Things to do as a private pilot ?

[[email protected]]

Since my family is not thrilled by the idea of flying in a small plane,
and I get bored flying solo, I am wondering what other venues there are
for a (VFR) pilot to fly people around. Basically I am looking for
excuses to do scenic flights within a 100 NM radius of San Diego.
CAP and Angel Flights sound rather stressful. Does
pilotsharetheride.com have a good reputation? Any other ideas ?

[Jim Macklin]

Nice spam!

Get a girl friend.


> wrote in message
ps.com...
| Since my family is not thrilled by the idea of flying in a
small plane,
| and I get bored flying solo, I am wondering what other
venues there are
| for a (VFR) pilot to fly people around. Basically I am
looking for
| excuses to do scenic flights within a 100 NM radius of San
Diego.
| CAP and Angel Flights sound rather stressful. Does
| pilotsharetheride.com have a good reputation? Any other
ideas ?
|

[Kingfish]

If I can find out where Skylune lives in NH I'll give ya his address so
you can buzz him. He loves the attention.

wrote:
> Since my family is not thrilled by the idea of flying in a small plane,
> and I get bored flying solo, I am wondering what other venues there are
> for a (VFR) pilot to fly people around. Basically I am looking for
> excuses to do scenic flights within a 100 NM radius of San Diego.
> CAP and Angel Flights sound rather stressful. Does
> pilotsharetheride.com have a good reputation? Any other ideas ?

[The Visitor]

Meet up with other pilots on the weekend and fly to some restaurant
together. It seems popular.

John

wrote:
> Since my family is not thrilled by the idea of flying in a small plane,
> and I get bored flying solo, I am wondering what other venues there are
> for a (VFR) pilot to fly people around. Basically I am looking for
> excuses to do scenic flights within a 100 NM radius of San Diego.
> CAP and Angel Flights sound rather stressful. Does
> pilotsharetheride.com have a good reputation? Any other ideas ?
>

[john smith]

In article >,
B A R R Y > wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:17:54 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
> > wrote:
>
> >Nice spam!
> >Get a girl friend.

> A hot chick that'll fly will surely get your wife interested in
> flying!

In the majority of aviation accidents with a man and woman on board, the
two are not married to each other.

[Montblack]

("Jim Macklin" wrote)
> Nice spam!

I got some posing history for "grubertm" in rec.aviation. I'm going with
....Not Spam.

http://www.pilotsharetheride.com/

I want to know if people have used it - or know of someone who's used it? I
really like the idea. It's been around for a while now. ANYONE??

> Get a girl friend.

Well, yes. That too. :-)


Montblack

[[email protected]]

Join the EAA and give some young eagles a ride. The more kids we get
addicted to our fun the better chances of it existing in the future.
The smiles on their faces as the get out of the plane after their first
flight is " PRICELESS"....

Ben
www.haaspowerair.com

The Visitor wrote:
> Meet up with other pilots on the weekend and fly to some restaurant
> together. It seems popular.
>
> John
>
> wrote:
> > Since my family is not thrilled by the idea of flying in a small plane,
> > and I get bored flying solo, I am wondering what other venues there are
> > for a (VFR) pilot to fly people around. Basically I am looking for
> > excuses to do scenic flights within a 100 NM radius of San Diego.
> > CAP and Angel Flights sound rather stressful. Does
> > pilotsharetheride.com have a good reputation? Any other ideas ?
> >

[Jim Macklin]

Are they dressed?


"john smith" > wrote in message
...
| In article >,
| B A R R Y > wrote:
|
| > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:17:54 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| > > wrote:
| >
| > >Nice spam!
| > >Get a girl friend.
|
| > A hot chick that'll fly will surely get your wife
interested in
| > flying!
|
| In the majority of aviation accidents with a man and woman
on board, the
| two are not married to each other.

[Bela P. Havasreti]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:38:42 -0500, "Jim Macklin" <p5
> wrote:

I know of at least one crash where they were not....
(buddy of mine used to be an accident investigator for
a major piston GA aircraft engine manufacturer).

