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June 2nd 06, 05:11 PM
I am looking for a files (airspace files) with published wave windows
on the west coast in GN II format. I would like somehow to create a
file which I can use in addition to my nav points. What I would like to
see on my iPAQ is a wave windows with its boundary lines and maybe some
shade of some sort light color within the window....or maybe someone
has a program which would create those files? I also have See You but I
don't know if creation of such a window is possible in that program.
Any thoughts out there or maybe some help is available?

Thanks,

Jacek Kobiesa
Washington State

Eric Greenwell
June 2nd 06, 06:56 PM
wrote:
> I am looking for a files (airspace files) with published wave windows
> on the west coast in GN II format. I would like somehow to create a
> file which I can use in addition to my nav points. What I would like to
> see on my iPAQ is a wave windows with its boundary lines and maybe some
> shade of some sort light color within the window....

I'm sending you the GN II (Newport-Peace) format files for the wave
windows in Washington and Oregon. It also includes the Mt. St Helens
TFR, the Umatilla Depot "Request.. " area, the Alvord Desert wave window
(only available during the July encampment), and a "warning" area for
the Davenport skydiver operation.

You should be able to use the file as-is in GN II and SeeYou. Let me
know if you have problems.

> or maybe someone
> has a program which would create those files?

These are just text files and easy to create, and the format should be
explained in your GN II instructions (it was in mine when I used the
program).

> I also have See You but I
> don't know if creation of such a window is possible in that program.
> Any thoughts out there or maybe some help is available?

You can't create airspace files in SeeYou, but you can use airspace
files created for GN II or WinPilot in SeeYou.

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Gary Emerson
June 2nd 06, 08:02 PM
If there are any computer savy folks out there, I'd think there would be
a market for a computer program that would allow airspace files to be
created graphically (lines, circles, connect the dots) and then have
altitudes assigned to them rather than having to create the files via
text. I know there is software that will pull up the MOAs, restricted
areas and generate those files automatically, but is there something for
a pilot who wants to draw a box around a local skydive operation, etc.
that he/she wants to highlight on their heads down display.


wrote:
> I am looking for a files (airspace files) with published wave windows
> on the west coast in GN II format. I would like somehow to create a
> file which I can use in addition to my nav points. What I would like to
> see on my iPAQ is a wave windows with its boundary lines and maybe some
> shade of some sort light color within the window....or maybe someone
> has a program which would create those files? I also have See You but I
> don't know if creation of such a window is possible in that program.
> Any thoughts out there or maybe some help is available?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jacek Kobiesa
> Washington State
>

Paul Remde
June 2nd 06, 11:30 PM
Hi Jacek,

I may have already sent this to you, but below is the file I created for
Minden, NV. It is extremely simple.

Tip: Note that the first and last point of each area are just slightly
different. That causes GN II to draw the lines, but not fill the area with
grey.

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com

# >> Minden Wave Window - Minden-West <<
INCLUDE=YES
TYPE=OTHER
TITLE=Minden-West Wave Window
BASE=FL180
TOPS=FL400
POINT=N390400 W1195700
POINT=N384200 W1195700
POINT=N384200 W1193800
POINT=N390400 W1194100
POINT=N390400 W1195701
#
# >> Minden Wave Window - Minden-Central <<
INCLUDE=YES
TYPE=OTHER
TITLE=Minden-Central Wave Window
BASE=FL180
TOPS=FL400
POINT=N384200 W1193800
POINT=N390400 W1194100
POINT=N390400 W1192800
POINT=N384200 W1192600
POINT=N384200 W1193801
#
# >> Minden Wave Window - Minden-East <<
INCLUDE=YES
TYPE=OTHER
TITLE=Minden-East Wave Window
BASE=FL180
TOPS=FL400
POINT=N384200 W1192600
POINT=N390400 W1192900
POINT=N390400 W1191000
POINT=N384200 W1190800
POINT=N384200 W1192601
#
END

> wrote in message
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>I am looking for a files (airspace files) with published wave windows
> on the west coast in GN II format. I would like somehow to create a
> file which I can use in addition to my nav points. What I would like to
> see on my iPAQ is a wave windows with its boundary lines and maybe some
> shade of some sort light color within the window....or maybe someone
> has a program which would create those files? I also have See You but I
> don't know if creation of such a window is possible in that program.
> Any thoughts out there or maybe some help is available?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jacek Kobiesa
> Washington State
>

Paul Remde
June 2nd 06, 11:33 PM
Hi,

I believe that StrePla allows you to edit airspace data.

It can also import DAFIF data and export airspace files in several formats.
I used it yesterday to create an SUA file for GNII for the Parowan, UT area.

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com

"Gary Emerson" > wrote in message
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> If there are any computer savy folks out there, I'd think there would be a
> market for a computer program that would allow airspace files to be
> created graphically (lines, circles, connect the dots) and then have
> altitudes assigned to them rather than having to create the files via
> text. I know there is software that will pull up the MOAs, restricted
> areas and generate those files automatically, but is there something for a
> pilot who wants to draw a box around a local skydive operation, etc. that
> he/she wants to highlight on their heads down display.
>
>
> wrote:
>> I am looking for a files (airspace files) with published wave windows
>> on the west coast in GN II format. I would like somehow to create a
>> file which I can use in addition to my nav points. What I would like to
>> see on my iPAQ is a wave windows with its boundary lines and maybe some
>> shade of some sort light color within the window....or maybe someone
>> has a program which would create those files? I also have See You but I
>> don't know if creation of such a window is possible in that program.
>> Any thoughts out there or maybe some help is available?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jacek Kobiesa
>> Washington State
>>

Gary Emerson
June 3rd 06, 02:55 AM
Paul Remde wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I believe that StrePla allows you to edit airspace data.
>
Paul,

if you are looking at a background map, is there a function where you
can say "I want a circle here" stretch to form a diameter and then
assign altitudes to the airspace?

Gary

Paul Remde
June 3rd 06, 04:24 AM
Hi Gary,

I don't think so. I'll look into it. I'm off to go flying for Sat. through
Monday so it will have to wait!

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde

"Gary Emerson" > wrote in message
om...
> Paul Remde wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I believe that StrePla allows you to edit airspace data.
>>
> Paul,
>
> if you are looking at a background map, is there a function where you can
> say "I want a circle here" stretch to form a diameter and then assign
> altitudes to the airspace?
>
> Gary

Eric Greenwell
June 3rd 06, 06:35 AM
Gary Emerson wrote:
> Paul Remde wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I believe that StrePla allows you to edit airspace data.
>>
> Paul,
>
> if you are looking at a background map, is there a function where you
> can say "I want a circle here" stretch to form a diameter and then
> assign altitudes to the airspace?

The Newport-Peace format is easy to use for things like circles and
polygons, and allows altitudes to be assigned. Just a text editor will
allow you to make simple airspace in a few minutes. It's not something
you need to do much of, or very often.


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Eric Greenwell
June 3rd 06, 04:56 PM
Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

>>> if you are looking at a background map, is there a function where you
>>> can say "I want a circle here" stretch to form a diameter and then
>>> assign altitudes to the airspace?
>> The Newport-Peace format is easy to use for things like circles and
>> polygons, and allows altitudes to be assigned. Just a text editor will
>> allow you to make simple airspace in a few minutes. It's not something
>> you need to do much of, or very often.
>>
>>
> For the benefit of anyone wanting to create airspace files, the
> definition of the format can be found at:
> http://www.spsys.demon.co.uk/software/USER.AIR

And if you need more examples, actual airspace files are available at

http://soaring.aerobatics.ws/SUA/NA.html

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