NOT CLEAN FIREARMS while watching TV.

> I have been reduced to pulling the handle on the voting machine after
> considering which politician is lying to me and will hurt my country the
> least.
> I can't even discuss politics any more.
> Dudley

2004 was the first year I declined to vote since I turned eighteen. I refuse
to sanction any of the hucksters that plead "public service" (Don't ****
down my back and tell me it's raining).

[Matt Barrow]

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:Ybmag.21652$ZW3.5577@dukeread04...
> And don't forget about Ken Hamblin!
>

Ken Hamblin is a phoney! HE got bounced from his newspaper job in Denver for
plagerizing material, then was making up copious loads of BS for his radio
show (such as voting for JFK in 1960, when he was not yet 20 years old).

Sowell and Williams are highly intelligent, knowledgeable and articulate.
They both have a great grasp at how things really work and are not afraid to
call a spade a spade.

Other than for scholarship work, they've never run anything larger than a
college department. Of course, most of our presidential candidates are from
the Senate and have run nothing even that large.


> "Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
> ...
> | I like Condi, but she has ZERO executive experience.
> Interestingly, I'd
> | really like Tom Sowell or Walter Williams to run, but
> neither of them has
> | executive experience, either. If guts was the primary
> qualification, all
> | three would be shoo-ins.

[Matt Barrow]

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:Xbmag.21651$ZW3.19490@dukeread04...
> See is solidly pro-Second Amendment because she knows first
> hand about self-defense and political power. That means she
> is OK on all issues, from taxes to national defense.

And the reverse would be John McCain?

Ain't so easy!

>
> --
> James H. Macklin
> ATP,CFI,A&P

[Jim Macklin]

I think McCain suffered some brain-washing while in VN, he
hasn't been on my A,B or C list for a long time. He
supports gun control, does not support free speech. He
performed heroically on the carrier after the explosion and
fire [don't remember the carrier name off hand, the film is
spectacular and very scary]. But since his return, he has
been a loose cannon.

Almost every politician speaks of "support for the Second
Amendment and hunters" but many vote otherwise. I have
found that with one exception, solidly pro-gun, Second
Amendment supporters are reasonable and will listen about
all other issues, the anti-gun people have their minds made
up on a whole range of subjects in way that I find
objectionable.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
|
| "Jim Macklin" > wrote
in message
| news:Xbmag.21651$ZW3.19490@dukeread04...
| > See is solidly pro-Second Amendment because she knows
first
| > hand about self-defense and political power. That means
she
| > is OK on all issues, from taxes to national defense.
|
| And the reverse would be John McCain?
|
| Ain't so easy!
|
| >
| > --
| > James H. Macklin
| > ATP,CFI,A&P
|
|

[Skywise]

"Matt Barrow" > wrote in
:

<Snipola>
> 2004 was the first year I declined to vote since I turned eighteen. I
> refuse to sanction any of the hucksters that plead "public service"
> (Don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining).

I agree. I've given up voting as well. I do not believe in "vote
for the lesser of two evils". When there's someone worth my vote,
then I'll vote for them.

I think we should take a clue from "Brewsters Millions" and add
a "none of the above" category that get's counted. I guarantee
you that the NOTA category would win by a landslide...hmmm...
landslide might not be a big enough word. It would dramatically
demonstrate the lack of confidence we have in those running for
office.

And no, a write in is not acceptable either, as a write in
candidate must be a "valid" candidate already. Write in candidates
also don't get put on the ballot in every state, so in reality they
have no chance of ever winning anyway.

Writing in a candidate that has not been previously validated, such
as "mickey mouse" gets your ballot thrown away and completely
uncounted. It's the same as having never voted.

Brian
--
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Jim Macklin wrote:
> He had to be a pretty good stick in order to fly those early
> Century Series fighters.