Bela P. Havasreti

>Are they dressed?
>
>
>"john smith" > wrote in message
...
>| In article >,
>| B A R R Y > wrote:
>|
>| > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:17:54 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
>| > > wrote:
>| >
>| > >Nice spam!
>| > >Get a girl friend.
>|
>| > A hot chick that'll fly will surely get your wife
>interested in
>| > flying!
>|
>| In the majority of aviation accidents with a man and woman
>on board, the
>| two are not married to each other.
>

[Jim Macklin]

I remember reading about a 99s air race and the writer was
telling about her emergency landing and she had to get
dressed in the cockpit. She had been sunbathing under the
bubble canopy when the engine began to run rough.

I've heard of dual cross-countries that got weathered in out
of town, seems to happen with 36 year old CFIs (male) and 20
something female students.

That always seemed to be unethical.



"Bela P. Havasreti" > wrote in
message ...
| On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:38:42 -0500, "Jim Macklin" <p5
| > wrote:
|
| I know of at least one crash where they were not....
| (buddy of mine used to be an accident investigator for
| a major piston GA aircraft engine manufacturer).
|
| Bela P. Havasreti
|
| >Are they dressed?
| >
| >
| >"john smith" > wrote in message
|
...
| >| In article
>,
| >| B A R R Y > wrote:
| >|
| >| > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:17:54 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| >| > > wrote:
| >| >
| >| > >Nice spam!
| >| > >Get a girl friend.
| >|
| >| > A hot chick that'll fly will surely get your wife
| >interested in
| >| > flying!
| >|
| >| In the majority of aviation accidents with a man and
woman
| >on board, the
| >| two are not married to each other.
| >
|

[Dylan Smith]

On 2006-06-16, > wrote:
> Since my family is not thrilled by the idea of flying in a small plane,
> and I get bored flying solo

Have you considered giving soaring a go? If you're not going anywhere
and going to be VFR, you may find soaring (solo) to be something a lot
more interesting than boring (pun intended) holes in the sky in a power
plane. You also live in an area with good sources of lift.

--
Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid.
Oolite-Linux: an Elite tribute: http://oolite-linux.berlios.de

[Matt Barrow]

"B A R R Y" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:58:48 GMT, Bela P. Havasreti
> > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:38:42 -0500, "Jim Macklin" <p5
> wrote:
>>
>>I know of at least one crash where they were not....
>
> I used to have an NTSB link for a crash involving partially dressed
> occupants.
>
> I think it was a Cherokee, and the seats were reclined. <G>

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X18632&key=1

Probable cause: Severe distraction :~)

[Montblack]

("Matt Barrow" wrote)
>> I think it was a Cherokee, and the seats were reclined. <G>

> http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X18632&key=1
>
> Probable cause: Severe distraction :~)


"They died doing something they loved."

"I thought you were going to be on top this time?
"I was ....uh-oh!"


Montblack

[Kingfish]

B A R R Y wrote:
>
> I was heading to Nashua (KASH) this week, and I go to Keene and
> Laconia on a regular basis. I'll offer him a ride! <G>
>
> Skylune - email me directly if you're interested!

That'll get you banned from RAP <G>

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "Kingfish" > said:
>B A R R Y wrote:
>> I was heading to Nashua (KASH) this week, and I go to Keene and
>> Laconia on a regular basis. I'll offer him a ride! <G>
>>
>> Skylune - email me directly if you're interested!
>
>That'll get you banned from RAP <G>

Not if he kicks Skylune out of the plane at 10,000 feet.


--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Recursion: n., see Recursion.

[Steve Rubin]

In article m>,
> wrote:
>Since my family is not thrilled by the idea of flying in a small plane,
>and I get bored flying solo, I am wondering what other venues there are
>for a (VFR) pilot to fly people around. Basically I am looking for
>excuses to do scenic flights within a 100 NM radius of San Diego.
>CAP and Angel Flights sound rather stressful. Does
>pilotsharetheride.com have a good reputation? Any other ideas ?

