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Eric Bartsch
May 20th 06, 12:43 PM
I'm starting to get prepared for my first flight into Oshkosh this
Summer (arrived by ground several times before). As I read through the
Notam, it looks like I'm either on the high speed end of the normal
Fisk/Ripon arrival (plane doesn't like flying below 90-100kt unless it
involves descending) or I'm on the slow end of the Warbirds arrival
(they require min cruise speed of 130kts and I typically get 135 to 140
kts). (and yes I am in a warbird so I would qualify for that arrival)

So the question is, am I better off arriving over Fisk and taking the
2300' MSL arrival for 135kt aircraft, or am I better off coming in on
the warbirds arrival and getting sequenced with traffic that may be
moving quite a bit faster. I'm assuming there is a lot of 200kt+
traffic from Fond DuLac to Warbird Island.

Anyone with experience on both arrivals with recommendations? With gear
& flaps down I can decelerate and drop like a rock for the final
approach or an overhead approach (much different descent profile than
the typical Cessna or Piper).

Thanks,
Eric Bartsch
1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848
http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/P3A848.html

john smith
May 20th 06, 01:33 PM
Do the Warbird Arrival.
You qualify, even if you feel you are not fast enough.
They will handle you, regardless.
For your first time, you will have less stress.
Once you have been there and watched the arrivals and departures, you
will be knowledgable about how to fly the RIPON Arrival safely.

Eric Bartsch
May 21st 06, 01:42 PM
Thanks for the feedback. I have visions of either being sequenced
behind a J-3 Cub on the RIPON arrival, or being in front of a Mig-15 on
the Warbirds one. Neither one would be a particularly good match of
speeds, although I'm probably closer to the Mig's approach speed than
the J-3.

Eric

Jim Macklin
May 21st 06, 01:56 PM
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"Eric Bartsch" > wrote in message
oups.com...
| Thanks for the feedback. I have visions of either being
sequenced
| behind a J-3 Cub on the RIPON arrival, or being in front
of a Mig-15 on
| the Warbirds one. Neither one would be a particularly good
match of
| speeds, although I'm probably closer to the Mig's approach
speed than
| the J-3.
|
| Eric
|

Eric Bartsch
May 21st 06, 03:15 PM
> http://www.airventure.org/2006/planning/admission.html
>
>--
>James H. Macklin
>ATP,CFI,A&P

Not sure if this is the link you intended to send. This one deals with
admission & registration vs. approaches. (already pre-registered for
arrivals in the warbirds parking)

Thanks,
Eric

Jim Macklin
May 21st 06, 03:27 PM
All the links are on that page, just read the sidebar on the
left side.


"Eric Bartsch" > wrote in message
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|> http://www.airventure.org/2006/planning/admission.html
| >
| >--
| >James H. Macklin
| >ATP,CFI,A&P
|
| Not sure if this is the link you intended to send. This
one deals with
| admission & registration vs. approaches. (already
pre-registered for
| arrivals in the warbirds parking)
|
| Thanks,
| Eric
|

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