Yup, by all accounts he was. Makes it all the more mystifying
trying to figure out why he decided to stop showing up. (Shrug)

-Jay-

[Matt Barrow]

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Jim Macklin wrote:
>> He had to be a pretty good stick in order to fly those early
>> Century Series fighters.
>
> Yup, by all accounts he was. Makes it all the more mystifying
> trying to figure out why he decided to stop showing up. (Shrug)
>
The mystery is why, after it's been thoroughly researched and documented,
you missed the answer. Well, hell, ignorance is certainly convenient.

[mike regish]

Honest stupidity is still stupidity.

mike

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:8qcag.20860

> But I think he is so honest
> and open, If I could, I'd vote for him again.

[Jim Macklin]

As I understand, the F102s were being retired. Bush was
about to reach discharge, he had flown all the expected
hours and done all the days. He would not be trained for
another aircraft, he took the discharge.


> wrote in message
ups.com...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| > He had to be a pretty good stick in order to fly those
early
| > Century Series fighters.
|
| Yup, by all accounts he was. Makes it all the more
mystifying
| trying to figure out why he decided to stop showing up.
(Shrug)
|
| -Jay-
|

[.Blueskies.]

> wrote in message ups.com...
> Jim Macklin wrote:
>> He had to be a pretty good stick in order to fly those early
>> Century Series fighters.
>
> Yup, by all accounts he was. Makes it all the more mystifying
> trying to figure out why he decided to stop showing up. (Shrug)
>
> -Jay-
>

To much partying...

[Matt Barrow]

".Blueskies." > wrote in message
t...
>
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> Jim Macklin wrote:
>>> He had to be a pretty good stick in order to fly those early
>>> Century Series fighters.
>>
>> Yup, by all accounts he was. Makes it all the more mystifying
>> trying to figure out why he decided to stop showing up. (Shrug)
>>
>> -Jay-
>>
>
> To much partying...

Haven't been around military pilots much, huh?

[Dudley Henriques]

"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
>
> ".Blueskies." > wrote in message
> t...
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>>> Jim Macklin wrote:
>>>> He had to be a pretty good stick in order to fly those early
>>>> Century Series fighters.
>>>
>>> Yup, by all accounts he was. Makes it all the more mystifying
>>> trying to figure out why he decided to stop showing up. (Shrug)
>>>
>>> -Jay-
>>>
>>
>> To much partying...
>
> Haven't been around military pilots much, huh?

Never drink and fly a fighter. Pull off to the side of the taxiway and
drink......THEN go fly!!!

Dudley Henriques

[Jay Honeck]

> I have become so totally disgusted and discouraged with the political
> situation in the United States that the mere mention of the word lawyer to
> me sends me into a rage.

Agree 100%.

After age 60, my father NEVER voted for incumbents of either party.
The idea was to keep new, fresh people in office -- and get 'em out
before they were corrupted.

I, of course, thought he was nuts, and argued that this only fed the
ever-increasing power of the permanent bureacracy. I am now prepared
to admit (some 13 years after his passing) that he was completely,
absolutely correct.

Another thing he advocated: A divided government. If you had a
Democratic Congress, make sure you had a Republican president -- and
vice versa.

I, of course, again thought he was nuts. I am now prepared to admit
that he was, once again, 100% correct. All you have to do is look at
the cluster-f*ck we've got going on in Washington to realize that
having both branches of the federal government (I'm not counting the
courts -- that's another issue) controlled by a single party is a very,
very bad idea. It shouldn't be -- but it is.

The Republicans have proven that they are incapable of governing, in
much the same way that the Democrats proved their incompetence when
they had complete dominance of the Federal Government. Therefore, for
the first time in my life, I am faced with the very real possibility of
voting for a Democrat in the fall -- or not voting at all.