AngelFlight is a great thing to do. Not stressful at all!
--
Steve Rubin / AE6CH / http://www.altdb.net/
Email: / N6441C / http://www.tch.org/~ser/
"Why don't you mind your own business?" -- John Navas 01/04/05
"If you don't like it, keep it to yourself" -- John Navas 01/04/05

[Kingfish]

Dammit, Paul... you just revealed the plan!! I'd guess he'd take
longer to fall 10,000 feet, as I've heard libertarians are full of hot
air <G>

Paul Tomblin wrote:
> Not if he kicks Skylune out of the plane at 10,000 feet.
>

[steve]

I got my private license when I was living in Hawaii, and worked on a
snorkel/scuba charter boat. I would meet tourists and offer to take them
sightseeing if they shared the cost of the rental with me. Picked up about
30 hours doing that, and it was fun!


> wrote in message
ps.com...
> Since my family is not thrilled by the idea of flying in a small plane,
> and I get bored flying solo, I am wondering what other venues there are
> for a (VFR) pilot to fly people around. Basically I am looking for
> excuses to do scenic flights within a 100 NM radius of San Diego.
> CAP and Angel Flights sound rather stressful. Does
> pilotsharetheride.com have a good reputation? Any other ideas ?
>

[Jose]

> I would meet tourists and offer to take them
> sightseeing if they shared the cost of the rental with me. Picked up about
> 30 hours doing that, and it was fun!

That used to be legal. Is it still?

Jose
--
The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[[email protected]]

wrote:
> Since my family is not thrilled by the idea of flying in a small plane,
> and I get bored flying solo, I am wondering what other venues there are
> for a (VFR) pilot to fly people around. Basically I am looking for
> excuses to do scenic flights within a 100 NM radius of San Diego.
> CAP and Angel Flights sound rather stressful. Does
> pilotsharetheride.com have a good reputation? Any other ideas ?

To add to the previous poster who suggested soaring, I'd add that aside
from making every flight interesting a) it's a lot cheaper than power
on a per hour basis (no fuel, etc.) and b) every pilot I know who is
both power and glider rated states that learning to fly gliders makes
you a safer, better pilot. If you want to find a glider operation in
your area, go to www.ssa.org and click on "Find Where to Fly" on the
RHS. Or the link to that page is

http://www.ssa.org/sport/wheretofly.asp

It looks like Sky Sailing in Warner Springs might be a good bet.

I fly a motor glider out of Hayward, across the Bay from SFO and have
marveled at how even local soaring (mostly winter and spring time) can
be amazing fun. One time there was lift just over the East Bay Hills
and cloud bases were low so I couldn't get enough altitude to hop from
one cloud to the next without using the engine. But hanging out 5-10
miles from my home base for an hour an a half was anything but boring
as I had to constantly search for lift (it moves around), center myself
in it, etc. And, when I could relax for a few minutes, the view of the
SF skyline, the bridges, the Bay, and more were just fantastic. I
commented afterward to my copilot that a similar flight in a power
plane would have seemed pointless, but this was great fun.

[gatt]

"Bela P. Havasreti" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:38:42 -0500, "Jim Macklin" <p5
> > wrote:
>
> I know of at least one crash where they were not....
> (buddy of mine used to be an accident investigator for
> a major piston GA aircraft engine manufacturer).
>
> Bela P. Havasreti

Many years ago an old family friend's husband piled into the side of a
mountain in Alaska with a planeload of cheerleaders who had apparently
distracted him. Never met him; doesn't seem like my kind of character, but
the saying "Way to go, man," is both in/appropriate.

-chris

[gatt]

"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...

> http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X18632&key=1
>
> Probable cause: Severe distraction :~)

I think that should be a new "phrase" around kids.

"Honey, let's go Simulate some Instrument Flight! *nudge*"

-c
"Okay, but don't even THINK of shooting missed approaches!"

