Air & Space, June/July 2006

[john smith]

One would think a premier aviation publication such as Air & Space would
get basic facts correct.

Page 13, In Memoriam, paragraph one...
"...Scott Crossfieldk 84 was killed las April when flying his
twin-engine Cessna 210A..."

[Kyle Boatright]

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> One would think a premier aviation publication such as Air & Space would
> get basic facts correct.
>
> Page 13, In Memoriam, paragraph one...
> "...Scott Crossfieldk 84 was killed las April when flying his
> twin-engine Cessna 210A..."

The 1/2 page article also referenced the movie "The Right Stuff", where the
article stated "In the film, the X-15 shakes violently as it approaches Mach
2..." Um, sorry Sparky, the X-15 didn't appear in the movie. I'm surprised
either error got past the editor.

Kind of sad to make two factual errors in a 1/2 page article.

[FLAV8R]

"Kyle Boatright" > wrote in message
...
>
> "john smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> One would think a premier aviation publication such as Air & Space would
>> get basic facts correct.
>>
>> Page 13, In Memoriam, paragraph one...
>> "...Scott Crossfieldk 84 was killed las April when flying his
>> twin-engine Cessna 210A..."
>
> The 1/2 page article also referenced the movie "The Right Stuff", where
> the article stated "In the film, the X-15 shakes violently as it
> approaches Mach 2..." Um, sorry Sparky, the X-15 didn't appear in the
> movie. I'm surprised either error got past the editor.
>
> Kind of sad to make two factual errors in a 1/2 page article.
>
Well if Air & Space is anything like the rest of corporate America and
like the company I work for, then they have outsourced their magazine
to India where they may or may not get the facts straight.

David - Any typos are not necessarily the fault of responder due to
outsourcing this
response was not sent out be me.

[Bryan]

Kyle Boatright wrote:

> "john smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > One would think a premier aviation publication such as Air & Space would
> > get basic facts correct.
> >
> > Page 13, In Memoriam, paragraph one...
> > "...Scott Crossfieldk 84 was killed las April when flying his
> > twin-engine Cessna 210A..."
>
> The 1/2 page article also referenced the movie "The Right Stuff", where the
> article stated "In the film, the X-15 shakes violently as it approaches Mach
> 2..." Um, sorry Sparky, the X-15 didn't appear in the movie. I'm surprised
> either error got past the editor.

I had the pleasure of meeting Scott Crossfield almost a year ago. He mentioned
that he had never seen the film, The Right Stuff, and had no intention of ever
doing so, as he found out that there were so many inaccuracies in its
portrayal. He did mention the book was fairly accurate. I did see the Right
Stuff film and thought it was kind of cheesy all around, but it was nice that
Hollywood was paying attention to the efforts of the great test pilots.

He also referred to the "Best selling author and humorist Chuck Yeager." :)

[Jim Burns]

Ok, here's my "outsource" story of the week...
We pack our packages of potatoes on pallets, an industry sorespot. So some
chain stores request Chep pallets... the blue pallets that come from Chep
Co, a pallet rental company which is based in Australia, but has operations
world wide... So the other day I order a load of pallets from them....

It is scheduled to load in Quebec, Canada and the dispatcher calls me
speaking broken French...

He conferences me with a truckdriver, who is obviously Indian...

So, I get Australian pallets from Canada through a guy that speaks French,
hauled to me by a guy from India just so my Mexican employees can pack
potatoes on them because my American customer is afraid that his American
customers or employees might injure themselves on a cheap American pallet
and get sued by a high priced American lawyer.

The whole thing sounds totally anti-American, but it looks like the rest of
the world is getting rich from it!

Jim


"FLAV8R" > wrote in message > Well if Air & Space
is anything like the rest of corporate America and
> like the company I work for, then they have outsourced their magazine
> to India where they may or may not get the facts straight.
>
> David - Any typos are not necessarily the fault of responder due to
> outsourcing this
> response was not sent out be me.
>
>

[Steve Foley]

Hey, In the previous issue they said I was flying a Cessna 150 with a 1/4
keg of beer, when in fact it was a Cherokee 140 with a 1/2 keg.

