82 UL Fuel

[floater]

82UL was developed several years ago, to be easily produced from
automotive fuel. Instead of being produce by only one or two
manufacturers as 100LL is, 82UL could be made by any oil company. This
should make it cheaper to produce. 82UL is NOT a replacement for 100LL.
It is my understanding that about 30% of the general aviation fleet
requires 100LL to prevent detonation, but the other 70% can use 82UL.
With the cost of fuel these days, if 82UL is significantly cheaper than
100LL, it's availability might save general aviation.

With the new various laws requiring ethanol in automotive fuel, it seems
it would be more important than ever that 82UL be produced for the
aviation market.

Yet after all these years 82UL has yet to show up anywhere. What does it
take to get this fuel produced and available to aviators? Does it have
to come from the demand side, by making pilots aware of it's existence,
so they can start to ask for it? Why isn't EAA doing more to see that
this fuel gets produced and made available?

[Stealth Pilot]

On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:49:05 GMT, floater >
wrote:


>Yet after all these years 82UL has yet to show up anywhere. What does it
>take to get this fuel produced and available to aviators? Does it have
>to come from the demand side, by making pilots aware of it's existence,
>so they can start to ask for it? Why isn't EAA doing more to see that
>this fuel gets produced and made available?

that question is easy to answer.
since you appreciate the need you need to build a refinery to produce
it.
be the first and you'll be able to sell it to the other EAA members.
Stealth Pilot

[floater]

> On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:49:05 GMT, floater >
> wrote:
>
>>Yet after all these years 82UL has yet to show up anywhere. What does it
>>take to get this fuel produced and available to aviators? Does it have
>>to come from the demand side, by making pilots aware of it's existence,
>>so they can start to ask for it? Why isn't EAA doing more to see that
>>this fuel gets produced and made available?
>
Stealth Pilot wrote:
>
> that question is easy to answer.
> since you appreciate the need you need to build a refinery to produce
> it.
> be the first and you'll be able to sell it to the other EAA members.
> Stealth Pilot

"82UL was developed several years ago, to be easily produced from
automotive fuel. Instead of being produce by only one or two
manufacturers as 100LL is, 82UL could be made by any oil company. This
should make it cheaper to produce."

[Peter Dohm]

"floater" > wrote in message
news:lDZcg.8066$Ar6.1873@trnddc02...
>
> > On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:49:05 GMT, floater >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Yet after all these years 82UL has yet to show up anywhere. What does it
> >>take to get this fuel produced and available to aviators? Does it have
> >>to come from the demand side, by making pilots aware of it's existence,
> >>so they can start to ask for it? Why isn't EAA doing more to see that
> >>this fuel gets produced and made available?
> >
> Stealth Pilot wrote:
> >
> > that question is easy to answer.
> > since you appreciate the need you need to build a refinery to produce
> > it.
> > be the first and you'll be able to sell it to the other EAA members.
> > Stealth Pilot
>
> "82UL was developed several years ago, to be easily produced from
> automotive fuel. Instead of being produce by only one or two
> manufacturers as 100LL is, 82UL could be made by any oil company. This
> should make it cheaper to produce."


There was a discussion on this NG a week or two ago which suggested that, if
you removed the alcohol from typical blended automotive fuel, you would have
approximately 82 octane unleaded gasoline. If that assertion is true, then
all of the refineries which produce ethanol blended gasoline are already
producing 82UL in ample quantity. However, they may not currently be
loading it onto tankers and delivering it in that form.

As I say, this is outside my areas of expertise. But some of you probably
do know.

Peter