[gatt]

"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...

>>That'll get you banned from RAP <G>
>
> Not if he kicks Skylune out of the plane at 10,000 feet.

"He wasn't pushed out. I told him he should try wingwalking sometime and so
he did. Damn those highwings!"

-c

[gatt]

"steve" > wrote in message
...
>I got my private license when I was living in Hawaii, and worked on a
>snorkel/scuba charter boat. I would meet tourists and offer to take them
>sightseeing if they shared the cost of the rental with me. Picked up about
>30 hours doing that, and it was fun!

Isn't taking scuba divers flying sort of dangerous?

-c

[Larry Dighera]

On 15 Jun 2006 18:02:57 -0700, wrote in
m>::

>Since my family is not thrilled by the idea of flying in a small plane,

What is the source of their disenchantment with flight? Fear? Lack
of interest? ?

>and I get bored flying solo,

Is that because you have no mission? What sort of activities do you
enjoy?

>I am wondering what other venues there are
>for a (VFR) pilot to fly people around. Basically I am looking for
>excuses to do scenic flights within a 100 NM radius of San Diego.

Here are some ideas. Scout them out solo first, so you'll know what
each has to offer your passengers. When you get home, you can regale
the family with your adventures.

Take a trip to the Robert Pond Palm Springs Air Museum (760-778-6262)
on Palm Springs Airport (KPSP); all the aircraft are in mint
condition!

A little further north is the General Patton Museum at Chiriaco Summit
Airport (L77): http://www.airnav.com/airport/L77 . Beyond that lie
the ghostly remains of the WW-II Desert Training Center divisional
campsites and aerodromes still remarkably evident on the desert floor
along the way to Laughlin/Bullhead International Airport (KIFP) and Mc
Carran International Airport (KLAS). There's lots of fun there.

If you leave early in the morning and beat the heat, you can easily
enjoy the day on the Colorado River and in the Casinos, and make it
home before dark. Tell them about the wonderful time you had, and
then see if your family becomes a little more interested in your magic
carpet.

>CAP and Angel Flights sound rather stressful.

Civil Air Patrol is good for those interested in military discipline.
>Does pilotsharetheride.com have a good reputation?

The creator of PilotShareTheRide.com assures me that he has the
blessing of AOPA, and FSDO.

>Any other ideas ?

There is a sky trail around Borrego Springs. Agua Caliente Airport
(L54) has hot pools for swimming and soaking within walking distance
of the airport. There's a small air museum on Montgomery Field
Airport (KMYF) if memory serves. Don't overlook the Planes of Fame
Air Museum at Chino Airport (KCNO): http://www.planesoffame.org/

Hop over to Warner Springs Great Circle Gliderport (CL35) for an
introductory flight. Perris Valley Airport (L65) is the busiest
paracenter in the nation. You can spend hours watching the sky
divers. Check out Giant Rock near Yucca Valley Airport (L22).

Plan a mission. Fly it. Relate your experiences to family and
friends; you should find them warming to the idea of accompanying you
on your next air adventure. Don't forget to post your trip reports to
Usenet.

[Dave]

Ummm.. understanding the situation, not understanding the problem....

?


Dave


On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 01:29:50 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
> wrote:

>
>I've heard of dual cross-countries that got weathered in out
>of town, seems to happen with 36 year old CFIs (male) and 20
>something female students.
>
>That always seemed to be unethical.
>
>
>

[Jake Brodsky]

gatt wrote:
> Isn't taking scuba divers flying sort of dangerous?

It can be, depending on how much diving they did, what the depth
profiles were, what air tank mixes they used (if different from normal),
and how long they waited before climbing in to the airplane. It also
depends on how high you fly.