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> One would think a premier aviation publication such as Air & Space would
> get basic facts correct.
>
> Page 13, In Memoriam, paragraph one...
> "...Scott Crossfieldk 84 was killed las April when flying his
> twin-engine Cessna 210A..."

[.Blueskies.]

"Steve Foley" > wrote in message
...
> Hey, In the previous issue they said I was flying a Cessna 150 with a 1/4 keg of beer, when in fact it was a Cherokee
> 140 with a 1/2 keg.
>


was that the single engine 140 or the twin?

[Jay Honeck]

> The whole thing sounds totally anti-American, but it looks like the rest
> of
> the world is getting rich from it!

Hilarious!

So why can't we (Americans, that is) make our *own* fancy pallets? Surely
it's got to be cheaper to make them here, than to ship them from Australia,
via Canada?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Skywise]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in news:VJhcg.984538$xm3.569579
@attbi_s21:

>> The whole thing sounds totally anti-American, but it looks like the rest
>> of
>> the world is getting rich from it!
>
> Hilarious!
>
> So why can't we (Americans, that is) make our *own* fancy pallets? Surely
> it's got to be cheaper to make them here, than to ship them from Australia,
> via Canada?

Cuz there'd probably have to be some union (carpentry?) demanding 20 bucks
an hour to start, two weeks paid vacation, medical/dental/vision coverage
for the whole family, all federal holidays off (and a few foreign ones as
well), 10 (or more) sick days/year...paid, full retirement benefits for
life at 100% last payrate, etc....etc....etc....

Brian
--
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[Dave Stadt]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:VJhcg.984538$xm3.569579@attbi_s21...
>> The whole thing sounds totally anti-American, but it looks like the rest
>> of
>> the world is getting rich from it!
>
> Hilarious!
>
> So why can't we (Americans, that is) make our *own* fancy pallets? Surely
> it's got to be cheaper to make them here, than to ship them from
> Australia, via Canada?

It's cheaper to build and ship just about everything else so why not
pallets.

> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Dave Stadt]

"Skywise" > wrote in message
...
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
> news:VJhcg.984538$xm3.569579
> @attbi_s21:
>
>>> The whole thing sounds totally anti-American, but it looks like the rest
>>> of
>>> the world is getting rich from it!
>>
>> Hilarious!
>>
>> So why can't we (Americans, that is) make our *own* fancy pallets?
>> Surely
>> it's got to be cheaper to make them here, than to ship them from
>> Australia,
>> via Canada?
>
> Cuz there'd probably have to be some union (carpentry?) demanding 20 bucks
> an hour to start, two weeks paid vacation, medical/dental/vision coverage
> for the whole family, all federal holidays off (and a few foreign ones as
> well), 10 (or more) sick days/year...paid, full retirement benefits for
> life at 100% last payrate, etc....etc....etc....
>
> Brian

And when there were no pallets to build he would still demand a pay check
just like Ford and GM employees.


> --
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> Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
> Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
> Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

[Skywise]

"Dave Stadt" > wrote in news:sjscg.75992$F_3.21528
@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:

<Snipola>
> And when there were no pallets to build he would still demand a pay check
> just like Ford and GM employees.

I knew I forgot one!!!

Yep. We've got no one else to blame but ourselves.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
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[Matt Barrow]

"Dave Stadt" > wrote in message
. net...
>
> "Skywise" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>> news:VJhcg.984538$xm3.569579
>>> Hilarious!
>>>
>>> So why can't we (Americans, that is) make our *own* fancy pallets?
>>> Surely
>>> it's got to be cheaper to make them here, than to ship them from
>>> Australia,
>>> via Canada?
>>
>> Cuz there'd probably have to be some union (carpentry?) demanding 20
>> bucks
>> an hour to start, two weeks paid vacation, medical/dental/vision coverage
>> for the whole family, all federal holidays off (and a few foreign ones as
>> well), 10 (or more) sick days/year...paid, full retirement benefits for
>> life at 100% last payrate, etc....etc....etc....

And the union would want five guys on the crew: one to hold the nail, one to
hold the hammer, one to hold the wood, one guy to supervise and another to
take notes.

If one of the crew didn't show up, they'd stand around for the whole day
with their fingers up their butts.

>>
>> Brian
>
> And when there were no pallets to build he would still demand a pay check
> just like Ford and GM employees.
>
And let's not forget the OSHA regulations...