Airframe finishing and tooling

[nondem]

Hello again and thanks to everyone who gave suggestions on my search
for which aircraft to build. My shop is ready and I'm buying materials
this week to kick things off.
I've got some questions on how to properly prepare and work with the
aluminum I use in constructing my plane.

First: I know I need to sand/finish the cuts and holes I make on the
6061-T6 stock I use. The question is to what level. I know rough edges
are points of stress and should be removed. The question is what is
considered "rough?"
Like to what grit size sandpaper to work my way up to? Steel wool at
the end? I ask because the thousands of tiny scratches that even fine
sandpaper leaves could still be called a rough edge in some context.
Second: From what I read - the aluminum I use will be anodized which is
a process I know a little about - enough to know that any place it gets
drilled or cut will leave an un-anodized surface exposed to the
elements. What is the "Proper" way to protect these places?

If it matters - my plane will be stored in North Florida approximately
20 miles from the ocean so there won't be constant salt-spray involved,
but I do envision flights along the beach etc and I also have a large
fresh-water lake near my house that would make a great airport for my
eventually pontoon-equipped plane.

Lastly: What is the 'ideal' 3/8" drill bit and cutting lube to use for
drilling 6061-T6 in .125" plate and 2" square x .125" tubing? There are
only a few sizes that I'll be using on this project so I'm interested
in a "cost is no object" brand/type that would be best.

[GeorgeB]

On 22 May 2006 07:01:44 -0700, "nondem" > wrote:

>First: I know I need to sand/finish the cuts and holes I make on the
>6061-T6 stock I use. The question is to what level. I know rough edges
>are points of stress and should be removed. The question is what is
>considered "rough?"
>Like to what grit size sandpaper to work my way up to? Steel wool at
>the end? I ask because the thousands of tiny scratches that even fine
>sandpaper leaves could still be called a rough edge in some context.

In MY opinion, a fine file and a radiused edge. Depending on the
thickness, the hand deburring tools leave GREAT finishes.

>Second: From what I read - the aluminum I use will be anodized which is
>a process I know a little about - enough to know that any place it gets
>drilled or cut will leave an un-anodized surface exposed to the
>elements. What is the "Proper" way to protect these places?

Anodizing is a great non-structural finish. When it cracks, and it is
brittle, those tiny scratches you mention above are mild in
comparison. I don't like to anodize for structural appliations.
Definitely do not "hard cote" or hard anodize; the thickness really
will cause stress risers in whatever cracks occur.

>Lastly: What is the 'ideal' 3/8" drill bit and cutting lube to use for
>drilling 6061-T6 in .125" plate and 2" square x .125" tubing? There are
>only a few sizes that I'll be using on this project so I'm interested
>in a "cost is no object" brand/type that would be best.

There will be some who laugh here, but if you are rigid (stiff drill
press or mill), I like solid carbide, positive rake, at HIGH speeds. I
did some work some years back at 4000 rpm, 1/2" diameter, power feed
to pull a 0.003" or 0.005" chip per tooth. At your thickness, no lube
is required. We used high velocity air as the coolant on drill-mill
applications. Watching the table move was scary; note that we were
making 8000 cuts (0.005") per minute, so 40 inch per minute feed. We'd
have been through your plate in less than a quarter-second.

At lower speeds and feeds, our prototype shop machinist loved to spray
isopropal alcholol as the coolant/lube. I was surprised it worked as
well as it did; he gave glass-smooth finishes, as did the production
tooling above.

Note: CHIPS FLY!.

[nondem]

Thanks for the info - I just realized I was wrong thinking the 6061-T6
came already anodized. I've been reading so many specifications I got
them mixed up.
I won't be anodizing....

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article om>,
"nondem" > wrote:

> Thanks for the info - I just realized I was wrong thinking the 6061-T6
> came already anodized. I've been reading so many specifications I got
> them mixed up.
> I won't be anodizing....

Do NOT use steel wool on aluminum! It will leave tiny bits of steel
embedded in the surface and will induce electrolytic corrosion!

Why 6061? Most aircraft sheet metal is 2024 T-3 Alclad; structural is
2024 T-3 plate.

[nondem]

The plane design I'm building uses 2x2x.125" 6061-T6 for the fuselage
frame. I did notice that older versions of the same plans specified
6063-T351.


I checked the specs on both and as I remember the 6061 is a stronger
alloy. There is almost no aluminum sheet used in this design
either...Just angles/square and round tubing for the most part.

[cavelamb]

nondem wrote:
> The plane design I'm building uses 2x2x.125" 6061-T6 for the fuselage
> frame. I did notice that older versions of the same plans specified
> 6063-T351.
>
>
> I checked the specs on both and as I remember the 6061 is a stronger
> alloy. There is almost no aluminum sheet used in this design
> either...Just angles/square and round tubing for the most part.
>

That sounds a lot like one of the late Graham Lee's UL designs.

Close?

Richard

[nondem]

It's an Affordaplane...

[Morgans]

"nondem" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> It's an Affordaplane...

Short for VaporWare.

See any fly at national flyins yet?
--
Jim in NC

[Jim Logajan]

"Morgans" > wrote:
>
> "nondem" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> It's an Affordaplane...
>
> Short for VaporWare.

When nondem first mentioned it, I did a Google search for it. There is a
web site for it, even has pictures showing the ultralight in the air:

http://affordaplane.com/

[nondem]

Yea, I just laid out the fuselage so I'll be at next years fly-in :)

[Morgans]

"Jim Logajan" > wrote in message .
>
> When nondem first mentioned it, I did a Google search for it. There is a
> web site for it, even has pictures showing the ultralight in the air:
>
> http://affordaplane.com/

Excuse Me!

I thought this was the guy that popped up her a couple years ago, that was
going to build "modular" planes. Kinda like folding up cardboard boxes.
Yuck!
--
Jim in NC