The general FAA suggestion from the AIM in 8-1-2 Section d item 2 is

"2. The recommended waiting time before going to flight altitudes of up
to 8,000 feet is at least 12 hours after diving which has not required
controlled ascent (nondecompression stop diving), and at least 24 hours
after diving which has required controlled ascent (decompression stop
diving). The waiting time before going to flight altitudes above 8,000
feet should be at least 24 hours after any SCUBA dive. These recommended
altitudes are actual flight altitudes above mean sea level (AMSL) and
not pressurized cabin altitudes. This takes into consideration the risk
of decompression of the aircraft during flight. "

These are very general recommendations. A SCUBA diver proficient in
high altitude lake diving may have better knowledge about the risks they
are taking.

[Jake Brodsky]

wrote:
> Since my family is not thrilled by the idea of flying in a small plane,
> and I get bored flying solo, I am wondering what other venues there are
> for a (VFR) pilot to fly people around. Basically I am looking for
> excuses to do scenic flights within a 100 NM radius of San Diego.
> CAP and Angel Flights sound rather stressful. Does
> pilotsharetheride.com have a good reputation? Any other ideas ?

If you know any kids from age 8 to about 14, invite them and one or both
parents. It can be lots of fun to share. I speak from experience.

We can use all the good PR we can get.

[Timmay]

I may be way off, since I have never done it, but how stressful can
angel flights be?

[Jake Brodsky]

Timmay wrote:
> I may be way off, since I have never done it, but how stressful can
> angel flights be?

I dunno. But I figure that it would be less stressful than taking a
healthy kid and parent up...

[Jon]

I joined pilotsharetheride.com. I have been up once with a local pilot I met
through it. I don't see it as a reputation problem. I don't get spam through
it or anything like that. Pilots share information and you can look up other
local pilots that just want to go up and share the expense.

One recommendation I would make is when you first meet the other pilot that
you show each other your logbooks this way you know what kind of experience
each have. You are meeting someone for the first time and they can say they
have a couple of hundred hours but really low landing counts. Also, this may
not be a long time pilot or CFI you go up with and they may not know the
airport that you plan to go up in so you need to work closely together with
planning. Try to meet the other pilot for the first time before you go up
with them too if you don't them well.

-Jonathan

> wrote in message
ps.com...
> Since my family is not thrilled by the idea of flying in a small plane,
> and I get bored flying solo, I am wondering what other venues there are
> for a (VFR) pilot to fly people around. Basically I am looking for
> excuses to do scenic flights within a 100 NM radius of San Diego.
> CAP and Angel Flights sound rather stressful. Does
> pilotsharetheride.com have a good reputation? Any other ideas ?
>

[Skylune]

by (Paul Tomblin) Jun 16, 2006 at 04:38 PM


In a previous article, "Kingfish" > said:
>B A R R Y wrote:
>> I was heading to Nashua (KASH) this week, and I go to Keene and
>> Laconia on a regular basis. I'll offer him a ride! <G>
>>
>> Skylune - email me directly if you're interested!
>
>That'll get you banned from RAP <G>

Not if he kicks Skylune out of the plane at 10,000 feet

<<

Sheesh. When I'm not even around to defend myself. ;-)

Wouldn't that violate an FAR? Oh yeah, I forgot that they are not
enforced.

[B A R R Y]

Skylune wrote:
>
> Sheesh. When I'm not even around to defend myself. ;-)
>
> Wouldn't that violate an FAR?


What? To offer you a ride? =8^)

Remember, it wasn't my idea to kick you out, only to offer a free
sightseeing ride.

[Skylune]

by B A R R Y > Jun 19, 2006 at 02:32 PM


Skylune wrote:
>
> Sheesh. When I'm not even around to defend myself. ;-)
>
> Wouldn't that violate an FAR?


What? To offer you a ride? =8^)

Remember, it wasn't my idea to kick you out, only to offer a free
sightseeing ride

<<

Sorry Barry. I should have responded to the other poster who wanted to
toss me out of his plane. ;-).

Thanx for offer, but I have been up often enough to know what the world
looks like from a few thousand feet up.

