The MYTT (Massive Yet Tiny) Engine

[Harbin]

Found this, thought some might be interested:

The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken by Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine. Inspired by drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus on power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the today's automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over 3,000 ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!

The MYTT (Massive Yet Tiny) Engine, is a breakthrough of immense
proportions that will spawn the next industrial revolution and will rocket the internal
combustion engine into the next millennium. Please spread the word.

http://www.angellabsllc.com/


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[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
"Harbin" > wrote:

> Found this, thought some might be interested:
>
> The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken by
> Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine. Inspired by
> drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus on
> power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the today's
> automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a
> revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over 3,000
> ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!
>
> The MYTT (Massive Yet Tiny) Engine, is a breakthrough of immense
> proportions that will spawn the next industrial revolution and will rocket
> the internal
> combustion engine into the next millennium. Please spread the word.
>
> http://www.angellabsllc.com/

I reviewed the website and found no mention of specific fuel consumption
(sfc), so we really do not have enough data to draw conclusions,
although the weight sounds too good to be true! (150 lb for 850 hp).

That would make your hair curl in an average homebuilt!

[Harry K]

Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> In article >,
> "Harbin" > wrote:
>
> > Found this, thought some might be interested:
> >
> > The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken by
> > Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine. Inspired by
> > drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus on
> > power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the today's
> > automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a
> > revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over 3,000
> > ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!
> >
> > The MYTT (Massive Yet Tiny) Engine, is a breakthrough of immense
> > proportions that will spawn the next industrial revolution and will rocket
> > the internal
> > combustion engine into the next millennium. Please spread the word.
> >
> > http://www.angellabsllc.com/
>
> I reviewed the website and found no mention of specific fuel consumption
> (sfc), so we really do not have enough data to draw conclusions,
> although the weight sounds too good to be true! (150 lb for 850 hp).
>
> That would make your hair curl in an average homebuilt!

Sounds like vapor ware to me. The claims are so far beyond physics
that it raises my 'doubting Thomas' hackles.

Harry K

[Roger]

On Sun, 21 May 2006 16:29:44 -0700, "Harbin" >
wrote:

>Found this, thought some might be interested:
>
>The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken by Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine. Inspired by drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus on power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the today's automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over 3,000 ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!
>
>The MYTT (Massive Yet Tiny) Engine, is a breakthrough of immense
>proportions that will spawn the next industrial revolution and will rocket the internal
>combustion engine into the next millennium. Please spread the word.
>
>http://www.angellabsllc.com/

OK who's gonna be the first to try it in an airplane?
How's that old saying? If it sounds too good to be true...
Not that I'm a doubter and I'd really like it to be true, but featured
in an "antigravity" magazine?

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

[Roger]

On Mon, 22 May 2006 00:56:35 GMT, Orval Fairbairn
> wrote:

>In article >,
> "Harbin" > wrote:
>
>> Found this, thought some might be interested:
>>
>> The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken by
>> Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine. Inspired by
>> drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus on
>> power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the today's
>> automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a
>> revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over 3,000
>> ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!
>>
>> The MYTT (Massive Yet Tiny) Engine, is a breakthrough of immense
>> proportions that will spawn the next industrial revolution and will rocket
>> the internal
>> combustion engine into the next millennium. Please spread the word.
>>
>> http://www.angellabsllc.com/
>
>I reviewed the website and found no mention of specific fuel consumption
>(sfc), so we really do not have enough data to draw conclusions,
>although the weight sounds too good to be true! (150 lb for 850 hp).
>
>That would make your hair curl in an average homebuilt!

Yah, but think how my G-III would perform even if I did have to add
drop tanks, a fuselage tank and tip tanks. Course then I'd have to
find a longer runway on which to land or fly until I used all the
fuel.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
Roger > wrote:

> On Mon, 22 May 2006 00:56:35 GMT, Orval Fairbairn
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > "Harbin" > wrote:
> >
> >> Found this, thought some might be interested:
> >>
> >> The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken
> >> by
> >> Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine. Inspired
> >> by
> >> drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus on
> >> power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the
> >> today's
> >> automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a
> >> revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over
> >> 3,000
> >> ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!
> >>
> >> The MYTT (Massive Yet Tiny) Engine, is a breakthrough of immense
> >> proportions that will spawn the next industrial revolution and will rocket
> >> the internal
> >> combustion engine into the next millennium. Please spread the word.
> >>
> >> http://www.angellabsllc.com/
> >
> >I reviewed the website and found no mention of specific fuel consumption
> >(sfc), so we really do not have enough data to draw conclusions,
> >although the weight sounds too good to be true! (150 lb for 850 hp).
> >
> >That would make your hair curl in an average homebuilt!
>
> Yah, but think how my G-III would perform even if I did have to add
> drop tanks, a fuselage tank and tip tanks. Course then I'd have to
> find a longer runway on which to land or fly until I used all the
> fuel.
>
> Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
> (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
> www.rogerhalstead.com

And -- you would have to take out a bank loan every time you pulled up
to the gas pump!