It's disgusting, but I don't see any alternative.
--
Jay Honeck
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[Matt Barrow]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Another thing he advocated: A divided government. If you had a
> Democratic Congress, make sure you had a Republican president -- and
> vice versa.
>
> I, of course, again thought he was nuts. I am now prepared to admit
> that he was, once again, 100% correct. All you have to do is look at
> the cluster-f*ck we've got going on in Washington to realize that
> having both branches of the federal government (I'm not counting the
> courts -- that's another issue) controlled by a single party is a very,
> very bad idea. It shouldn't be -- but it is.
>
> The Republicans have proven that they are incapable of governing, in
> much the same way that the Democrats proved their incompetence when
> they had complete dominance of the Federal Government. Therefore, for
> the first time in my life, I am faced with the very real possibility of
> voting for a Democrat in the fall -- or not voting at all.
>
> It's disgusting, but I don't see any alternative.

Thought: Democrats had both house of Congress for all but two years from
1954 to 1995. During that time, they had both Congress and the White House
for 14 years. All 14 fo those from 1961 to 1994.

The R's, now have had both Congress and the WH for five years. So, when were
the foundation for the present cluster-f*$k laid out?

Recall, too, that FDR did his big power grabs during a time the Republicans
had Congress.

Then, too, "Ain't a dimes worth of difference" holds true, especially when
referring to statists.

Finally, all the bozo's were put into office via election by your friends
and neighbors (lining up at the trough).

[[email protected]]

What a surprise here... Those who seem to support W's politics also
believe he was a good pilot. Thos 'liberals' who dislike W as a
president seem to dismiss his previous services to our country and his
skills as a (F102) pilot.

I'm going to go against the grain... If W really flew F102's, and
lived to (not) tell about it, then I give him all the credit in the
world for being an accomplished and brave pilot. But I still contend
that W is a lousy president.

[Ron Garret]

In article om>,
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> I don't see any alternative.

Try opening your eyes:

http://www.iwantachoice.com/parties.html

rg

[Skywise]

Ron Garret > wrote in news:rNOSPAMon-
:

> In article om>,
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
>
>> I don't see any alternative.
>
> Try opening your eyes:
>
> http://www.iwantachoice.com/parties.html
>
> rg

How about no party at all? You do know that there was argument
among the Founding Fathers against partisan politics?
See, Federalist No. 10.

Brian
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[Matt Barrow]

"Skywise" > wrote in message
...
> Ron Garret > wrote in news:rNOSPAMon-
> :
>
>> In article om>,
>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see any alternative.
>>
>> Try opening your eyes:
>>
>> http://www.iwantachoice.com/parties.html
>>
>> rg
>
> How about no party at all? You do know that there was argument
> among the Founding Fathers against partisan politics?
> See, Federalist No. 10.
>
That does it! I'm joining the Whigs.

[.Blueskies.]

"Ron Garret" > wrote in message ...
> In article om>,
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
>
>> I don't see any alternative.
>
> Try opening your eyes:
>
> http://www.iwantachoice.com/parties.html
>
> rg

Yup, and they are very rarely covered in the press, and folks seem to believe the "throwing away your vote" argument
often heard. The only person I can remember making some sort of dent in the dem/republic machine was Perot. Pretty
strange what a one party, oh I mean two party monopoly will cause...

[Jim Logajan]

".Blueskies." > wrote:
> "Ron Garret" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article om>,
>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see any alternative.
>>
>> Try opening your eyes:
>>
>> http://www.iwantachoice.com/parties.html
>>
>> rg
>
> Yup, and they are very rarely covered in the press, and folks seem to
> believe the "throwing away your vote" argument often heard. The only
> person I can remember making some sort of dent in the dem/republic
> machine was Perot. Pretty strange what a one party, oh I mean two
> party monopoly will cause...

People generally vote for candidates, not parties. If a third party could
field a well known centrist candidate and if it had the funds, they would
have a good chance to take the White House. On the local level third party
candidates do get voted into office. Jesse Ventura, a third party
candidate, is one well known example of people voting for a candidate and
disregarding party affiliation.