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "Skylune" > said:
>by (Paul Tomblin) Jun 16, 2006 at 04:38 PM
>In a previous article, "Kingfish" > said:
>>B A R R Y wrote:
>>> I was heading to Nashua (KASH) this week, and I go to Keene and
>>> Laconia on a regular basis. I'll offer him a ride! <G>
>>>
>>> Skylune - email me directly if you're interested!
>>
>>That'll get you banned from RAP <G>
>
>Not if he kicks Skylune out of the plane at 10,000 feet
>
><<
>
>Sheesh. When I'm not even around to defend myself. ;-)
>
>Wouldn't that violate an FAR? Oh yeah, I forgot that they are not
>enforced.

The FARs allow throwing objects out the plane as long as you take care not
to hurt anybody on the ground.


--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
I've long believed that a large amount of our current technology was invented
by SF writers, and remained fiction until some geek read it and thought "I
know how to build that". -- Andrew Dalgleish

[jmk]

Timmay wrote:
> I may be way off, since I have never done it, but how stressful can
> angel flights be?

Only as stressful typically as the pilot makes it (and no, I am not
talking about his/her piloting skills <G>).

New AF pilots put the stress on themselves. They feel pressure to make
a flight because "the patient is counting on me." They worry about
EVERYTHING. Most of all, I've found, they worry about interacting with
the patient. They envision:

Pilot: Good morning.
Passenger: What's so good about it... I'm dying!

Pilot: Have a nice day.
Passenger: If I live that long.

That's why "blood runs" (flights to deliver unprocessed blood to the
blood banks) is so popular with newbie AF pilots - no small talk
required. <G>

The truth is, all that pressure is strictly self-imposed. The
passengers know that any flight, even commercial, may be canceled or
delayed with weather or equipment problems. And as for their
"condition" - frankly, I've never met a patient who wasn't a LOT more
comfortable with their medical condition than the pilot was.

After the first flight or two, the pilot learns to relax, enjoy the
flight, and enjoy the company of a passenger who often has lots of
interesting stories to tell.

James Knox
AF-SC

[Skylune]

by (Paul Tomblin) Jun 19, 2006 at 02:50 PM



The FARs allow throwing objects out the plane as long as you take care
not
to hurt anybody on the ground.

<<

Uh, ok. Perhaps this is something the AOPA is attempting to have changed?
That way, if parts start to fly off old planes, there will be no
violation? Its part of their attack on the FAA proposed study of
airworthiness of old planes (complete coverage in av news, with EAA
disagreeing with The Destroyer, btw....)?

[Kingfish]

Skylune wrote:
>
> Uh, ok. Perhaps this is something the AOPA is attempting to have changed?
> That way, if parts start to fly off old planes, there will be no
> violation? Its part of their attack on the FAA proposed study of
> airworthiness of old planes (complete coverage in av news, with EAA
> disagreeing with The Destroyer, btw....)?

Ya know Loon, even if you don't agree with every position an
association takes on an issue, if they advocate for you, you're almost
obliged to support them. As a firearms owner I don't agree with every
position the NRA takes, but nobody else is sticking up for my right to
continue to own guns. Same reasoning applies to AOPA.

BTW, if you're greatly concerned about airworthiness of old planes,
(and parts falling off) I hope you didn't fly NWA out to California.
Their DC-9 fleet was mostly built in the late 60's ; )

[Skylune]

by "Kingfish" > Jun 19, 2006 at 11:32 AM



Ya know Loon, even if you don't agree with every position an
association takes on an issue, if they advocate for you, you're almost
obliged to support them. As a firearms owner I don't agree with every
position the NRA takes, but nobody else is sticking up for my right to
continue to own guns. Same reasoning applies to AOPA.


<<

I and my Mossberg do not belong to the NRA. I think they are extremists,
and I feel no obligation to have them advocate on my behalf. But at least
they don't try to extort tax money like the "NRA of the Sky" does.

And no, I don't worry about stuff falling off of planes (small or
commercial -- like the gross blue ice.) I just list it as one of the
myriad things that AOPA is "opposing, taking on, standing up to...."