[[email protected]]

Clever idea. The high compression ratio diesel cycle looks very
promising. Thermodynamicaly I think it could be pretty impressive.
The website says that mostly the thing has been run on compressed air
at 150 psi. Mechanical construction looks like another story. After
looking over the drawings, I bet there will be horrible strength and
sealing problems with all the monkey motion that has to go on to
sequence the pistons. I hope this guy solves all the problems, but I
sure won't hold my breath.
tom

[Morgans]

"Orval Fairbairn" > wrote

> I reviewed the website and found no mention of specific fuel consumption
> (sfc), so we really do not have enough data to draw conclusions,
> although the weight sounds too good to be true! (150 lb for 850 hp).
>
> That would make your hair curl in an average homebuilt!

Me thinks that auto makers and other big companies would have bought him
out, long ago, if it were really as good as it was proposed.
--
Jim in NC

[Denny]

Besides, the dilithium crystals can't be found at just every corner gas
station, ya know...

denny

[Tater Schuld]

until there is a working prototype, don't bother "sharing" this information

"Harbin" > wrote in message
...
Found this, thought some might be interested:

The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken
by Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine. Inspired
by drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus on
power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the today's
automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a
revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over 3,000
ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!

The MYTT (Massive Yet Tiny) Engine, is a breakthrough of immense
proportions that will spawn the next industrial revolution and will rocket
the internal
combustion engine into the next millennium. Please spread the word.

http://www.angellabsllc.com/


--
SeeYaa:) Harbin Osteen KG6URO

This is YOUR future:
http://halturnershow.com/aztlan_caps.wmv
http://media.putfile.com/La-Gran-Marcha
The Mexican Solution:
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?section=papers&code=06-D_18

-

[Harbin]

Found these other interisting engines:

Cyclone Engine:
http://www.cyclonepower.com/
Pivotal Engine:
http://www.pivotalengine.com/

The Rotoblock is simular to the MYTT:
Rotoblock:
http://www.rotoblock.com/

[Harry K]

Harbin wrote:
> Found these other interisting engines:
>
> Cyclone Engine:
> http://www.cyclonepower.com/
> Pivotal Engine:
> http://www.pivotalengine.com/
>
> The Rotoblock is simular to the MYTT:
> Rotoblock:
> http://www.rotoblock.com/

And they all have the same drawback. Overly complicated, don't live up
to their hype and no working prototype.

You left out the "Quasi Turbin" that at least had a 'working prototype'
if you define the term very loosly.

Someone else said the same thing but it bears repeating.

"get back to us when there is a working prototype"

Harry K

[Tater Schuld]

"Harry K" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Someone else said the same thing but it bears repeating.
>
> "get back to us when there is a working prototype"
>
I did

I have a friend that is always looking for that nutcase with the perpetual
motion device, the 1000mpg car, or 1000kw generators that run on belly
button lint and spam emails. I always counter with

"get back to us when there is a working prototype"

also, anyone who knows of a working antigravity device, FLT drive, or other
space related devices, please let me know.

[Morgans]

"Tater Schuld" > wrote
>
> I have a friend that is always looking for that nutcase with the perpetual
> motion device, the 1000mpg car, or 1000kw generators that run on belly
> button lint and spam emails. I always counter with
>
> "get back to us when there is a working prototype"
>
> also, anyone who knows of a working antigravity device, FLT drive, or
> other space related devices, please let me know.

Boy, if you aren't the pot calling the kettle black.

Seems like _you_ are the one wanting to know why you can't afford to fly
real airplanes on minimum wage jobs, and why aviation, and all things
airplane have to be expensive.

I can sooner see an FTL drive, than cheap aviation.

Oh, that is FTL, instead of FLT, that they use on Battlestar Galactica.
--
Jim in NC

[Roger]

On Wed, 24 May 2006 05:03:33 -0400, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>
>"Tater Schuld" > wrote
>>
>> I have a friend that is always looking for that nutcase with the perpetual
>> motion device, the 1000mpg car, or 1000kw generators that run on belly
>> button lint and spam emails. I always counter with
>>
>> "get back to us when there is a working prototype"
>>
>> also, anyone who knows of a working antigravity device, FLT drive, or
>> other space related devices, please let me know.
>
>Boy, if you aren't the pot calling the kettle black.
>
>Seems like _you_ are the one wanting to know why you can't afford to fly
>real airplanes on minimum wage jobs, and why aviation, and all things
>airplane have to be expensive.
>
>I can sooner see an FTL drive, than cheap aviation.

