Interesting helocopter film

[Greasy Rider @ invalid.com]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1666163808985000437

[Jim]

WOW

<Greasy Rider @ invalid.com> wrote in message
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> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1666163808985000437

[Darrell A. Larose]

(Greasy Rider @ invalid.com) writes:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1666163808985000437

Helicopters aren't suppose to do that ;)

[Charlie Wolf]

On 7 Jul 2006 04:01:27 GMT, (Darrell A.
Larose) wrote:

> (Greasy Rider @ invalid.com) writes:
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1666163808985000437
>
>Helicopters aren't suppose to do that ;)
I knew that model helicopters can do those things, but I thought it
was outside the realm of full size aircraft.

For all you rotor-heads out there ----
Does this have something to do with a rigid rotor head assembly on the
bird?
Regards,

>

[Charlie Wolf]

On 7 Jul 2006 08:59:56 -0700, "Gordon" > wrote:

>
>Charlie Wolf wrote:
>> On 7 Jul 2006 04:01:27 GMT, (Darrell A.
>> Larose) wrote:
>>
>> > (Greasy Rider @ invalid.com) writes:
>> >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1666163808985000437
>> >
>> >Helicopters aren't suppose to do that ;)
>> I knew that model helicopters can do those things, but I thought it
>> was outside the realm of full size aircraft.
>>
>> For all you rotor-heads out there ----
>> Does this have something to do with a rigid rotor head assembly on the
>> bird?
>> Regards,
>
>Since no one else has chimed in...
>
>Yes, its a capability that a rigid rotor system can provide. The 105
>and 117 can both do these tricks and several other types can as well,
>but very few pilots actually try it. If you go into one of the
>manuevers and get it a little wrong, you lose blades and ultimately,
>the maint officer gets upset at all the extra paperwork. Many of
>todays gunships can do acrobatics similar to what the film shows,
>however there are few situations where it would be helpful for the helo
>to dance around like this in combat. Its visually stimulating but
>that's about it.
>
>Go ahead, ask - would I go for a ride with a pilot doing this?
>
>Faaaaaaaaaaaaaq no! Heloes are plenty dangerous enough, just sitting
>on the flightline waiting to kill their crews as it is. Why stick your
>head in a croc's mouth and nudge it in the balls?
>
>v/r
>Gordon
Well put. I always felt helicopter flight was a bit of an unnatural
act.
Regards,

[Joe Delphi]

"Charlie Wolf" > wrote in message
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> Well put. I always felt helicopter flight was a bit of an unnatural
> act.
> Regards,
>
>

Definition of a helicopter: A set of spare parts flying in formation.

JD

[Zuben]

The clip only reinforces the old adage that helicopters only fly because
they are so ugly the Earth repels them

Jake

PS I am the first to admit the prettiest site I ever saw was a helo hovering
over me in the North Irish Sea.

"Joe Delphi" > wrote in message
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> "Charlie Wolf" > wrote in message
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>
>> Well put. I always felt helicopter flight was a bit of an unnatural
>> act.
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>
> Definition of a helicopter: A set of spare parts flying in formation.
>
> JD
>

[Gordon[_1_]]

Zuben wrote:
> The clip only reinforces the old adage that helicopters only fly because
> they are so ugly the Earth repels them


Its so much more than that - the things are like sports cars that will
immediately crash the moment you take your hands off the steering
wheel. Let go of a control column in any aircraft, and it will
continue to fly, waiting for your next input. Let go of the 'one man
band' collection of controls in most heloes and it begins its search
for the closest bit of terrain.

>
> PS I am the first to admit the prettiest site I ever saw was a helo hovering
> over me in the North Irish Sea.

There is that. :)

v/r
Gordon
Seasprites forever!

[JP]

"Charlie Wolf" > wrote in message
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> On 7 Jul 2006 04:01:27 GMT, (Darrell A.
> Larose) wrote:
>
>> (Greasy Rider @ invalid.com) writes:
>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1666163808985000437
>>
>>Helicopters aren't suppose to do that ;)
> I knew that model helicopters can do those things, but I thought it
> was outside the realm of full size aircraft.
>
> For all you rotor-heads out there ----
> Does this have something to do with a rigid rotor head assembly on the
> bird?
> Regards,
>
>>
>
Local Mercy Flight ?

At Dak To a Pink Panther came in with a wounded gunner.
I looked and thought he was Ok, I seen the *exit wound out of the top of his
thigh, small hole no big deal after I opened the canopy and we took him
down.

Later I see half his butt was shot off, the exit was an entrance ! They
where
flying the Cobra inverted and took a round !

Now that can't be done right ?

[Dave in San Diego]

"JP" > wrote in
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> "Charlie Wolf" > wrote in message
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>> On 7 Jul 2006 04:01:27 GMT, (Darrell A.
>> Larose) wrote:
>>
>>> (Greasy Rider @ invalid.com) writes:
>>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1666163808985000437
>>>
>>>Helicopters aren't suppose to do that ;)
>> I knew that model helicopters can do those things, but I thought it
>> was outside the realm of full size aircraft.
>>
>> For all you rotor-heads out there ----
>> Does this have something to do with a rigid rotor head assembly on the
>> bird?
>> Regards,
>>
>>>
>>
> Local Mercy Flight ?
>
> At Dak To a Pink Panther came in with a wounded gunner.
> I looked and thought he was Ok, I seen the *exit wound out of the top of
> his thigh, small hole no big deal after I opened the canopy and we took
> him down.
>
> Later I see half his butt was shot off, the exit was an entrance ! They
> where
> flying the Cobra inverted and took a round !
>
> Now that can't be done right ?

Sorta wrong. H-1s (and perhaps other helos) can do barrel rolls, where
there is always positive rotor loading. Not for the faint of heart or short
of skill, since it's fairly easy to screw it up and fall out of the sky.

Dave in San Diego
HS bud flew Snakes and Slicks

[JP]

"Dave in San Diego" > wrote in message
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> "JP" > wrote in
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>> "Charlie Wolf" > wrote in message
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>>> On 7 Jul 2006 04:01:27 GMT, (Darrell A.
>>> Larose) wrote:
>>>
>>>> (Greasy Rider @ invalid.com) writes:
>>>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1666163808985000437
>>>>
>>>>Helicopters aren't suppose to do that ;)
>>> I knew that model helicopters can do those things, but I thought it
>>> was outside the realm of full size aircraft.
>>>
>>> For all you rotor-heads out there ----
>>> Does this have something to do with a rigid rotor head assembly on the
>>> bird?
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> Local Mercy Flight ?
>>
>> At Dak To a Pink Panther came in with a wounded gunner.
>> I looked and thought he was Ok, I seen the *exit wound out of the top of
>> his thigh, small hole no big deal after I opened the canopy and we took
>> him down.
>>
>> Later I see half his butt was shot off, the exit was an entrance ! They
>> where
>> flying the Cobra inverted and took a round !
>>
>> Now that can't be done right ?
>
> Sorta wrong. H-1s (and perhaps other helos) can do barrel rolls, where
> there is always positive rotor loading. Not for the faint of heart or
> short
> of skill, since it's fairly easy to screw it up and fall out of the sky.
>
> Dave in San Diego
> HS bud flew Snakes and Slicks

I know they did, after all I seen his wound, but many would say no you
can't.
I *think its a Pink Panther also in Kline's painting, it was shot in half
yet made a perfect landing. A SAM or B-40 hit it. The tail was knocked off.
Another impossible feat.