[Skylune]

by "Kingfish" > Jun 19, 2006 at 11:32 AM



Oh, I flew American to LA LA Land. Nice flight. I flew NW from MHT to
Detoit about a month ago (stayed in Dearborn at an awesome hotel near the
Ford HQ). Not a bad flight, but the plane definitely looked worn.....
(And they no longer let you tune in to ATC on the headset: I usually
enjoy that...)

[Kingfish]

Skylune wrote:
>> I and my Mossberg do not belong to the NRA. I think they are extremists,
>> and I feel no obligation to have them advocate on my behalf.

But you're OK with them protecting your right to own a shotgun.


>>But at least they don't try to extort tax money like the "NRA of the Sky" does.

Very clever. This "extortion" is nothing compared to the tax subsidies
given to big oil. (Which more directly affects your life) Why aren't
you jumping up and down and foaming at the mouth over this the way you
do over AOPA?

[B A R R Y]

Skylune wrote:

> (And they no longer let you tune in to ATC on the headset: I usually
> enjoy that...)

Hey, I allow that! <G>

[[email protected]]

> The FARs allow throwing objects out the plane as long as you take care not
> to hurt anybody on the ground.
>
Hmm, difficult this one.
Skylune is on the ground when he gets hurt.

-Kees.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>> The FARs allow throwing objects out the plane as long as you take care
>> not
>> to hurt anybody on the ground.
>>
> Hmm, difficult this one.
> Skylune is on the ground when he gets hurt.
>
> -Kees.
>

How about just throwing Skylune out of the plane?

[[email protected]]

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> >> The FARs allow throwing objects out the plane as long as you take care
> >> not
> >> to hurt anybody on the ground.
> >>
> > Hmm, difficult this one.
> > Skylune is on the ground when he gets hurt.
> >
> > -Kees.
> >
>
> How about just throwing Skylune out of the plane?

Thats what I mean, some FAR says you can not throw something out of a
plane when somebody got hurt on the ground.
Where do you think Skylune ends up and how he will feel when is back on
the ground.
On the other hand, the FAR says hurt on the ground, not in the ground.
So dropping him over a soft patch will solve that problem.

-Kees.

PS. I do not have any problem with mister Lune, just offering advise.

[Skylune]

by "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> Jun 20, 2006 at 08:34 AM



How about just throwing Skylune out of the plane?

<<

That's very original of you, Gig. Take a long time thinking that one up?

[Gig 601XL Builder]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> >
>> >> The FARs allow throwing objects out the plane as long as you take care
>> >> not
>> >> to hurt anybody on the ground.
>> >>
>> > Hmm, difficult this one.
>> > Skylune is on the ground when he gets hurt.
>> >
>> > -Kees.
>> >
>>
>> How about just throwing Skylune out of the plane?
>
> Thats what I mean, some FAR says you can not throw something out of a
> plane when somebody got hurt on the ground.
> Where do you think Skylune ends up and how he will feel when is back on
> the ground.
> On the other hand, the FAR says hurt on the ground, not in the ground.
> So dropping him over a soft patch will solve that problem.
>
> -Kees.
>
> PS. I do not have any problem with mister Lune, just offering advise.
>

Well if we hit him in the head with a hammer BEFORE we throw him out we
should be ok.

[Skylune]

by B A R R Y > Jun 20, 2006 at 11:25 AM


Skylune wrote:

> (And they no longer let you tune in to ATC on the headset: I usually
> enjoy that...)

Hey, I allow that! <G>

<<

But, does your spare headset have a parachute option?? I think I would
need one that does. ;-)

[B A R R Y]

Skylune wrote:
>
>
> But, does your spare headset have a parachute option?? I think I would
> need one that does. ;-)
>


It's got a long cable...

[Morgans]

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote

> Well if we hit him in the head with a hammer BEFORE we throw him out we
> should be ok.

How about we throw him out of a pusher?
--
Jim in NC