They will happen at roughtly the same time.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>
>Oh, that is FTL, instead of FLT, that they use on Battlestar Galactica.

[Tater Schuld]

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tater Schuld" > wrote
>>
>> also, anyone who knows of a working antigravity device, FLT drive, or
>> other space related devices, please let me know.
>
> Boy, if you aren't the pot calling the kettle black.

yeah sometimes it looks that way

> Seems like _you_ are the one wanting to know why you can't afford to fly
> real airplanes on minimum wage jobs, and why aviation, and all things
> airplane have to be expensive.

this is my counter to all the people who complain that GA is dying, airports
are closing, towers are beign unattended and the other slew of issues that
crop up here.

you noticed i haven't mentioned looking for GA on a minimum wage budget
recently.

I mean cripes, most complain that about GA dying but dont offer any outlet
to those who do not want to devote their whole life savings to fly.

EAA's sport aviation is even more out of touch, with articles about owners
with multiple planes.

> I can sooner see an FTL drive, than cheap aviation.

unless someone can find a way of getting the complexity down, i agree.

> Oh, that is FTL, instead of FLT, that they use on Battlestar Galactica.

you know, I swear I corrected it when I sent it.

[Big John]

Tater

Been working on AG for years. All on paper. Some of my PHD friends
just shake theii heads as proposal is way out of the box :o)

As the state of the art progresses in area I am working in, it is a
possibility a lab device could be operational before I die???

I have several patents in the Oil Industry so know that rabbit trail
and where it leads with new ideas :o)

Big John
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 01:26:17 -0500, "Tater Schuld"
> wrote:

>
>"Harry K" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>>
>> Someone else said the same thing but it bears repeating.
>>
>> "get back to us when there is a working prototype"
>>
>I did
>
>I have a friend that is always looking for that nutcase with the perpetual
>motion device, the 1000mpg car, or 1000kw generators that run on belly
>button lint and spam emails. I always counter with
>
>"get back to us when there is a working prototype"
>
>also, anyone who knows of a working antigravity device, FLT drive, or other
>space related devices, please let me know.
>

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I'm reminded of a single word: FANTASTIC! BTW that is also the word
one senior scientist should have used in his discussion with a senior
admiral. The other two words: Bull ****, got him fired.

--
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Experimental Helo magazine
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"Tater Schuld" > wrote in message
...
> until there is a working prototype, don't bother "sharing" this
information
>
> "Harbin" > wrote in message
> ...
> Found this, thought some might be interested:
>
> The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken
> by Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine.
Inspired
> by drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus
on
> power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the
today's
> automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a
> revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over
3,000
> ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!
>
> The MYTT (Massive Yet Tiny) Engine, is a breakthrough of immense
> proportions that will spawn the next industrial revolution and will rocket
> the internal
> combustion engine into the next millennium. Please spread the word.
>
> http://www.angellabsllc.com/
>
>
> --
> SeeYaa:) Harbin Osteen KG6URO
>
> This is YOUR future:
> http://halturnershow.com/aztlan_caps.wmv
> http://media.putfile.com/La-Gran-Marcha
> The Mexican Solution:
>
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?section=papers&code=06-D_18
>
> -
>
>

[Rob Turk]

"Denny" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Besides, the dilithium crystals can't be found at just every corner gas
> station, ya know...
>
> denny

Well, the bright side of this is that the drawings for the flux capacitor
currently reside in the public domain, so all we need now is 1.21 GigaWatt
and a bit of plutonium..

Rob

[[email protected]]

Speaking of vaporware, whatever happened to the Rand Cam engine ? (
and the Rad cam engine? )

Neal


Harry K wrote:
> Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "Harbin" > wrote:
> >
> > > Found this, thought some might be interested:
> > >
> > > The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken by
> > > Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine. Inspired by
> > > drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus on
> > > power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the today's
> > > automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a
> > > revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over 3,000
> > > ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!
> > >
> > > The MYTT (Massive Yet Tiny) Engine, is a breakthrough of immense
> > > proportions that will spawn the next industrial revolution and will rocket
> > > the internal
> > > combustion engine into the next millennium. Please spread the word.
> > >
> > > http://www.angellabsllc.com/
> >
> > I reviewed the website and found no mention of specific fuel consumption
> > (sfc), so we really do not have enough data to draw conclusions,
> > although the weight sounds too good to be true! (150 lb for 850 hp).
> >
> > That would make your hair curl in an average homebuilt!
>
> Sounds like vapor ware to me. The claims are so far beyond physics
> that it raises my 'doubting Thomas' hackles.
>
> Harry K